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Proposed Missouri bill would force schools to alert parents when evolution is taught

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Kinyou

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Well, evolution and creationism aren't even in the same ballpark in terms of credibility, so why elevate creationism at all and have it waste time when the kids could be learning something real instead?

Unless it's a denominational private school why would they be obligated to teach religious doctrine? I'm as against that as I am not teaching evolution.
There was a little misunderstanding. I meant teaching it in religious education, not on a scientific level.
 

Trouble

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"It's an absolute infringement on people's beliefs," Brattin told the Kansas City Star of requiring schools to teach evolution. "What's being taught is just as much faith and, you know, just as much pulled out of the air as, say, any religion."

Utter horseshit. It is, by the very definition of the scientific model, exclusively not 'pulled out of the air'.
 

Plinko

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The right-wing's seemingly endless quest for combining church and state is incredibly infuriating.
 

Kinitari

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Do they want our children to learn about evolution from the streets? The children, someone think of them.
Maybe you guys can sell evolution like sex education. "Kids who learn about evolution in a safe, sanitary environment are a lot less likely to go looking for it on the internet, where they end up finding dinosaur porn, and republican sex tapes"
 
A sine from God?

10/10

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Ugh. I have to imagine this bill will not pass. I actually think the overall country is moving forward but that has really disturbed the craziest of whack jobs and so we're seeing a lot of incredibly stupid resistance.
 

kick51

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What's with all these US states trying their hardest to revert to the dark ages lately? The sane parts of the US should break away and form a new country where logic and rationality is allowed to rule.


that would be called quitting and it would validate those states' idiotic ideas and cause lots of problems
 

Kimawolf

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I told you all its the fucking country hillbilly small Towner's. It sucks cause we city folk don't believe in this kind of nonsense.
 
"It's an absolute infringement on people's beliefs," Brattin told the Kansas City Star of requiring schools to teach evolution. "What's being taught is just as much faith and, you know, just as much pulled out of the air as, say, any religion."

This is always the most insincere criticism that creationists make about evolutionary theory. It's meant to gain them credibility by making it seem as though they aren't elevating religion above biology.... but notice that no one ever says "evolution is just as much pulled out of the air as Christianity," because of course their personal faith happens to be the one true explanation of the origins of all life. It's just all those other religions that are pulled out of the air.


Gahhh... Terrible how for many the entire evolution theory comes down to that.

Why not just teach both and let the kids decide what to believe.

Because a science teacher is neither trained to, nor responsible for, teaching a child theology. If parents want their kids to hear the "other side" then they should make an effort to attend Church every week.
 
Do they want our children to learn about evolution from the streets? The children, someone think of them.

If I know my state, they don't want children to learn about evolution at all. Ever. A lot of the Missourians I know still believe that evolution is just an unproven theory. :l
 
Science is just another religion.

If science is religion, then God is the worst scientist ever. Seriously, he only has one publication, it wasn't peer reviewed, and it's chock full of inaccuracies. Add to that the fact that it was self-published so it doesn't even have a credible journal name to it. He also didn't include a methods section, which makes it impossible for anyone to recreate any of his experiments.
 

Monocle

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Politicians who propose this kind of thing should lose their jobs.

Science is just another religion.
The only one with no dogma, no appeals to the supernatural, no assumption of an unprovable deity, and an unrivaled track record for getting real results.

Basically it's exactly the same as every other faith based belief system, amirite?
 
Serious question, but do kids in America get taught religious education?

As in learning about all the different religions, their history, beliefs, etc?

Well I am in Canada, and went to a Catholic school, and Religion was a mandatory class from grades 9-11 I believe. They taught about more than just the catholic faith, though. Still, it was a lot of horse shit.
 

keuja

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Gahhh... Terrible how for many the entire evolution theory comes down to that.

Why not just teach both and let the kids decide what to believe.

Public school should never have to "teach" creationism. It's a science class, not a bible study class.
 
Ugh. I have to imagine this bill will not pass. I actually think the overall country is moving forward but that has really disturbed the craziest of whack jobs and so we're seeing a lot of incredibly stupid resistance.

Unfortunately, my state's legislature is heavily lopsided in the favor of very conservative Republicans. The chances of this getting through are dangerously high. I think hoping for a governor veto is our only hope sadly. I seriously hope it does not come to that and I am wrong though.
 

RiccochetJ

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I would prefer it if I got a notice if a public school is teaching religion outside of any approved religious studies class. If they are, I want a tax credit for every school that my tax dollars support.
 

Trakdown

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"It's an absolute infringement on people's beliefs," Brattin told the Kansas City Star of requiring schools to teach evolution. "What's being taught is just as much faith and, you know, just as much pulled out of the air as, say, any religion."

At least he admitted religion is just made up shit.
 
When I was in school my parents had to OK me being taught sex ed. This doesn't sound too different.

Except I'm assuming your parents had sex at least once and therefore would be qualified to teach you about it if they had refused the school's class. The same would be true for most other parents. Not the same with evolution.
 
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