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PS3 launch event in France: guess which troll is banned until the first price drop

BlueTsunami

there is joy in sucking dick
NinSoX said:
This is lying :lol


Hoooly shit. I'm wondering if that was taken out of some sort of context though. Like...one dude just has the controller in hand and isn't playing (or isn't trying to act like hes playing). Could be the case.

EDIT: Closer inspection shows that both are manipulating the controller. Thats hilarious :lol
 

zsidane

Member
ROFL said:
Heh.. Yeah Duff is a yank but my mate Tony was a guitarist who used to come over to LA a lot, if I remember correctly he did some session work for G&R too...

Why am I telling you this? I don't know.
I should really go to the pub...
Then have a good time man :)
 

FrankT

Member
PS3's French Debut- A Total Disaster: 95% of Consoles Left Unsold

Oh, Sony, Sony where art thou? Europe apparently doesn’t want Sony’s expensive PlayStation 3, with the French organizers describing the Paris launch of the PS3 a “non-event”.

As expected, Sony fans here in Europe turned out to be not so “true-blue” to their favorite brand, some of them starting to bash Sony for its “infatuation” and for the high price established in the PAL areas for the PS3.

Although they are receiving the PlayStation 3 six months later than the Americans or the Japanese, European gamers get a more expensive and less powerful console (with reduced backwards compatibility).

If Americans are (still) able to buy a high-end PS3 for $599 and the Japanese gamers can even acquire it for ¥49,980 (US$412)- the low-end version- Europeans have to pay for it € 599 (US $779) or £425 (US $840) respectively, while Australians and New Zealanders will pay at least A$1,000 (US $785) or NZ $1,200 (US $839) in their respective markets (I have seen a New Zealander who said he paid NZ $1500). By comparison, PlayStation 3 with the 60 GB hard drive costs ¥59,980 (US$494) in Japan…

The cheaper version, which is available in Japan and the U.S. for ¥49,980 (US$412) and US$500, respectively, won’t be offered in PAL countries due to "retailer and customer demand," according to SCEI.

Apparently Sony had everything prepared for a massive and impressive debut of the PS3 on the French market, but company officials’ worst expectations came true: the failure was “sounding”.

Yesterday, in the evening before the launch (March 22) more than 200 journos gathered underneath the Eiffel Tower, but soon realized something was wrong: the streets around the tower were empty, and, as the time passed by, Sony officials began to worry. A little late, I might add…

The only faithful French fans of Sony are truly amazed to find themselves alone (in the dark…). Serge, 31, tries to come up with an explanation: “It’s true that it’s expensive, but with a HD player, it’s worth it”. Frank, 19, who’s been waiting for more than 7 hours, begins to feel the regret: “I’m disappointed, there’s nobody here. I could have waited tomorrow [March 23]. Moreover, they’ve promised us animations and nothing happens”.
Next to the launch site are Kevin, 21, from Montfermeil, with his two friends Céline and Michel. Kev has been a Sony fan for 10 years and is now the happy owner of a PS1 and a PS2, but surprisingly he was pushed back by the security forces when he tried to approach PS3’s “ground zero”. “I come from the suburbs, probably my face is repelling”, he jokes.

About 40 police officers were mobilized for protection, although there was about the same number of persons gathered at the Eiffel Tower to celebrate Sony’s event. “We were told to prepare for at least 3000 persons” said one of the officers, who also declared that they were instructed to permit only those who had a means of payment to pass (cash or credit card).

Sony had previously announced the projection in HD of SCEI’s Casino Royale, the latest installment in the James Bond series, but instead the OSS 117: Le Caire nid d'espions, was projected. OSS 117 is a 2006 French film directed by Michel Hazanavicius, and is a parody of the spy film genre. The film follows the exploits of a French secret agent, OSS 117, in Cairo in 1955. It was sort of a metaphor for an evening literally deserted.

Close to 22hrs the journalists receive an SMS from the French Xbox marketing team: “the Xbox team wishes you a good evening” ("la Xbox team vous souhaite une bonne soirée"). Soon after that a small military boat flanked with “Xbox loves you” messages appears, carrying a group of Microsoft employees who defy “the enemy”. The world around them laughs but not the Sony employees.

All they wait now is probably the end of this nightmare. A FNAC responsible (the co-organizer of the event) enumerates the possible causes for this failure: “Wii’s success, bad weather, badly chosen launch date and finally the price of the console have made this evening a non-event”.

At 23hrs, a FNAC store-boat reaches at last Seine river’s shore, accompanied by a huge inflatable PS3, which is lit by an immense projector situated on the other shore. The giant screen now presents images with PS3 games, but nobody gives a damn, because of the Arctic cold outside.

Finally, midnight. Without cheers or applauses the first buyers are invited to step on the store-boat, and soon the first happy PS3 owners in France are interviewed by the crowd of journalists, who are more numerous. Only about 50 consoles were sold from the 1,000 available…

Not far away, on Champs Élysées, the FNAC store specially opened for the PS3 launch- just like other 12 stores of the group in the entire France- sees its PlayStation 3 consoles stalling on the shelves. Here, from the 1,000 consoles available, less than 300 found their owners…

I’ll keep you informed with what happens in other Euro-zones so stay tuned for more.

http://www.playfuls.com/news_06689_...otal_Disaster_95_of_Consoles_Left_Unsold.html

Non event, indeed.
 
One thing's for certain: the Euro charts next week are going to rival any large NPD or Media Create thread in recent memory. It'll be especially interesting to see what countries favor PS3 and by how much.
 
Me_Marcadet said:
WTF !!!
This title is pure bs !
It's seems to say that on all the store, there are 95% consoles left.
That percentage might just refer to the launch night and not the following day onward since that's all the article refers to. Pretty telling if true, though. That's, at least, some kind of indication of the demand for the system there. Add a percentage of people picking up systems through the weekend and I suspect that percentage won't be quite as awful. Believe.
 
MightyHedgehog said:
That percentage might just refer to the launch night and not the following day onward since that's all the article refers to. Pretty telling if true, though. That's, at least, some kind of indication of the demand for the system there. Add a percentage of people picking up systems through the weekend and I suspect that percentage won't be quite as awful. Believe.

It refers only to the event on the champ elysée, and it's 95% unsold stocks of 1 specific store.

That title is pretty misleading.
 

xabre

Banned
Me_Marcadet said:
It refers only to the event on the champ elysée, and it's 95% unsold stocks of 1 specific store.

That title is pretty misleading.

Wasn't that the store of the official launch? I can't see other stores being significantly better if that was the case.

The real important thing to understand with all this is, if the hardcore aren't buying the console how is it going to eventually sell to the more mainstream market?

They're f*cked.
 

spwolf

Member
MightyHedgehog said:
That percentage might just refer to the launch night and not the following day onward since that's all the article refers to. Pretty telling if true, though. That's, at least, some kind of indication of the demand for the system there. Add a percentage of people picking up systems through the weekend and I suspect that percentage won't be quite as awful. Believe.

As mentioned above, 4 hours after on sale on 23rd, at noon, biggest french retailer sold 10,000 PS3's... And remember, 60,000 avail. for complete France...

But nobody got them... probably Sony buying them back

:lol
 
turtle553 said:
Also try http://www.ps3forums.com

To them all good news is gospel and all bad news is FUD.
I've seen you there and your considered a troll 'nuff said!

MightyHedgehog said:
One thing's for certain: the Euro charts next week are going to rival any large NPD or Media Create thread in recent memory. It'll be especially interesting to see what countries favor PS3 and by how much.
Thank you for speaking some truth.
 

bigswords

Member
Onix said:
Nevoulezpas.jpg


:lol :lol :lol
HAHHA I was laughing when I saw this.

Seriously it's very simple, just drop the price closer to the US/Japan/Asian PS3 and your sales will be much higher.

No idea why do Europeans always gets the short end of the stick in console issues. My heart really goes out to them. But yes please punish Sony, teach those console makers a lesson.
 

Haunted

Member
MightyHedgehog said:
One thing's for certain: the Euro charts next week are going to rival any large NPD or Media Create thread in recent memory. It'll be especially interesting to see what countries favor PS3 and by how much.
Not without hardware numbers they won't. :(

It'll be hard to judge anything without actually having numbers in the charts. The tracking situation for hardware in Europe is pathetic at best. Case in point, Germany: The Wii is available since 8/12/06 and they've started tracking the Wii games in the charts two weeks ago.

Save for something really unexpected happening, the results of the European charts thread will be vague, and thus not really interesting. :(
 

xabre

Banned
bigswords said:
No idea why do Europeans always gets the short end of the stick in console issues.

That's easy...markets like the US and Japan are considered more important; the consoles are sold at a loss in these markets and that loss needs to be offset to a good degree...enter Europe.
 
xabre said:
Wasn't that the store of the official launch? I can't see other stores being significantly better if that was the case.

The real important thing to understand with all this is, if the hardcore aren't buying the console how is it going to eventually sell to the more mainstream market?

They're f*cked.

They ****ed up the big event at Paris because it was really the worst thing to do with so few media presence and so many stock.
People who buy their consoles at those kind of events are people who didn't prereserved the console and fear to not have one at launch.
Beside, we are in a heavy electoral period and media doesn't care about gaming industry.
There was only short reportage yesterday before the event but nobody talked about the ps3 since the end of last year with the christmas period and a big french gaming show.

Sony totally **** up when they thought there gonna be a lot of fans waiting in the cold while they can just go to local store and pick up one.

The official launch on the Champ Elysée was a total disaster, but it's really not representative of Ps3 launch sales.
 

big_z

Member
mckmas8808 said:
6 of his preorders weren't even picked up yet. I mean what will those people do with their pre-order?

Maybe not pick them up? I'm sure some of the pre-orders were for ebay... no point getting them now when there's plenty left on shelves.


Seems like euro launch overall was not so great. I'm sure sony is winding up the PR execs, they got a shit load of spinning to do. I don't know how that one guy in line could wait it out... i'd be too embarrassed waiting alone.
 
Haunted_One said:
Not without hardware numbers they won't. :(

It'll be hard to judge anything without actually having numbers in the charts. The tracking situation for hardware in Europe is pathetic at best. Case in point, Germany: The Wii is available since 8/12/06 and they've started tracking the Wii games in the charts two weeks ago.

Save for something really unexpected happening, the results of the European charts thread will be vague, and thus not really interesting. :(
Oh yeah, forgot about that. No hardware numbers will dampen the thread's potential.
Well, look at it this way: if Sony doesn't boast unit numbers sold this week...that's as strong as any indication you could have that they're screwed there.
 
spwolf said:
Micromania, with 260 stores in France, sold 10,000 PS3 by 12:33 PM 23.03.2007 in France.

38 units per store. That's LAME for Sony needs and for being a PlayStation in Europe and for a launch having a million units for launch night.

Here in Florida, ANY Target, Wal Mart and Best Buy sold over 40 consoles on launch day and at each store there was at least 50 people showing up and getting sad when finding out that there was no 360 for them.

Remember that US got arround 300-400k XBOX 360 on day one.

Sony is i HUMONGOUS TEXAS SIZE trouble if Europe does not become the saviors of PS3's doom.

No installed base, no exclusives and the probability of games becoming 360's exclusive grows.

I'm already sniffing FFXIII NOT coming to PS3...
 

milkham

Member
BlueTsunami said:
Hoooly shit. I'm wondering if that was taken out of some sort of context though. Like...one dude just has the controller in hand and isn't playing (or isn't trying to act like hes playing). Could be the case.

EDIT: Closer inspection shows that both are manipulating the controller. Thats hilarious :lol

I bet the dude in the suit isn't acting like he's playing, he probably just doesnt realize he's not playing.
 

bigswords

Member
Liberty City King said:
I'm already sniffing FFXIII NOT coming to PS3...

Errmm if you have said FFXIII is going multi-platform probably that might be valid to your arugement. But not coming to the PS3? Ohhhh boy~~
 

davepoobond

you can't put a price on sparks
Liberty City King said:
No installed base, no exclusives and the probability of games grows. Here in Florida, ANY Target, Wal Mart and NOT coming to PS3 exclusive

38 units per store. That's LAME. is i HUMONGOUS TEXAS SIZE trouble if does not . Best Buy sold over 40 consoles on launch day.

Sony become Europe 360's

I'm already sniffing FFXIII becoming the saviors of PS3's doom ...


i think i deciphered his post
 
bigswords said:
Errmm if you have said FFXIII is going multi-platform probably that might be valid to your arugement. But not coming to the PS3? Ohhhh boy~~

With the development costs of a FFXIII in a legitimate PS3 style in front of the installed based by the end of 2007 it sounds WAY more logical a Wii exclusive FFXIII...

That's a "worst case scenario", off course, but seriously, The PS3 needs DESPERATELY to build a solid installed based FAST or will start to lose key titles like FF.

The publishers/developers NEED to turn profit and if there's not enough installed base, there's not enough sales and no no profit. Specially on games that cost US$20 million (PS3's AAA).

And historically the installed base penetration on Sony Consoles is always under 15~20%.

Add the numbers now...
 

Uncle

Member
milkham said:
I bet the dude in the suit isn't acting like he's playing, he probably just doesnt realize he's not playing.

"You handle the left turns and the gas, I'll take the right turns and the brake."
 

bigswords

Member
Liberty City King said:
The publishers/developers NEED to turn profit and if there's not enough installed base, there's not enough sales and no no profit. Specially on games that cost US$20 million (PS3's AAA).

And historically the installed base penetration on Sony Consoles is always under 15~20%.

Add the numbers now...

Yup in this case if you were a software company and you NEED to make a profit, the easiest thing to do is multi-platform. Not droping a particular platform to make profit.

Multi-platform = more user base.

I have no idea what deal Sony has made with Square, but I presume FFXIII should be an exclusive for now.

If not in the worse case senario it will be multi-platform.
 

v1cious

Banned
Liberty City King said:
With the development costs of a FFXIII in a legitimate PS3 style in front of the installed based by the end of 2007 it sounds WAY more logical a Wii exclusive FFXIII...

That's a "worst case scenario", off course, but seriously, The PS3 needs DESPERATELY to build a solid installed based FAST or will start to lose key titles like FF.

The publishers/developers NEED to turn profit and if there's not enough installed base, there's not enough sales and no no profit. Specially on games that cost US$20 million (PS3's AAA).

And historically the installed base penetration on Sony Consoles is always under 15~20%.

Add the numbers now...

except even if FFXIII goes multiplatform, their main demographic is still Japan... so they will still clean up
 
bigswords said:
Yup in this case if you were a software company and you NEED to make a profit, the easiest thing to do is multi-platform. Not droping a particular platform to make profit.

Multi-platform = more user base.

I have no idea what deal Sony has made with Square, but I presume FFXIII should be an exclusive for now.

If not in the worse case senario it will be multi-platform.

The head of Sony France said yesterday that FFXIII is NOT a PS3 exclusive at the moment, that negotiations are still open.

The problem here is the cost of producing an AAA title for the PS3. It's TOO big for the size of it's installed base.

And FF cannot be cheaply produced.

I will not get surprised if FF goes the Dragon Quest way and have it's next installment NOT showing on the PS3.
 
I'm callin' it right here: FFXIII will go multiplatform. No doubt about it. While it's guaranteed to hit the PS3, it will also go to Windows and, very possibly, X360.

Make fun of me later if I'm wrong.
 
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