Why? Consoles don't sale that much over there, and the WiiU had more than a year head start.Huh... I figured PS4 would have been ahead a long time ago...
I'm actually surprised it passed it.
Why? Consoles don't sale that much over there, and the WiiU had more than a year head start.Huh... I figured PS4 would have been ahead a long time ago...
How is it stuggling when the PS4 beat its main competitor in Japan who had more than a year head start in sales? Last week PS4 sold nearly 100K (well persona did help) units while the Wii U sold around 3K.
Splatoon is an anomaly and perfect storm of aesthetic and appeal and marketing brilliance. I don't think Garage is going to have much luck following that up with another major success, lol. That's a rather impossible bar to follow.
Expect the PS5 sales to be closer to XB1 than WiiU next gen. The only way is down from here.
Wii U (mostly) sold very respectably in Japan, though as people have said, it sounds crazy that it took this long.
NX will decimate Japan.
No it won't. It *really* won't.PSVR may very well do that.
Had it released holiday 2015 I think it would have. Skyward Sword released when Wii was practically dead and buried and was the most restrictive console Zelda yet in terms of design and progression. It didn't have a really great response.Yeah, it's bigger than PS4 games outside of like FF, DQ and probably something I'm forgetting
It's just not big enough to keep a dead system afloat in japan.
Hm, related to your other comment, if it was Wii U exclusive and came....say Nov 2015 or even 2016, do you think it would've beaten Skyward Sword?
"Is there any reason why the Wii U won't dominate Japan?????" V2
It won't. The engine already has issues on higher spec consoles and the target demographic isn't a perfect match.This is why I still believe FFXV will be ported to NX.
Question since people are bringing up Persona 5 did I miss the sales data for how it did in Japan in relation to total PS4 Sales?
And are games like Yakuza, shenmue 3 going to impact Japanese sales?
Curious to see how long it takes NX to outsell PS4 and Vita.
Still, Sony needs to do something. Vita is getting long in the tooth for releasing handheld versions of bigger budget games (World of Final Fantasy may be one of the last), and if PS4 Pro and PS VR don't reignite PS4 sales I don't know what will. I wonder if SIE intend to relaunch PS4 in the region along with the Slim and some compelling software.
Interesting post. It's amazing that it even took this long to outsell the Wii U to begin with, and Splatoon is one of the best selling console games in Japan released in the past decade which certainly says something (I'm just not sure what exactly).
If it ever does.
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With a Splatoon followup, NX is guaranteed to sell at least as well as Wii U in Japan, but it's also absorbing the entirety of the handheld market that came before it. Though I suspect if publishers release upcoming games as cross-gen 3DS/NX (like Monster Hunter 5) NX adoption might not be that fast. We'll see.
Yup. Iwata mentioned in 2014 (I think) that their next platform would make considerations for how people play across the world.
So for Japanese publishers it will be a choice between continuing to support dedicated devices but on a Nintendo system, and pulling a Konami. I'm not so hopeful about that one...Unless PS4 sales start to deviate massively from their "just about beating Wii U" trajectory, NX is basically guaranteed to be the dominant dedicated gaming device in Japan over the next few years. Now how big a market dedicated gaming devices will actually be is a different question, but regardless of how big the pie is, you'd be crazy to bet against Nintendo taking the biggest slice of it.
So for Japanese publishers it will be a choice between continuing to support dedicated devices but on a Nintendo system, and pulling a Konami. I'm not so hopeful about that one...
I made an ugly graph.
This is why I still believe FFXV will be ported to NX.
From Media Create, after 2 years in the market, the PS4 has surpassed Wii U in lifetime sales.
PS4 - 3,267,243
WIU - 3,265,329
Wii U launched in Japan about one year and 3 months before PS4.
WiiU launch: December 8, 2012
PS4 launch: February 22, 2014
So for Japanese publishers it will be a choice between continuing to support dedicated devices but on a Nintendo system, and pulling a Konami. I'm not so hopeful about that one...
68k LIFETIME sales for Xbox One is just lol. I mean, I know no one cares about Xbox in Japan but that is still insanely low. Do they still release games for the system there and if yes how do they have to pay stores to stock them?
You ruined my thread with your short/crappy thread -_-
Anyways:
PS4 is the best selling mome console of this generation in Japan
According to Media Create, we have a new No.1 home console (for this generation) in Japan.
WiiU launch: December 8, 2012
PS4 launch: February 22, 2014
PS4 LTD: 3.267.243
WiiU Japan LTD: 3.265.329
XBO LTD: 68.224
Live camera of the home console race in Japan:
PS4
WiiU
XBO
How exactly would that be possible? The PS4 already struggles hard handling the game.
This is why I still believe FFXV will be ported to NX.
My impression is 3DS is still explicitly seen as a market separate from hardcore handheld (Vita, home to many smaller developers and publishers not on 3DS) and traditional home console (PS4, home to all 3rd party that consider Nintendo not matching their portfolio and for sales rather look Westward now with Steam ports and the likes). From Nintendo's pov NX may de facto be a merging of 3DS and Wii U, it's not a given that from publishers' pov they'll majorly see it as a continuation of the still rather successful DS line instead the disastrous Wii one.Japanese publishers have provided very good support for the 3DS, so I don't see why you'd expect that to change with the NX.
Good luck with that one. Expect more to pull a Konami before that though.It's not all about the domestic market you know. They can look into targeting users in the west more excessively.
3DS already outsold it.Yeah the 3DS will probably be the last device coming close.
NX will crush PS4 in Japan.
It's bound to happen. PS4 is up there as a GOAT console. Don't fuck it up, Sony.
NX is 3DS's successor, nobody is looking at Wii or Wii U.The same was said about the Wii U coming off of the Wii's success.
People REALLY need to take a vast chill pill about the NX.
It's struggling to run on PS4, no way it's happening.This is why I still believe FFXV will be ported to NX.
Why are they so close?
Don't know if you've been following the charts since around MGSV/pricecut but the PS4 has made great strides in 2016. It does need something to continue this upswing for another year, but that's what PS Slim, pricecut, Persona, FFXV, Yakuza, Pro, and PSVR are. Those can only build on the momentum that's already there
The same was said about the Wii U coming off of the Wii's success.
People REALLY need to take a vast chill pill about the NX.
My impression is 3DS is still explicitly seen as a market separate from hardcore handheld (Vita, home to many smaller developers and publishers not on 3DS) and traditional home console (PS4, home to all 3rd party that consider Nintendo not matching their portfolio and for sales rather look Westward now with Steam ports and the likes). From Nintendo's pov NX may de facto be a merging of 3DS and Wii U, it's not a given that from publishers' pov they'll majorly see it as a continuation of the still rather successful DS line instead the disastrous Wii one.
Sony cannot save Japan. This really is as good as it gets on the home console front.
The content is barely there now and outside of a handful of vanity AAA projects, it's not coming either.
You simply cannot get away from the fact that the majority of Japanese buying public do not want to game on console anymore.
Expect the PS5 sales to be closer to XB1 than WiiU next gen. The only way is down from here.
But Dragon Quest has essentially been multiplatform for some time (ok, 4 years to be exact). Granted, even that is an improvement for Nintendo. But in general I don't expect multiplatform titles to include NX more often than past Nintendo systems.Literally the very first games announced for it, before even Nintendo got a chance, were a pair of Dragon Quest games.
That much is obvious, I agree. And I agree this is the correct strategy from Nintendo's pov: keep the strong domestic handheld output and make it more accessible in the strong international home console market. I'm just not sure Japanese publishers that avoided Nintendo so far will join in this effort, and Nintendo alone won't be sufficient to keep the Japanese dedicated gaming device market even at the current level.Nintendo's decision to make the NX a handheld-first hybrid was almost certainly heavily influenced by a desire to keep their dominance of Japan and keep Japanese third parties on-board.