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Puzzle & Dragons |OT4| Co-op Edition: Stoning With Friends
- Thread starter Cosmo Clock 21
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The alt techs are definitely harder than the old versions, due to some floors spawning multiple preemptive hits. Not sure which version we got yet, but a triple spawn can oneshot most teams. (edit: Yeah, we got the harder hitting version, can be up to 45k. This gets nerfed eventually.)
The 40 stamina Rogue dungeons and 66 stamina Rush dungeons are the old normal versions. The ones that cost more have extra floors with a greater difficulty and boosted monster stats.
Hopped to Discord bandwagon. Come join fellow Gafers
Yeah Im in as well. Already like it better than Line. Vote Discord in 2016!
If you're coin starved, use the PEM machine, there is dragon carnival going and just sell the gold ones. instant millionaire!
Wow you weren't kidding. Thanks for the tip!
Likely has to do with decreased revenues, not as easy to string the EU/US along with increased competition and slowing adoption. The 3 min stamina is to keep you coming back to play more often (it works).
With the recent problems I've read about I'm much less likely to spend money until a proper account system is set up. I don't like the idea of me loosing an account so easily with the shitty customer support that exists now.
Rekwest
Member
Joined.
Zippedpinhead
Member
I can't join discord yet.
Anyone want to try their luck at zaerog co-op? Just to complete it? A shiva, A Bastet or A Sakuya. I think shiva or Sakuya is our best bet though...
Anyone want to try their luck at zaerog co-op? Just to complete it? A shiva, A Bastet or A Sakuya. I think shiva or Sakuya is our best bet though...
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
So you can join Discord voice chat and then load up PAD. You can then talk while running the dungeon that way. That's super awesome. May be useful when running the really really tough stuff.
Dr_LawyerCop
Member
Great day in PAD. Patch was awesome, caught descended carnival on my lunch break and got the Zhou Yu I needed for A. Sakuya. I've got a pretty good Dark A. Sakuya team potentially, but it needs a ton of work (DKali x2, A. Yomi, DIza). Going to be a good opportunity to improve my skills though, since I've never ran a color match lead, or combo really.
atlantaguy
Member
I feel like the only thing that could make Z8 more stressful is having someone else watch me attempt floor 9....
That said I can try later. I'm low on stamina atm.
That said I can try later. I'm low on stamina atm.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
For anyone interested...
I talked to myself off wifi on Discord for 10 minutes. So data was being sent out I think? Whatever the case, I went from 4.87MB data usage to 7.96MB data usage. I want to test it out later with someone else sending/receiving voice data. More just trying to get a feel of what the situation will be like for cases where you aren't able to get on wifi (traveling or whatever).
I talked to myself off wifi on Discord for 10 minutes. So data was being sent out I think? Whatever the case, I went from 4.87MB data usage to 7.96MB data usage. I want to test it out later with someone else sending/receiving voice data. More just trying to get a feel of what the situation will be like for cases where you aren't able to get on wifi (traveling or whatever).
Had no time for coop yet but i beat Challenge 6 and 8 today with Sakuya....just launched them quick because i needed to burn Stamina, wprked out fine though.
Also Awoken Astaroth and Parvati are quite nice so far - while Lakshmi is a bit of a let down, then again i dont have the best or + subbed. Dont see her outshining Sumire for me.
Edit:
Also had great skillup luck on my second Verdandi. 1/14 ..... this game lol
Congrats man - the Journey is over :-D
Also Awoken Astaroth and Parvati are quite nice so far - while Lakshmi is a bit of a let down, then again i dont have the best or + subbed. Dont see her outshining Sumire for me.
Edit:
Also had great skillup luck on my second Verdandi. 1/14 ..... this game lol
Congrats man - the Journey is over :-D
Lakshmi is ridiculously strong after her buff.
I haven't attempted it myself, but I'm fairly certain you can mostly bypass floor 9 by passing to the second player if they have appropriate subs. Skill delay should only affect the active team members when it hits.
I haven't attempted it myself, but I'm fairly certain you can mostly bypass floor 9 by passing to the second player if they have appropriate subs. Skill delay should only affect the active team members when it hits.
Dr_LawyerCop
Member
It'll rotate. I think it skills up Sumire.
Thanks
Bad luck you have there :/.Yeah it is, didnt have I & I skill up. 3k Autoheal + nice rcv and well the damage.
Combo of 5.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
I think A.Yomi has broken me because i look at that screen and think "lol none of them are doing over 2m damage"
Okay guys what is a good way to see if a dungeon is within my "power" range? I see all these special dungeons, some are very easy, others 1-shot me and it's quite frustrating.
Anyhow, in order to evolve my starter, I&I , I need a Keeper of Rainbow which apparently shows up during "Evo mats unite" dungeon that is coming out soon.
The thing is, I check the pdx site and the monsters have 9999 atk, what in the world.
Is this wrong info on the site or I'm not supposed to evolve (the very first evolution) her until vey very late into the game?
Also one very important thing. A fellow pal here on the thread said I&I is a decent starter, another said not that much. Apparently she's good after awakening, however I see guys saying something of the sort "after more than a year I awakened Idunna".
Should I just forget it and start over on the next godfest? Keep her and hog stones and try something else?
Honestly I don't even know why I keep playing this damn gacha game, it's dumb how I got to keep looking at external sites to see what's coming up. But god dammit this schemes are keeping me addicted and the general gameplay is so good. I can't leave now
Anyhow, in order to evolve my starter, I&I , I need a Keeper of Rainbow which apparently shows up during "Evo mats unite" dungeon that is coming out soon.
The thing is, I check the pdx site and the monsters have 9999 atk, what in the world.
Is this wrong info on the site or I'm not supposed to evolve (the very first evolution) her until vey very late into the game?
Also one very important thing. A fellow pal here on the thread said I&I is a decent starter, another said not that much. Apparently she's good after awakening, however I see guys saying something of the sort "after more than a year I awakened Idunna".
Should I just forget it and start over on the next godfest? Keep her and hog stones and try something else?
Honestly I don't even know why I keep playing this damn gacha game, it's dumb how I got to keep looking at external sites to see what's coming up. But god dammit this schemes are keeping me addicted and the general gameplay is so good. I can't leave now
Joined the Discord group.
I am quite pleased with this update as it brought many of the things I wanted, namely monster buffs (especially Parvati and Haku) and unevolved fairy/bowl/chaser skillups. Even with Awoken Pandora being announced, I held onto 19 fairies to skill her up in the interim and fortunately am 1 away from max.
I'll be on the lookout for co-op stuff later when my kid isn't being a brat.
To know if you can complete a specific dungeon, the simple answer is experience. However, you can go into Endless Corridors to see how much damage output your team is capable of. Use that information alongside sites like padx to assess your team's ability to take down that floor.
For Keeper of Rainbow, he is available every Tuesday for 30 stamina an attempt. He has ~900k HP but you get something like 5 turns to take him out. If you have Echidna or someone else that can delay KoR to give you extra turns, bring it.
For I&I, I say keep her since you've already started stockpiling stones. You can use the time to gather more stones or practice. Then, roll on the next godfest and see what the results are. If you are dissatisfied, then go ahead and reroll. Awoken I&I when paired with Ryune can take down late-game dungeons but requires some REM subs to better the odds.
Depending on how often you play, awakening monsters should not take a year. With some luck in the PAL machine, you might get some of the harder to acquire mats. Also, Awoken monsters require 2 descended dungeon drops as mats. If you stick with I&I, she has one very early descend drop in Hera as an evo mat which makes her much easier to awaken. From here, it depends on your ability to take down Aegir dungeon.
I am quite pleased with this update as it brought many of the things I wanted, namely monster buffs (especially Parvati and Haku) and unevolved fairy/bowl/chaser skillups. Even with Awoken Pandora being announced, I held onto 19 fairies to skill her up in the interim and fortunately am 1 away from max.
I'll be on the lookout for co-op stuff later when my kid isn't being a brat.
Okay guys what is a good way to see if a dungeon is within my "power" range? I see all these special dungeons, some are very easy, others 1-shot me and it's quite frustrating.
Anyhow, in order to evolve my starter, I&I , I need a Keeper of Rainbow which apparently shows up during "Evo mats unite" dungeon that is coming out soon.
The thing is, I check the pdx site and the monsters have 9999 atk, what in the world.
Is this wrong info on the site or I'm not supposed to evolve (the very first evolution) her until vey very late into the game?
Also one very important thing. A fellow pal here on the thread said I&I is a decent starter, another said not that much. Apparently she's good after awakening, however I see guys saying something of the sort "after more than a year I awakened Idunna".
Should I just forget it and start over on the next godfest? Keep her and hog stones and try something else?
Honestly I don't even know why I keep playing this damn gacha game, it's dumb how I got to keep looking at external sites to see what's coming up. But god dammit this schemes are keeping me addicted and the general gameplay is so good. I can't leave now
To know if you can complete a specific dungeon, the simple answer is experience. However, you can go into Endless Corridors to see how much damage output your team is capable of. Use that information alongside sites like padx to assess your team's ability to take down that floor.
For Keeper of Rainbow, he is available every Tuesday for 30 stamina an attempt. He has ~900k HP but you get something like 5 turns to take him out. If you have Echidna or someone else that can delay KoR to give you extra turns, bring it.
For I&I, I say keep her since you've already started stockpiling stones. You can use the time to gather more stones or practice. Then, roll on the next godfest and see what the results are. If you are dissatisfied, then go ahead and reroll. Awoken I&I when paired with Ryune can take down late-game dungeons but requires some REM subs to better the odds.
Depending on how often you play, awakening monsters should not take a year. With some luck in the PAL machine, you might get some of the harder to acquire mats. Also, Awoken monsters require 2 descended dungeon drops as mats. If you stick with I&I, she has one very early descend drop in Hera as an evo mat which makes her much easier to awaken. From here, it depends on your ability to take down Aegir dungeon.
Dr_LawyerCop
Member
Okay guys what is a good way to see if a dungeon is within my "power" range? I see all these special dungeons, some are very easy, others 1-shot me and it's quite frustrating.
Anyhow, in order to evolve my starter, I&I , I need a Keeper of Rainbow which apparently shows up during "Evo mats unite" dungeon that is coming out soon.
The thing is, I check the pdx site and the monsters have 9999 atk, what in the world.
Is this wrong info on the site or I'm not supposed to evolve (the very first evolution) her until vey very late into the game?
Also one very important thing. A fellow pal here on the thread said I&I is a decent starter, another said not that much. Apparently she's good after awakening, however I see guys saying something of the sort "after more than a year I awakened Idunna".
Should I just forget it and start over on the next godfest? Keep her and hog stones and try something else?
Honestly I don't even know why I keep playing this damn gacha game, it's dumb how I got to keep looking at external sites to see what's coming up. But god dammit this schemes are keeping me addicted and the general gameplay is so good. I can't leave now
Awoken I&I is a relatively new monster. Some enemies like rainbow keepers have high attacks that will 1 hit kill you, but you have 5 turns to kill it. Rainbow keepers has his own dungeon on tuesday that isn't too difficult, but might be a little past you. Save all of your pal points until there's an evolution materials, which is like every couple weeks. That's the best way to get jewels and keepers when you're just starting.
You're going to fail a lot of dungeons, but you'll start to learn what your team is capable of and what you're not. Just keep pounding away in normal and technical dungeons and don't worry about descends until you have a team that's ready for them. With 3 min stamina now, it's a great time to be just starting out.
Hehee, no wonder
Anyways I can offer few excuses.
- I&I is around 65 level
- Most plused mob is A.O. with whopping +40
- Majority of A.O. pluses are in HP section
- Iam a poor comboer.
Okay guys what is a good way to see if a dungeon is within my "power" range? I see all these special dungeons, some are very easy, others 1-shot me and it's quite frustrating.
Anyhow, in order to evolve my starter, I&I , I need a Keeper of Rainbow which apparently shows up during "Evo mats unite" dungeon that is coming out soon.
The thing is, I check the pdx site and the monsters have 9999 atk, what in the world.
Is this wrong info on the site or I'm not supposed to evolve (the very first evolution) her until vey very late into the game?
Also one very important thing. A fellow pal here on the thread said I&I is a decent starter, another said not that much. Apparently she's good after awakening, however I see guys saying something of the sort "after more than a year I awakened Idunna".
Should I just forget it and start over on the next godfest? Keep her and hog stones and try something else?
Honestly I don't even know why I keep playing this damn gacha game, it's dumb how I got to keep looking at external sites to see what's coming up. But god dammit this schemes are keeping me addicted and the general gameplay is so good. I can't leave now
Fellow beginner here, Ill help out a little. Generally, if a dungeon is 50+ stm, it's gonna be pretty difficult, especially for a beginner with weaker monsters. You can reliably get Keeper of the Rainbows from the tuesday dungeon, or evo materials unite if your on when that shows up. The 9999 attack guys will take 4 or 5 turns to hit so you should be able to kill them before that or have over 9999 hp.
Going back to the Ama discussion a few posts back, I have been saving all the Yatagarasu since I started playing years back for when I eventually pull an Ama. Now I realize that with the new Yata, Awoken Ama changed skills. So is it pretty much safe for me to consider my pile of Yata useless and feed it away for experience?
One of the biggest fault of the game to me is that relying on another site is a near requirement of the game. They did implement QoL improvement before with the Evolution menu so maybe we'll eventually see stuff like a countdown for scheduled dungeons, popups that would show other monsters that shares skills, different evolution paths, etc.
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Honestly I don't even know why I keep playing this damn gacha game, it's dumb how I got to keep looking at external sites to see what's coming up. But god dammit this schemes are keeping me addicted and the general gameplay is so good. I can't leave now
One of the biggest fault of the game to me is that relying on another site is a near requirement of the game. They did implement QoL improvement before with the Evolution menu so maybe we'll eventually see stuff like a countdown for scheduled dungeons, popups that would show other monsters that shares skills, different evolution paths, etc.
Dr_LawyerCop
Member
I think you can feed them, unless you have a spare Ama you want to keep in a different form instead of awoken.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
That kind of damage would have been quite fine on my old A.Shiva anchor. Newer dungeons keep demanding more out of my teams though.Hehee, no wonder
Anyways I can offer few excuses.
- I&I is around 65 level
- Most plused mob is A.O. with whopping +40
- Majority of A.O. pluses are in HP section
- Iam a poor comboer.
Monster Strike publishes full schedules for everything and has a good number of QOL improvements, so if GungHo keeps chasing after that 1st place crown maybe we'll get something... a year down the line?
Okay guys what is a good way to see if a dungeon is within my "power" range? I see all these special dungeons, some are very easy, others 1-shot me and it's quite frustrating.
Anyhow, in order to evolve my starter, I&I , I need a Keeper of Rainbow which apparently shows up during "Evo mats unite" dungeon that is coming out soon.
The thing is, I check the pdx site and the monsters have 9999 atk, what in the world.
Is this wrong info on the site or I'm not supposed to evolve (the very first evolution) her until vey very late into the game?
Also one very important thing. A fellow pal here on the thread said I&I is a decent starter, another said not that much. Apparently she's good after awakening, however I see guys saying something of the sort "after more than a year I awakened Idunna".
Should I just forget it and start over on the next godfest? Keep her and hog stones and try something else?
Honestly I don't even know why I keep playing this damn gacha game, it's dumb how I got to keep looking at external sites to see what's coming up. But god dammit this schemes are keeping me addicted and the general gameplay is so good. I can't leave now
In general they are labelled, hardest to easiest:
Mythical-Plus > Legend-Plus > Mythical > Legend > Master > Expert > *
The idea with the evolution materials with high attack is that if you focus them enough you can kill them before they get a hit off. It helps to have monsters with sub-elements so they can hit twice against their high defense. You can also bring a delay like Echidna to save your ass when there are multiple monsters attacking at the same time. There are other strategies you can use at low levels to get them too (look up 'Zombie' teams) that basically utilize the ability to survive a killing hit above certain HP points. You can get all of the Expert level materials this way, including Rainbow Keeper.
Also, if you find a Ryune buddy (who you would want to pair I&I with at all times) you should quite easily be able to get over 9999 health to be able to tank a single hit, or simply burst them down with some two-prong attacks (match 4 orbs).
Otherwise you can just wait for the PAL Egg Machine to switch to evolution materials and pray.
I'm interested in trying it with Shiva.
atlantaguy
Member
Managed 1.9% (~127k points) on the ranking dungeon with AShiva. Should keep me in the top 10%. I'd love the crown, but my run was pretty much ideal, and I don't know how much I could improve.
What's sub's did u use? I see people using verdandi or liu bei for the siren floor.
tiltnkirby
Member
Oh goodness, you better quote that.
Quote didnt seem to do much, going to stick it in a spoiler.
Screw it... The image is huge. Click to see my giant blue trifruit hoard from today's effort.
atlantaguy
Member
Yeah Verdandi was helpful against siren. I think I matched 2 greens on that floor. Specific subs don't really matter. Just sort your red box by ATK and pick the two highest. Then add a 5-turn orb changer and your highest attack G/R monster. Then it all comes down to skill/RNG.
Played a bit of coop today and think that it is a refreshing update.
I wish however that rooms were static and you could invite someone to one and then pony off dungeons until either of you wants to quit out. the current need for new room numbers every dungeon is OK, but takes too long I think to coordinate without other apps. Wish you could invite a friend to a room through the game.
I wish however that rooms were static and you could invite someone to one and then pony off dungeons until either of you wants to quit out. the current need for new room numbers every dungeon is OK, but takes too long I think to coordinate without other apps. Wish you could invite a friend to a room through the game.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
They're removing the need for codes for friends in an upcoming update, so that part is taken care of.
Wow, that'll make things waaaaay easier. Cool!
Sweet that is a needed change. Hopefully we get it with the same speed as we got this patch.
CountAntonius
Member
Will we create an account name for that?
^^ Thanks for the tips, switched Verdandi and one shotted Siren. I forgot to use skills before boss wave where I used Verdandi, I have so much room for improve the score and going to try to do it.
Iam surprised how good damage I did without awoken skills.
Tell me about it!
I got 2/15 for my Verdandi, I could rage all over this fucking game.
Yesterday I went farming again for those stupid dragonfruit's but of course the only drops I got were fucking blue and red!!!
Really hoped that I get one at least at Max S.Level....
But I'm pretty happy about 3 min stamina and about my new Blonia.
At the last godfest I got 2(!) Thor's, sold one and i'm waiting for a Indigo to get him to awoken status.
Also got a hathor.
Is she any good, or is my sakuya a better option out of these two?
Can I sell her?
Lucky you!
Do I have you as a friend?
I have an almost hypermaxed Verdandi and a pretty good bastet for you.