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Rise of the Tomb Raider Crystal Dynamics FAQ - Confirms timed exclusive for XB1/360
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LastGamer84
Member
The deal still just boggles my mind. But by all means CD and SE, wrap that big old millstone called the Xbox One around your neck and jump right into the water.
And before anyone asks, I'm no fan of Tomb Raider, or Uncharted for that matter. While the TR reboot didn't interest me, it showed some potential. Potential they've now squandered because MS tossed money their way. So now they've pissed off their fans, and practically guaranteed Uncharted will outsell TR during holiday 2015.
All for that short-term gain of a little extra cash...which they would have made anyways had they just released it on all platforms at the same time. I hope the money was worth the negative PR and staggered sales SE, I really do.
And before anyone asks, I'm no fan of Tomb Raider, or Uncharted for that matter. While the TR reboot didn't interest me, it showed some potential. Potential they've now squandered because MS tossed money their way. So now they've pissed off their fans, and practically guaranteed Uncharted will outsell TR during holiday 2015.
All for that short-term gain of a little extra cash...which they would have made anyways had they just released it on all platforms at the same time. I hope the money was worth the negative PR and staggered sales SE, I really do.
reptilescorpio
Member
Still shocked they are releasing this on 360 at the end of 2015.
They could have, they just didn't want to.
El-Pistolero
Member
I suppose that the two versions of the game (Xbox One and 360) are going to be handled by separate teams. The question arises as to whether or not they are going to use the exact same engine...
Nightengale
Member
MS themselves had no problem distinguishing first on Xbox when it came to indies.
But suddenly it's different because it's Tomb Raider and TRIPLE A.
BeforeU
Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
They will probably pull Titanfall like bullshit, about delaying for 2-3 weeks. is CD doing the port of 360? or its some other developers.
Dragonborn
Member
Knowing it's coming to PS4 kind of makes the whole thing a pointless waste of money for MS, doesn't it?
Why even post this question if you only give a bullshit pr answer of nothing.
IdreamofHIME
Member
Tomb Raider Legend on 360 was the 1st TR game on a HD era console.*
Tomb Raider Anniversary was the 1st full retail game to be downloadable on 360 and again, the 360 was the only HD console it was released on.*
*PS3 versions were released 3-4 years later.
SolidSnakex
Member
Pretty much, especially considering that TR's main popularity is in Europe.
BruiserBear
Banned
Not at all. Anyone who doesn't frequent forums will have no idea it's a timed exclusive. That means most people won't know it's a timed exclusive.
Because it's possible they really needed the money to keep the studio going? People have of course been assuming lots of things with this announcement. We have no idea of the financial state of this studio, and why that may have motivated them to make such a deal.
It has to be. Xbone sales alone would be embarrassing.
SomedayTheFire
Member
They more than likely will. With the 360 version running the standard engine and the One version running with the updated Definitive Edition version. You don't write a new engine for a sequel in two years.
Pound_lb003
Member
Crystal Dynamics said:
You could care less about about making sense.
QuantumBro
Banned
Dragonborn
Member
But who's going to buy the console for TR? MS already had Halo 5 for late next year. I just don't get the logic behind this. They could have used the money to fund some other game, like maybe approach Capcom about Dragons Dogma 2.
Majmun
Member
It does for me. I'd buy a X1 if this were an actual exclusive.
Going to wait for the Ps4 version now.
SuperSonic1305
Member
The best game it could possibly be would mean no last-gen. What a load of shit.
This is bullshit. They could have very easily said "timed exclusive" during gamescom. It was clearly intentionally left fuzzy. Considering Microsoft announced other titles as timed exclusive during the same conference.
Dragonborn
Member
It being just business doesn't put it above criticism. People are absolutely allowed to be upset about this since it's BS, business or not.
I wouldn't be surprised if the last gen version exists because of this deal. Going from launching on both current gen systems to only one could have very well presented the need for a last gen version, even with MS's money bag contribution. Everything CD had said in the past made it sound to me like the next Tomb Raider was always going to be current gen only, so I wonder what impact going cross gen is going to have on the game. Either the last gen version is going to be a very different game, or the current gen version is going to get completely gimped in order for it to scale down more. Regardless, I agree that releasing a cross gen non-sports game at the end of 2015 is absurd and can only hurt the quality of the game.
As a huge fan of the Tomb Raider series and the reboot in particular, this whole situation has been and continues to be incredibly disappointing.
Chobel
Member
No they didn't, SE can release RoTR without MS help. Source: Kagari.
Xbox 360 came out November 22, 2005 in NA.
There is a chance that this game will come out after the 10th anniversary (or will be close to it)
10 YEARS
Absurd.
Zeyphersan
Banned
Normally I'm not on this cross-gen hate train, but an Xbox 360 release in holiday 2015 is fucking pathetic.
It's nice that Crystal Dynamics finally said something, I guess? Anyways, hopefully everyone has learned from this debacle to not use weird and confusing language. People are going to ask questions and find out very quickly what you mean by "exclusive". No point trying to dance around.
Yeah, no. Maybe if you subscribe to revisionist history. The first 2 days were a shitstorm of confusion. If you googled "Tomb Raider Exclusive" you got a ton of sites saying "it's exclusive" or "is it exclusive? we're not sure".
It was more confusing than it needed to be.
ebullientprism
Member
Man I bet CD/SE are LOVING all this free publicity. Before this the game barely would get a mention.
Zeyphersan
Banned
I don't know where you got THAT idea
Ricerocket
Member
It being announced on 360 at the end of 2015 makes it seem like it'll be exclusive to just MS console + PC because they weren't comfortable with it just being on X1 alone.
Upset by what? A timed exclusive? Something that has been done for a long time, or exclusives in general which have existed since gaming started? I hoping eventually gamers would just accept that these things happen. You're never garunteed to get all content on whatever platform you selected, this is how gaming has always been.
Dragonborn
Member
Not all publicity is good. I, for one, will buy it used when it hits PS4. They won't see a cent from me (and I bought TRDE day one)
It's not impossible it was regionally different, but they had timed exclusive DLC on the last game, Lara Croft 1 was part of Summer of Arcade, and the one before that was also tied to Xbox 360 during promotions.
SketchTheArtist
Member
Revealing the game so early with just a CG trailer, practically no info AND adding this exclusivity deal to an already rocky-established first outing (sold well but far from perfect) seems like a recipe for disaster.
shacklesmcgee
Member
Does not compute.
ebullientprism
Member
No, really, they couldnt have planned it better. They havent showed a frame and its constantly on the front page everywhere.
ndawgdrake
Member
This has damage control written all over it. Understandable, though.
And Yay! TR for PC mid to late 2016!
And Yay! TR for PC mid to late 2016!
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
Poor, poor little Square-Enix.
Nice that they came out with more bullshit so everyone can see how full of it they are.
They don't really say what platforms it's coming to after the "duration" which is the information I wanted.
I also find it hilarious they claim they considered their fans. Sure, they might have briefly. But clearly an immediate payout was a higher priority for them than getting their game in the hands of their fans or they wouldn't have done this. I understand why, they're in the business of making money first and pleasing fans second. They have bills to pay and I'm cool with that. But I can't say I'm not disappointed I have to wait until 2016 to play this.
Ultimately, make a great game and I'll buy it whenever it comes out. Just please don't pretend deals like this have our interests at heart.
I also find it hilarious they claim they considered their fans. Sure, they might have briefly. But clearly an immediate payout was a higher priority for them than getting their game in the hands of their fans or they wouldn't have done this. I understand why, they're in the business of making money first and pleasing fans second. They have bills to pay and I'm cool with that. But I can't say I'm not disappointed I have to wait until 2016 to play this.
Ultimately, make a great game and I'll buy it whenever it comes out. Just please don't pretend deals like this have our interests at heart.
I actually think in some ways it can be worse. At least it can be argued the money made from that deal could allow them to disregard last gen hardware and focus wholly on the newest, but instead we're getting something that's playing it safe by being last gen AND won't be across PS/PC as well. All this PR fluff comes off as hollow given where they're coming from, unlike the likes of Insomniac, Remedy, or especially Access games.
EDIT: Well, that depends on how last gen actually works here. If it's less "we're making a 360/PS3 game that will be higher resolution and fps on XB1/PS4" and more "we're making a XB1/PS4 game and letting a third party make a sort of imitation game for 360/PS3" then it's irrelevant and timed exclusive is worse again.
