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Quake Champions - Large Scale Tech Test on 05/11 - 05/22 + NDA drops & Sacrifice mode
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CommandThrower
Member
This is excellent! I've been in the Closed Beta ever since week 2, so I'm glad to hear that more people can get to experience the game soon in an open event~!
When are servers going live? When do they usually go live for the old weekend tests? Only got in last week.
Hmm? Where are you getting this from?
I don't think we'll need a new code and a new download. We already have the client. Think we'll find out in a couple of hours, or maybe sooner. I vaguely remember seeing a 10 am time somewhere, not sure if it was EST or PSt.
Hmm? Where are you getting this from?
I don't think we'll need a new code and a new download. We already have the client. Think we'll find out in a couple of hours, or maybe sooner. I vaguely remember seeing a 10 am time somewhere, not sure if it was EST or PSt.
You know what I think they did change it. The original article has updated notice on it now and what I have quoted in the OP came straight from it.
You'll be fine. I've done it for two weekends with the same code. Only needs to put it that first time.
Okay, that's good to know. That must've been recommended space? I saw 50 and just decided to let it DL while I'm at work.
Just need to know when the servers are live.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Pretty sure its May 12.
At any rate I found this good basic tutorial on movement:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp747Ayb13E
I haven't played the beta yet, gonna start with this new test. Definitely gonna try jumping around like this.
At any rate I found this good basic tutorial on movement:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp747Ayb13E
I haven't played the beta yet, gonna start with this new test. Definitely gonna try jumping around like this.
Rocket Jump Ninja loves Quake and it shows in all his videos. They are very passionate and helpful. He's an amazing veteran player too. Hadn't seen this video in particular but checked out some of his earlier ones and some of his mouse reviews. Thanks
blue_phazon
Member
Looks good! I should really get to building a PC soon...
Definitely the worst Quake game from the footage I've seen so far. Nothing really separates it from Q3/QL and it takes away more than it adds new. Champions and abilities don't fit in well with most traditional Quake modes and if anything they just make the Quake experience more frustrating. Only sure thing with this title if its released on steam (most likely) is that it won't get higher than a 'mixed' steam score.
It's a good formula to get casuals playing, but they'll get bored playing the few game modes that will be available. They also risk alienating a large portion of the quake fanbase with too many fundamental changes to the Quake formula that has worked over the past 20 years (an even playing field, etc), which means they'll be left with mostly casuals playing and few hardcore quake fans.
I don't think the game will fair much better than Brink.
It's a good formula to get casuals playing, but they'll get bored playing the few game modes that will be available. They also risk alienating a large portion of the quake fanbase with too many fundamental changes to the Quake formula that has worked over the past 20 years (an even playing field, etc), which means they'll be left with mostly casuals playing and few hardcore quake fans.
I don't think the game will fair much better than Brink.
ichtyander
Member
I just watched this clip earlier today because I've noticed some stuff about the movement in the beta but I wasn't really clear what worked and what didn't (not to mention some of the character abilities seem to be tied to movement in theory, but then basic things like the stuff shown in the clip seems to work on all characters), and it definitely helps.
So I've been playing the new UT on and off since they started the alpha, and I think they slowed down some of the movement stuff a bit over time, and even though I like it, going from that to Quake: Champions felt really good and fast. At least for now during the beta, I felt that I could hold my own, so for a, let's say intermediate player like me that doesn't really care to get much better at it, it can be a lot of fun I think. Not sure about some of the other stuff and its staying power thought, but it's an arena shooter I might like to play for a while, which is great.
Casuals turn into hardcore fans. Just like any other Quake game, this game will have its own community and supporters.
These two games are completely different. Quake Champions does not suffer from the same issues which made Brink a failure. You might want to change your expectations.
ichtyander
Member
Oh wow, I played the couple last betas but didn't know about zoom damage, that's really dumb.
Played a couple of Sacrifice matches, it's kinda hectic but need to play more to get the feel. I usually like objective based modes, but having the enemy team often abuse you at your own obelisk isn't that fun. I mean, it's a matchmaking balance thing in general.
Feels like they may have done something to the Lightning Gun, or it's just me not having played a while.
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
NDA is over? I played the last test, thought it was decent but really don't like the various movement speeds and hp of the champions. The champion classes don't do too much for me in general, not a fan of the character aesthetics, not that that really affects anything.
More than anything, this game made me wish DOOM hadn't botched their multiplayer with loadouts and shitty gametypes. I find the gameplay to be significantly better and the weapons to be more varied and interesting. Plus wall climbing and double jumps made manueverability amazing. I will admit though, I'm not great at the strafe jumping in Quake, so I probably could like it a lot more with practice.
I'm not sold yet, but I'm interested and will follow this game's unfolding.
More than anything, this game made me wish DOOM hadn't botched their multiplayer with loadouts and shitty gametypes. I find the gameplay to be significantly better and the weapons to be more varied and interesting. Plus wall climbing and double jumps made manueverability amazing. I will admit though, I'm not great at the strafe jumping in Quake, so I probably could like it a lot more with practice.
I'm not sold yet, but I'm interested and will follow this game's unfolding.
They have reduced the range for LG.
Space Runaway
Member
Hmm...so this Sacrifice mode is the main one they're pushing for team esports tournaments. Well I hope it's good...try it out later tonight.
Glass Shark
Banned
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bee
Member
hehe they've nerfed 12dmg heavy machinegun zoom down to 10, was funny destroying ppl who were using lg and them typing a load of shit afterwards, was needed though along with 90 zoom rail dmg
still don't get any of the complaints with regards to different hp/armour , i mean they could still do with some tweaking of course but sorlag for instance has a lot of starting health but even an average player should be able to hit 50+lg against him and his football pitch hitbox
gonna go try sacrifice
edit: no invisible lg fix
still don't get any of the complaints with regards to different hp/armour , i mean they could still do with some tweaking of course but sorlag for instance has a lot of starting health but even an average player should be able to hit 50+lg against him and his football pitch hitbox
gonna go try sacrifice
edit: no invisible lg fix
human onion
Banned
Did they fix the stupid rocket launcher delay?
I'm still not a fan of most of the abilities, some are ok.
I'm still not a fan of most of the abilities, some are ok.
Generally speaking, I think the game is fun for a certain type of player, but I feel their biggest barrier will be that there's nothing for players who can't aim super well to contribute to their team, or to achieve in general.
I've played a lot of these types of games over the years, so it's went well for me, but there are tons of people in matches I've played that go like 3:20 in kills to deaths (and that's being generous for a lot of them), and some of them with levels suggesting they've played at least a few matches.
Most of the audience will be driven off really quickly by this, and then god help anyone who isn't good at this genre and tries to join after a month or two once all the new people are gone.
Even the business model isn't very favorable. The dailies are things like "Hit a target with the rail gun twice in a row without missing five times". A lot of new players are going to be lucky to hit people with the rail gun once.
You also can't buy champions with in game currency. You rent them for a one day period, and you have to save up or complete all your dailies to do that, which is basically only serving people who want to play 4+ hours a day or whatever.
Mind, I don't think there's anything wrong with making a product to appeal to mostly pure arena shooter fans, but if they want enough of a population to sustain a game like this, they would do well for at least one of the six modes to try and have something for players who haven't been playing high speed shooters for 15-20+ years.
As it stands, I expect this game to be mostly dead within three months of launch, or at least on track to not get many updates, and that's going to be a bummer for fans of the genre.
I've played a lot of these types of games over the years, so it's went well for me, but there are tons of people in matches I've played that go like 3:20 in kills to deaths (and that's being generous for a lot of them), and some of them with levels suggesting they've played at least a few matches.
Most of the audience will be driven off really quickly by this, and then god help anyone who isn't good at this genre and tries to join after a month or two once all the new people are gone.
Even the business model isn't very favorable. The dailies are things like "Hit a target with the rail gun twice in a row without missing five times". A lot of new players are going to be lucky to hit people with the rail gun once.
You also can't buy champions with in game currency. You rent them for a one day period, and you have to save up or complete all your dailies to do that, which is basically only serving people who want to play 4+ hours a day or whatever.
Mind, I don't think there's anything wrong with making a product to appeal to mostly pure arena shooter fans, but if they want enough of a population to sustain a game like this, they would do well for at least one of the six modes to try and have something for players who haven't been playing high speed shooters for 15-20+ years.
As it stands, I expect this game to be mostly dead within three months of launch, or at least on track to not get many updates, and that's going to be a bummer for fans of the genre.
bee
Member
i completely get what you're saying and do agree somewhat but it's always been a game with a very high skill ceiling, if you take that away it isn't quake but ye it's not very good for getting a lot of new players and retaining them
the abilities do help to an extent though, even a good player is going down sometimes vs sorlag acid or scalebearer charge
I think it's more just that they should consider some kind of PvE mode or maybe a mode that's about some kind of objective with a different scoreboard, while leaving the regular modes as is, since that will at least let people get better at the game at their own pace.
Like similarly, the free character you get right now talks about how everything is a horrible nightmare that won't end whenever you respawn, except when they make a joke about how Overwatch sucks. I think it's not a good idea to have your base character constantly remind players they're doing horribly and that Overwatch exists, since players doing badly will be hearing those lines *a lot*.
To be fair, there are many new player friendly games out there already. Its nice to see more demanding old school shooters coming back.
One reason why I like QC is the fact that I can usually change the outcome of the match with my own play. There are no forced team play mechanics, such as mechanics which require a dedicated healer in your team. Those forced teamplay mechanics feel like an anchor in my back when I try to play popular casual friendly FPS games.
If the game is fun to play and it is not troubled by major technical issues, it will have players even if it is not casual friendly.
spindoctor
Member
I've played the game for a bit and yeah, the one liners when you respawn are really corny. There's one that goes something like "too painful to be a dream, too real to be a nightmare". Just... why?
That said, I've not heard this line that references Overwatch. What exactly does it say if you can remember?
Aruarian Reflection
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Fatal1ty streaming himself stomping on some poor newbies for 24 hours https://www.twitch.tv/fatal1ty
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
The character Bios are really cheesy too. But honestly it was like that for Quake 3, just minus the voiced lines.
StrategyFan
Member
gross
well, i guess 20 years was a good run
maybe duel won't suck
CommandThrower
Member
When does this happen? Granted, I haven't played a lot of Ranger, but I never heard about this quote. Nobody on the Bethesda forums talked about it either, to my knowledge.
Kuksune
Member
Played a few matches now and i'm not feeling it to be honest.
The announcer is blander than the DOOM 2016 announcer, and that's saying alot. Weapons feel off, I can't really put my finger on it. Stages are boring to me.
I'll give it another shot when i'm playing with friends but I don't see myself playing this solo.
The announcer is blander than the DOOM 2016 announcer, and that's saying alot. Weapons feel off, I can't really put my finger on it. Stages are boring to me.
I'll give it another shot when i'm playing with friends but I don't see myself playing this solo.
I think they got the weapon feel down really well, it was the first thing that came to my mind after my first game in an earlier test.
And I think all the maps are pretty good now after a fair amount of games on all of them. I didn't really like Ruins at first, but it grew on me as soon as I learned the map properly.
My only real complaint is the same as a lot of other people, I just don't want the character abilities there. But it's a thing I can deal with if it means we will get a popular arena shooter and not some early access game on Steam where just finding enough people for 1 game can be hard,
Kuksune
Member
You probably have played more of this than me. I'll give it another fair shot later.