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[Dragon1893]

So smooth and clean, thank you based Hexadrive.

 

[sechsterangriff]

Pretty awesome news. lol at High Voltage. What was Konami even thinking.

They weren't. They just looked at a spreadsheet of proposed budgets and chose the cheapest one.

 

[KageMaru]

Great, I had bought the 360 version specifically because it ran better. Thanks, Konami! I'm doubledipping only because I love ZoE2 so much.

Yup, same here. I just ordered the 360 version over the weekend, completely forgetting about this patch, and now I'm about to order the PS3 version since it's now the better version.

 

[Tyrant Rave]

Time for another playthrough of ZOE2!

 

[Skyfireblaze]

I was just going to chime in on that one.

The answer is NO. ZOE 1 appears to be untouched.

When you start ZOE 2 a "HexaDrive" logo appears when the game is launched while nothing extra shows up for ZOE 1.

The framerate in ZOE 1 is just as unstable as it was in the original release. It certainly runs much better than ZOE 2 used to but it's nowhere near as smooth as the original PS2 version. Particle effects result in regularly slowdown and general gameplay rarely holds steady. It also lacks the anti-aliasing added to the sequel.

I'm kind of surprised and disappointed. Not that I love the original game all that much but it would have been nice to have both games properly remastered instead of just ZOE 2. ZOE 2 is virtually flawless at this point but the original game is still in somewhat poor condition.

Ugh I see thanks for the info it's a bummer But oh well fixing the second was nice enough.

 

[Lord Error]

Someone needs to hire these guys to do this for the Jak and Daxter collection on PS3 and Vita. Those are even falsely marketed to be HD actually.

 

[Augemitbutter]

happy to hear.

 

[Willy Wanka]

It should have played like this at release but it's good to know that some care was taken with the patch.

 

[paolo11]

Which runs better, ZoE 1 for 360 or for ps 3?

 

[dark10x]

Someone needs to hire these guys to do this for the Jak and Daxter collection on PS3 and Vita. Those are even falsely marketed to be HD actually.

Heh, someone should definitely fix it. It's one of the worst collections yet.

That said, even HexaDrive doesn't have a perfect track record. They worked on Snake Eater 3D, after all, which is right on par with those Jak games in terms of performance (OK, it's actually even worse).

Of course, most everything else they've done has been spectacular. I'm still amazed that Okami HD ran at 1080p.

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

Heh, someone should definitely fix it. It's one of the worst collections yet.

That said, even HexaDrive doesn't have a perfect track record. They worked on Snake Eater 3D, after all, which is right on par with those Jak games in terms of performance (OK, it's actually even worse).

Of course, most everything else they've done has been spectacular. I'm still amazed that Okami HD ran at 1080p.

To be fair, they didn't have much to work with when it came to Snake Eater 3D.

 

[dark10x]

To be fair, they didn't have much to work with when it came to Snake Eater 3D.

Heh, true. The 3DS hardware isn't much faster than the PS2, really (slower in some ways and more advanced in others), so porting one of the most demanding PS2 games that was custom designed for that unique hardware was no small task I'm sure.

 

[Not Spaceghost]

Which runs better, ZoE 1 for 360 or for ps 3?

Probably 360, but the PS3 version of ZoE 2 should run light years better now. I have no clue if the ZOE patch hit XBL or not.

 

[paolo11]

Probably 360, but the PS3 version of ZoE 2 should run light years better now. I have no clue if the ZOE patch hit XBL or not.

Great thing Zoe 2 runs great but what about zoe1? Does it run super crappy?

 

[perorist]

Probably 360, but the PS3 version of ZoE 2 should run light years better now. I have no clue if the ZOE patch hit XBL or not.

The patch is PS3 only, so it blows the 360 version out of the water now.

 

[icespide]

from what I recall, zoe1 performance is pretty decent on PS3.

zoe2 was really the bigger issue

 

[MechaX]

Great thing Zoe 2 runs great but what about zoe1? Does it run super crappy?

Not really super crappy, just not perfect.

 

[paolo11]

Not really super crappy, just not perfect.

How many fps? Does it get frequent slowdown a lot of times?

Does zoe1 run better than 360?

 

[Jrpgfanatic]

Excellent, I'm glad this has hit NA now too. ZOE1 was perfectly fine when I played it a month or two ago, but I decided to stop after the first 15 minutes of ZOE2 since the performance was pretty bad and I knew a patch was incoming. Looking forward to running through ZOE2 in the next few weeks.

 

[SkylineRKR]

I thought the performance of ZoE1 HD was very close to perfect as is tbh, but I don't really enjoy the game so I didn't play it all that much,

Its ZoE2 that ran like shit, and its perfect now. This is one of the best patches ever, as it REALLY delivers. ZoE2 HD is very much a 60fps game now. I'd go as far as saying that they should re-review this collection.

 

[paolo11]

Wait, forgive me but how well does ZoE 1 ran in ps3? Is it 60 fps? Does it run smooth? Does it slowdown too much?

 

[xemumanic]

The patch is PS3 only, so it blows the 360 version out of the water now.

Is this true? I thought the 360 version of ZoE 2 was already 60fps.

 

[CambriaRising]

How many fps? Does it get frequent slowdown a lot of times?

Does zoe1 run better than 360?

22-30, big attacks and a lot on screen will cause it, no.

Zoe2 is now noticeably better on ps3 with the patch. 360 will not be receiving this patch.

Is this true? I thought the 360 version of ZoE 2 was already 60fps.

Not even close.

 

[KTallguy]

It's not out for the Japanese release until 7/25, in case anyone was wondering.

 

[Fine Ham Abounds]

So this is worth playing now? I passed at release because of impressions.

 

[Guymelef]

Is this true? I thought the 360 version of ZoE 2 was already 60fps.

Arround ~45fps where PS2 was ~55fps and PS3 pre patched ~35fps

PS3 VS X360
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYVwhk5y2pU

PS2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrPZrtV00kI

 

[xemumanic]

Arround ~45fps where PS2 was ~55fps and PS3 pre patched ~35fps

PS3 VS X360
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYVwhk5y2pU

PS2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrPZrtV00kI

Well then, the choice is clear.

Still, there should be a 360 patch as well.

 

[paolo11]

Kinda bummer they did not patch ZoE 1.

 

[InternHertz]

I caved in and bought the collection, never played them before too. I won't have prior knowledge of the PS2 performance.

 

[Nags]

Kinda bummer they did not patch ZoE 1.

ZoE 1 ran fine but it is an inferior game all around anyway. I'm good with this.

 

[paolo11]

ZoE 1 ran fine but it is an inferior game all around anyway. I'm good with this.

Isn't the ps2 version run 60fps?

 

[Jarmel]

Fuck. I'm like halfway through with the 360 version.

 

[Defunkled]

Holy shit, the game runs so much smoother now. The difference is night and day.

 

[Lord Error]

Isn't the ps2 version run 60fps?

I can't remember how ZoE1 was running on PS2, but ZoE2 was 60, until something bigger stated happening on the screen... then it would slow down regularly and sometimes, during boss fights, massively. Cutscenes were also almost never hitting solid 60FPS on PS2.

 

[paolo11]

It was, until something bigger stated happening on the screen... then it would slow down regularly and sometimes massively.

So basically ZoE 1 ps3 has the same performance as ZoE 1 on ps2, am I correct?

 

[Lord Error]

Ah sorry, I didn't notice that question was about ZoE1. I can't actually remember how that was running on PS2.

 

[Lumpy Onion]

This is so cool. It's like I get a whole new game today. The slowdown on the big battle in ZoE 2 with all the LEVs made me stop the game. Using the Vector Cannon turned it into a slideshow. Can't wait to sink my teeth into this. I played on "Easy" when I first tried to play it, but now I think I will go "Normal" and really test my mettle.

 

[phosphor112]

Looks like I gotta get the game now!

 

[Dragon1893]

So basically ZoE 1 ps3 has the same performance as ZoE 1 on ps2, am I correct?

ZoE1 is fine on both consoles, some drops but nothing major, ZoE2 was the problem that needed fixing, there's almost a generational leap between both games.

 

[KeioSquad2]

Heh, someone should definitely fix it. It's one of the worst collections yet.

That said, even HexaDrive doesn't have a perfect track record. They worked on Snake Eater 3D, after all, which is right on par with those Jak games in terms of performance (OK, it's actually even worse).

Of course, most everything else they've done has been spectacular. I'm still amazed that Okami HD ran at 1080p.

First of all, I need some kind of proof that the jak games on ps3 run awfully, cause there is no evidence otherwise. I have the collection and it is a clear step up from the ps2 versions. If your so blind as to say otherwise how can i believe you on this patch?

 

[eddfromtheriver]

Someone needs to hire these guys to do this for the Jak and Daxter collection on PS3 and Vita. Those are even falsely marketed to be HD actually.

May the heavens hear you.

 

[Relaxed Muscle]

Not that I believe you guys, but I hope we get a comparison video between pre-patch and after patch.

 

[eddfromtheriver]

First of all, I need some kind of proof that the jak games on ps3 run awfully, cause there is no evidence otherwise. I have the collection and it is a clear step up from the ps2 versions. If your so blind as to say otherwise how can i believe you on this patch?

It could use some form of AA at the very least...

 

[dark10x]

Isn't the ps2 version run 60fps?

The ps2 version was a perfect 60 fps while the ps3 version is mostly 60 with dips occurring in the wake of transparencies. It's not too bad but not what it could have been.

 

[paolo11]

ZoE1 is fine on both consoles, some drops but nothing major, ZoE2 was the problem that needed fixing, there's almost a generational leap between both games.

I see. So to clarify and I apologize for asking:

ZoE 1 ps3 = ZoE 1 360 = ZoE ps2 on terms of performance?

 

[dark10x]

First of all, I need some kind of proof that the jak games on ps3 run awfully, cause there is no evidence otherwise. I have the collection and it is a clear step up from the ps2 versions. If your so blind as to say otherwise how can i believe you on this patch?

We're talking about the Vita ports. Jak is great on ps3 (though missing some minor effects) but the Vita ports are truly abysmal.

I see. So to clarify and I apologize for asking:

ZoE 1 ps3 = ZoE 1 360 = ZoE ps2 on terms of performance?

Nope. Ps2 is smoother than the HD versions.

 

[Peff]

First of all, I need some kind of proof that the jak games on ps3 run awfully, cause there is no evidence otherwise. I have the collection and it is a clear step up from the ps2 versions. If your so blind as to say otherwise how can i believe you on this patch?

The PS3 version runs fine (it's not actually much of a step up other than the lack of tearing, though), but it is sub-HD, it doesn't have proper 16:9 and it's missing a couple of minor visual effects here and there.

The Vita version on the other hand... the bandwith and electricity spent on downloading the PSN mistake were more than it deserves, good grief.

 

[Tain]

so, with ZoE2 and the Mystara games there are now three games this gen that have been ported to the PS3 twice by two different developers, lol

 

[paolo11]

We're talking about the Vita ports. Jak is great on ps3 (though missing some minor effects) but the Vita ports are truly abysmal.


Nope. Ps2 is smoother than the HD versions.

Thanks for answering. Is the ps3 version the same as 360 in terms of performance ( ps3)?

How frequent are the dips in ZoE 1 anyway?

 

[Decado]

So...which is better, ZoE2 HD or ZoE2 emulated on PC? Oddly enough, I still have my retail PS2 disc...