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PUBG's Xbox "exclusivity" is just as confusing as it was for ROTTB.
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Bluehole arent porting it.
In fact one of the teams that has worked on Crackdown 3 is doing it..
GoodCoffeeJoey
Banned
With MS publishing it on XBox now I'm guessing it will be XBox console exclusive for one year.
Liabe Brave
Member
Bluehole is not by any definition a small company, they have many hundreds of employees. (They support multiple service games, so only a portion are on Battlegrounds.) This makes them bigger than any Microsoft studio. Maybe about as big as 343i, The Coalition, and Rare put together?
Sumo or Ruffian?
Nah there was definitely confusion at the beginning pretty similar to what's going on now with PUBG
You don't know what you are talking about.
Head.spawn
Junior Member
Last time I'm posting on this particular thing, but I feel like these tweets are taken completely out of context, the headline created kind of pushes a narrative, but I think if anybody besides the OP actually reads Destin's timeline, you'll realize two things:
1) He wasn't simply asking if the game is coming to PS4. His main question he was getting to was about MS as the publisher which leads to number 2...
2) He was literally asking if MS was going to be publishing the PS4 version, as he mistakenly thought they had published the PC version and was clarifying that it wasn't going to be the case that MS wouldn't be the publish of the other versions outside of the XBO (&PC) deal.
A person following his train of thought flat out even asks him in regards to PUBG:
Absolute funniest part in all of this is that he got the answer he was looking for and moved along:
No idea why this random "Tall Dave" is included in the set of tweets as it pushes the idea they were asking the same question and looking for the same answer. Tall Dave was clearly concerned with "exclusivity" in general. He just crept into the twitter tree, doesn't actually ask a question and implies that she didn't answer a question (though above, clearly answered it for Destin) and she tells him they don't have any other announcements... now that only seems malicious if you imply the same thought process as OP, in context it's a sterile reply.
Now reread the OP. Bet money if you ask guy being quoted in the OP that this is an accurate summation that he'll say yes. I imagine this post will probably just get ignored though.
1) He wasn't simply asking if the game is coming to PS4. His main question he was getting to was about MS as the publisher which leads to number 2...
2) He was literally asking if MS was going to be publishing the PS4 version, as he mistakenly thought they had published the PC version and was clarifying that it wasn't going to be the case that MS wouldn't be the publish of the other versions outside of the XBO (&PC) deal.
A person following his train of thought flat out even asks him in regards to PUBG:
Absolute funniest part in all of this is that he got the answer he was looking for and moved along:
No idea why this random "Tall Dave" is included in the set of tweets as it pushes the idea they were asking the same question and looking for the same answer. Tall Dave was clearly concerned with "exclusivity" in general. He just crept into the twitter tree, doesn't actually ask a question and implies that she didn't answer a question (though above, clearly answered it for Destin) and she tells him they don't have any other announcements... now that only seems malicious if you imply the same thought process as OP, in context it's a sterile reply.
Now reread the OP. Bet money if you ask guy being quoted in the OP that this is an accurate summation that he'll say yes. I imagine this post will probably just get ignored though.
Acticto, who are working with Cloudgine.
Crimsonclaw111
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Hip Hop
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He might.
You really think he is the end all be all in the company?
Im sure others have much more of a say than he does.
He runs the whole division though?
After E3
http://gamingbolt.com/playerunknown...e-game-wont-compromise-pc-version-due-to-xbox
Also, I keep writing Anticto wrong.
JigglesBunny
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The messaging is intentionally obtuse. It'll wind up on PS4 by the end of 2018, I'm sure.
"We are not fans of exclusive deals.
Unless they're our exclusive deals."
Hip Hop
Member
Does he?
That still doesn't matter
if it makes sense, it makes sense. They got presented with an opportunity and they grabbed it.
To be fair he was talking about content in games being held back, not games. Imo exclusive DLC like in Destiny bothers me more than timed exclusive games like this. Fair enough that people hate them both but that's not what Phil was saying I don't think.
Crimsonclaw111
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VanCityGamer
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Other than neither of the games you mentioned actually being exclusive, you make a great point. WTF.
Odd because I thought there were debates here on GAF where some were arguing that the TR exclusive deal wasn't as bad as the SFV deal because it wasn't a permanent exclusive.
I also remember holding out for the PS4 version until I built my PC and got that instead. The wording from the TR exclusive deal was along the lines of "launching exclusively on Xbox I 2015" IIRC. From that use of words, I thought it was clear it was coming to PS4 the following year.
Regardless, based on how unwilling they are to confirm full exclusivity on Xbox, I think it's safe to say it'll land on the PS4. I think people are worrying over nothing.
It says console exclusive right there on the tin for PUBG, like Titanfall did before it.
And i'm referring to MS securing IP's, they own minecraft don't they? They can make anything having to do with it exclusive if they want to. They did what they had to to get PUBG on their system before anyone else, who knows if it'll come to other platforms.
That's just smart thinking
Ninja Scooter
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You didn't say "securing IPs". you said "exclusives" and your only existing example was minecraft, which is nonsense.
I can't tell if you are intentionally being obtuse or not.
MetalliCabombination
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Hard to tell if this a serious post.
It was definitely unclear at the announcement and got clarified later in press releases or something.
It's funny, I did a Dorito search to pull some Phil quotes against timed exclusives or exclusive deals, and it's not really what he said:
https://twitter.com/XboxP3/status/811350267991969792
So he's not a fan of deals where they lock out content from other consoles. Timed exclusives he's cool with though, especially when defending RotTR a couple of years ago:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...r-makes-case-for-tomb-raider-exclusivity-deal
Personally he's hiding behind his words. If you look at the two arguments, he's carefully choosing his words to defend himself when it benefits Xbox and express disappointment when it doesn't.
I don't like him. Like this whole cross platform multiplayer argument he started. He can say, cross platform multiplayer is good for the industry, we're doing it and it's easy to do, so it's all up to Sony. He put them on the defense. They've resisted because from a business sense, it's beneficial to keep gamers in the Playstation walled garden. And he knows damn well if he was in that situation, he would do the same as Sony. But he's getting beat, so he throws the challenge.
I like how you tried to turn this issue into a console war by making factually incorrect statements about GAF's reaction to Crash's exclusivity and then when you were called out on it with proof, you completely ignored it and never went back to it.
Yet in this post, you're continuing your console war bullshit.
fastballspecial
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It'll be on PS4. Install base is far too large to ignore.
travisbickle
Member
What's the point of all this bickering and concern?
Until I see it actually never release on PlayStation it's not exclusive on Xbox.
Until I see it actually never release on PlayStation it's not exclusive on Xbox.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Deal?
Xbox has an early access program. PlayStation does not.
MS is now getting them some help to get the Xbox version out faster. That's it. The exclusivity window is due to the Early Access. It's basically a default timed exclusive.
It could be 3 months, 6 months 1 year or even 2 years. It depends on how long it's in early access for. MS hasn't had to pay for the exclusive window. How long it's exclusive depends completely on the developer.
Playstation doesn't have a program, but they allow Early Access games. Look at Fortnite.
Liliana Eileen
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Fortnite doesn't count because it even released retail. It's not the same vein of early access like Xbox has on XBL.
Fallout-with-swords
Banned
Playstation will let games like PUBG on their system in their current state, it's the early access games that aren't feature complete that I assume they don't want.
How did I not notice that until you pointed it out?
Ninja Scooter
Member
wtf? Fortnite is literally in early access on PC. Same thing with stuff like Dreadnought. Sony can make exceptions if they want to. They could have said PUBG was in "paid Beta" or some shit. It's all meaningless anyway.
Well they need to update this then:
https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-us/games/fortnite/cid=UP1477-CUSA07022_00-FORTNITETESTING1
They have allowed 2 games this gen. Fortnite and Ark( about a year after it was in the MS program). They don't have an early access program. They have twice allowed an early access game on the platform. One of which has a retail release
As of this moment Microsoft has 12 games in the early access preview program. If Sony is allowing EA games on the platform in bulk, maybe they should spread the word to devs out there. I'm sure black desert or Conan exiles would rather be on the PS4 than Xbox. PUBG devs specifically named Game preview 3+ months ago as the reason why it was coming to Xbox first
Grumplestiltskin
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It's worth mentioning that they also had an Early Access period for the Marvel Heroes Omega release prior to its official release on the platform. So while its not common its certainly not unprecedented either.
The sales for Rise of the Tomb Raider say otherwise and they say it rather loudly.
If thats what they would actually say then yes thats all that would matter but thats not what they say. What they say is in a conscious effort to deceive people about their business dealings and not only does that upset people in the here and now who see through it but eventually upsets the people for whom it actually works when the truth (or Software in this case) comes out. Its basically mortgaging their consumer good will and brand positivity for some potential short term profits.
Just to reiterate my initial post for the new page in case anyone wants to address the points I made or discuss how this actually benefits the Xbox brand/department in any way:
(I hope its ok to reiterate an initial post like this. If not please let me know and I will edit it out of this reply)
I mean, that is literally what I said.
You do realize that, by your own definition, it would never be an exclusive even if it were an exclusive?
Jeff Freecss
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I am bit confused. So are we going to have a bitching party every time a console maker make a deal with third party? Or are we just doing that because Sony fans here can't play the game early or exclusively for once?
The sales of Rise of the Tomb Raider is pretty fine last time I remember. Plus the paycheck from Microsoft, I bet that's why Crystal Dynamics is still making games and not fired like IO Interactive.
I think it's not Microsoft Publishing's place to say whether a non-exclusive game is coming to PS4 or Switch or not. "Exclusively this year" is the only statement that is guaranteed to be true in the scenario. No body can be sure whether the dev will port the game to other platform or not. Anything can happen. As for the dev, "focusing on the current platform" comment is also the only statement that is guaranteed to be true. If for some reason PUBG bombed on Xbox One, it's possible the dev will give up console port once and for all. Plus, it was the game preview program that get it's Xbox One release in the first place. The game may stay in preview program for a long long time, I don't think the dev would like to undercut the sale performance for another port that might not be happening soon.
The sales of Rise of the Tomb Raider is pretty fine last time I remember. Plus the paycheck from Microsoft, I bet that's why Crystal Dynamics is still making games and not fired like IO Interactive.
I think it's not Microsoft Publishing's place to say whether a non-exclusive game is coming to PS4 or Switch or not. "Exclusively this year" is the only statement that is guaranteed to be true in the scenario. No body can be sure whether the dev will port the game to other platform or not. Anything can happen. As for the dev, "focusing on the current platform" comment is also the only statement that is guaranteed to be true. If for some reason PUBG bombed on Xbox One, it's possible the dev will give up console port once and for all. Plus, it was the game preview program that get it's Xbox One release in the first place. The game may stay in preview program for a long long time, I don't think the dev would like to undercut the sale performance for another port that might not be happening soon.
Bumblebeetuna
Member
Some people seem angry about the wording, idk why. It makes no sense to sign any kind of deal and then tell potential customers exactly how long they need to wait to play it on another platform. Seems especially weird given how chill people are in crossplay threads and how "well it just makes business sense for Sony!"
I mean, the wording seems obvious. If it were a real exclusive then MS would be shouting it from the rooftops.
I mean, the wording seems obvious. If it were a real exclusive then MS would be shouting it from the rooftops.
Liliana Eileen
Member
Funny thing is that some of the posters spouting the most vitiroil and/or concern posts about PUBG Xbox exclusivity have said opposite in Crash posts, something more blatantly a slap in the face than PUBG (devs stated why it's on Xbox as opposed to all the back and forths regarding Crash). Earlier at work as I was going through this thread I wanted to make a wall of shame but now that I have the chance, it's just not worth it.
IMHO none of these games should be fully exclusive, but the hypocrisy and double standards from some are crazy.
Nightengale
Member
I'm too lazy to look up all the threads, but considering that different communities within GAF have bitched significantly for the following, but not limited to:
- Destiny 1/2 DLC timed-exclusivity
- Titanfall timed/lifetime exclusivity
- ROTR's unclear/timed/is it 6 months or 1 year exclusivity status
- No Man's Sky exclusivity status
- Dead Rising 4's timed exclusivity ( just a little bit )
- Is Crash exclusive? Will it be exclusive? Think of Sony's involvement? It won't be, Acti still owns it! etc etc.
Among other games...
Yes, we are going to basically have a bitching party every time.
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