Please explain to me how this evidence is not circumstantial?
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President's lawyers may offer Mueller a meeting with Trump
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Please explain to me how this evidence is not circumstantial?
RandomSeed
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His lawyers are secretly time traveling liberal globalists, fighting to save the future.
LOL, nah they dum
LOL, nah they dum
His lawyers are either
1) Incredibly stupid
2) Know Trump is fucked, but can't convince Trump that he's screwed so they're sending Trump out to metaphorically die
KernelPanic
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LoganNotABoganYouKnowIt!!
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There was the idea Trump wanted to make Comey seem compromised; maybe if he met with Mueller he would pretend they were buddy-buddy, then because of that say that people on both sides dislike him and fire him. Yep.
Epsilon-delta
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I assume Mueller will not fall for the bait.
Beer Monkey
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Yep. Mueller will say no, and smartly.
Shadow Puppetry
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Meanwhile, Dotard throws a hissy fit over the Iran deal.
President Trump reportedly "threw a fit in mid-July as his top advisers made their case to stick with the Obama-era Iran nuclear deal.
He threw a fit, one source familiar with the meeting told The Washington Post in a report published Wednesday.
The president was angry he was being compelled by Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, Defense Secretary James Mattis and others to certify Iran's compliance with the 2015 nuclear deal that he viewed as a disaster, according to the Post.
He was furious. Really furious. Its clear he felt jammed.
Trump did not believe their arguments for staying in it, dismissing arguments that Iran was upholding its part of the deal or that the agreement meant a sense a stability for U.S. national security interests, according to the report, which cited seven anonymous sources.
His advisers, including national security adviser H.R. McMaster, reportedly decided to push Trump toward compromise, instead of completely killing it.
President Trump reportedly "threw a fit in mid-July as his top advisers made their case to stick with the Obama-era Iran nuclear deal.
He threw a fit, one source familiar with the meeting told The Washington Post in a report published Wednesday.
The president was angry he was being compelled by Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, Defense Secretary James Mattis and others to certify Iran's compliance with the 2015 nuclear deal that he viewed as a disaster, according to the Post.
He was furious. Really furious. Its clear he felt jammed.
Trump did not believe their arguments for staying in it, dismissing arguments that Iran was upholding its part of the deal or that the agreement meant a sense a stability for U.S. national security interests, according to the report, which cited seven anonymous sources.
His advisers, including national security adviser H.R. McMaster, reportedly decided to push Trump toward compromise, instead of completely killing it.
BobTheFork
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FFS, They seem to be doing this to calm the POTUS down or shut him up.
They really expect Trump to be told 'all of this has nothing to do with you I swear'
They really expect Trump to be told 'all of this has nothing to do with you I swear'
Robdraggoo
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Are his lawets trying to play chess with bobby fisher? Or do they actually think hes innocent
Transistor
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For some reason I just had a flash of the "I had sex with my wife" quote from Gob in Arrested Development during his divorce scene
I H8 Memes
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Donald Trump the kind of guy who would be his own lawyer and call himself to the stand.
Officerrob
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Not happening
Sho_Nuff82
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How much do you want to bet that Mueller has better sources than the Washington Post though
Forgotten_Taco
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He really does have shittiest of attorneys.
TheRagnCajun
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That makes sense. I thought they might also try and steer Mueller onto other people in an effort to make the investigation take more time and waste Mueller's resources. Or they want to try and find out what Mueller knows. But this idea of trying to get an early interview makes sense so that they can decline a later one.
PandaShake
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Oh, that makes sense. Im learning so much about the government, titles of positisions and who holds the seats, and investigation tactics this past year than I ever had.
"You didn't try to bribe this fucking special investigator, did you?"
Dude even looks like a young Robert Mueller in that shot.
Perfection.
I don't know why people are blaming the lawyers. Do you really think this is what they advised, or do you think it's what Trump said he wants to do? Every lawyer is super conservative. They are not going to advise this to anyone, let alone someone with as much to lose, and someone who is as stupid as, Lord Trump.
You would think at some point he would come to the realization that he's wrong about everything.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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Is he willing to die his hair for the movie?
Renato is correct imo. Mueller wants to talk to Trump last and his lawyers know this. Mueller wont fall for this though, unless the investigation is further along than we know.
How often are you out there protesting in the streets?
ProtomanNeo
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Mueller will sit back let Trump talk and then be like.
Wouldn't be the first time he's taken a page out of the Russians' book.
The entire Republican party is just as much at fault for this shit. He has been spouting his toxicity on this for years, yet none of them had the balls to forcefully muzzle him as a primary when it truly mattered. Never once did they dispell the idea that it may not be a marketing ploy but the actual ramblings of a fucking moron.
This is their guy and they normalized and uplifted his rhetoric, not surprising at all at the 11th hour he's told to shut it and has a hissy fit. I mean he's an immature piece of shit afterall.
Sho_Nuff82
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The president has not been formally charged with anything. Volunteering information is not unheard of if you are genuinely interested in aiding an investigation.
djplaeskool
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Mark Andrew
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That said, it doesnt seem very likely he wants to aid the investigation he attempted to end by firing the FBI director.
Said Gabe before HL3 disappeared forever
WarMacheen
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I'm sure he won't threaten Mueller in person
BlueTsunami
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Get his words on record while hes still semi, relatively, cogent and hasnt slipped further into senility
WooHooAlex
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Good god, Id love to be a fly on the wall in that meeting.
What movie is this from?Mueller will sit back let Trump talk and then be like.
While on the surface this seems like a really dumb move, I'm wondering if they are trying to drum up public support/sympathy for Trump. They are basically setting up a timetable for Mueller - hey do this interview, you have till Thanksgiving to answer us.
So they want to rush Mueller into an interview with Trump when he may not have the material he needs to really press him. And then it's sort of a one shot deal.
If Mueller doesn't take the interview within the timetable then Trump and lawyers can go; 'Hey the president is a busy man and we offered a while back for that interview. Mueller is wasting time, fake news, fishing expedition, doesn't have anything, etc. Stop harassing the president.'
If Mueller takes the interview and doesn't come out of it with conclusive proof Trump and lawyers can instead say; 'See nothing, Mueller doesn't have anything the president is innocent as we've said all along.' Then down the road if Mueller wants another interview they again play up how he's now harassing the president with these interviews. Nothing was found last time, it's time to drop this investigation to no where, etc.
It sets up a lose-lose scenario in the court of public opinion. But they are basically banking on Mueller not having the ammo ready right now. If he somehow does then the whole thing blows up in Trump's face. I guess they are also banking on Trump not going off the rails in the interview and incriminating himself somehow; but they could still probably play it off as he misspoke or Mueller didn't understand what Trump meant. Wouldn't be a good look, but not a disaster.
Ultimately though I personally don't like this as they are the ones setting the time table when it should be Mueller & co.
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So they want to rush Mueller into an interview with Trump when he may not have the material he needs to really press him. And then it's sort of a one shot deal.
If Mueller doesn't take the interview within the timetable then Trump and lawyers can go; 'Hey the president is a busy man and we offered a while back for that interview. Mueller is wasting time, fake news, fishing expedition, doesn't have anything, etc. Stop harassing the president.'
If Mueller takes the interview and doesn't come out of it with conclusive proof Trump and lawyers can instead say; 'See nothing, Mueller doesn't have anything the president is innocent as we've said all along.' Then down the road if Mueller wants another interview they again play up how he's now harassing the president with these interviews. Nothing was found last time, it's time to drop this investigation to no where, etc.
It sets up a lose-lose scenario in the court of public opinion. But they are basically banking on Mueller not having the ammo ready right now. If he somehow does then the whole thing blows up in Trump's face. I guess they are also banking on Trump not going off the rails in the interview and incriminating himself somehow; but they could still probably play it off as he misspoke or Mueller didn't understand what Trump meant. Wouldn't be a good look, but not a disaster.
Ultimately though I personally don't like this as they are the ones setting the time table when it should be Mueller & co.
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Yeah pretty much this. They are going to play this up if Mueller asks for another interview down the road.
Just enroll in Russian spy school and you'll probably be more or less that.
That's my point though. It is an active investigation for obstruction of justice. Lawyers speaking directly with investigators unless requested is generally not the usual process and potentially misconduct.
WarMacheen
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ProtomanNeo
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Gotta agree with you on this.
That doesn't say Trump knew where the info was coming from.
Just that he had info. Kinda like someone saying, "I don't care how or what you do, get it done."
Let's just hope Trump knew enough to incriminate himself.
This.