John Wick
Member
Nah brah! You'll struggle with those low spec cards. Best you can hope for is 800x600, 8x AF and low AA.
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Rise of the Tomb Raider PC System Requirements (Official)
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Nah brah! You'll struggle with those low spec cards. Best you can hope for is 800x600, 8x AF and low AA.
!Dictator93
Member
You are being a bit generous.
Stilton Disco
Member
Brillo, the budget rig I'm building is comfortably above those requirements, so I'm hopeful I can run this at 60fps with roughly XO quality at least.
I have that same wallpaper (but in 4K) lol.
icecold1983
Member
Is it possible to estimate the cost of VXAO compared to HBAO+ ?
The next Tomb Raider will have VXAO on PC.
Here's what I can find on the subject :
altho i think the top image is just regular ssao
Agent_4Seven
Tears of Nintendo
Um... wha? Since F when 4K is exсlusive feature of W10? What are they smoking out there (?), looks like a really good stuff (^_^)
P.S. Pre-ordered btw. Can't wait to play the game. Probably will replay previous one before release.
Samurai G0SU
Member
omg i cant wait to see some screens. it looks so GOOD right now.
Forward your question to Square Enix.
Rise of the Tomb Raider does include AMD technologies like Tressfx (or perhaps an heavily tweaked variant) and will in all likelyhood perform well on GCN but technically speaking this is a Geforce branded game.
It also had Nvidia's VXAO.
They are using TressFX.
I actually welcome this approach: devs using the best tech for individual aspects of a game (AMD tech via TressFX and Nvidia tech via VXAO) over going all-in with a vendor-specific tech (Gameworks).
Paradicia
Member
I hate how vendors are using these "exclusive" features for cards. Nvidia advertised having wave tessellation in Just Cause 3 and the water didn't even look on par to the likes of GTA V & Assassins Creed: Black Flag. It just goes to show how BS these features are and show that these "features" are just marketing lingo to get people to buy there super duper deluxe cards for one measly feature that won't affect your overall experience of the game.
UnrealEck
Member
Can't wait to see how the game looks with VXAO compared to the AO used on XBox One.
Lower performance.
Lower performance.
ISee
Member
So Purehair is an evolution of Tressfx, used in the next Deus Ex as well.
Hey wait. Are you playing right now?
Is there a hidden dx12 setting somewhere? Please say yes.
That's the EVGA guy playing this at 4K.
https://twitter.com/EVGA_JacobF
No DX12 support but that was already pretty much confirmed since the press release did not mention it at all.
That's the only bad news, the same inconsistent AA used on Xbox One.
He posted this too.
maxed out in 4K
That picture is not exactly informative hence why I ignored it.
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I don't expect the PC version to be an improvement over the Xbone sku in absolutely every area. So it should be very easy on the hardware at 1080p, only Nvidia's VXAO could end up really taxing.
KainXVIII
Member
Why not SMAA? Is it harder to implement?
d00d3n
Member
Yeah, this is weird. Have they really artificially capped the resolution for non win 10-users? WHY?
You answered your own question.
It runs on Xbone, how could it be demanding ? It's in all likelyhood the same algorithm.
Tressfx 1.0 has been affordable for a while, I don't remember my 770 struggling much at all with it on and that was in 2013.
Those options look decent. Only FXAA (or MLAA aparently) is a tad disappointing but one can always downsample.
Didn't they make it affordable by simulating less stuff than the original iteration? I read something about there being fewer individual strands.
Didn't they make it affordable by simulating less stuff than the original iteration? I read something about there being fewer individual strands.
ISee
Member
I distinctively remember Tressfx 1.0 featuring only one LOD, with Tressfx 2 and 3 multiple LODs are used. The strands of hair are made thicker to make up for the loss of individual strands.
Nixxes is great though. They are very consistent
Well tomb raider 2013 was a mess when it launched and it took them some time to get it fixed, more than little time i have to say so im not super exited about them handling the port
Locuza
Member
TressFX 2.0 improved a lot upon the first version.
LOD, Vertex-Shader vs. Geometry Shader for extruding segments.
After all AMD claimed x2 performance improvement.
http://www.hardwareluxx.de/images/stories/newsbilder/aschilling/2013/apu14-tressfx-7.jpg
TressFX 3.0 and PureHair further improve all the things.
The hair is now clustered, with master and slave strands.
This way you can decrease the simulation cost.
They did a lot for better performance, but also improved the visuals.
So we will see where the net-result will stand.
On PC? I don't recall that. Maybe with Tress FX applied, but that was an unoptimized tech to begin with, so they would need AMD to optimize their rendering code first.
What i do recall is their work on TR for PS3 and PS4 being stellar. The PC ports can't be as bad as you claim, especially based on performance benchmarks i've seen.
Adry9
Member
I remember playing TR 2013 on my 7950 and not being able to turn it on whilst maintaining 60 fps. But it looks promising now.
My only concern is that Square Enix might have rushed them to get the game out earlier. I don't know if the port was already done or if there were plans to release it a a later date.
I distinctively remember Tressfx 1.0 featuring only one LOD, with Tressfx 2 and 3 multiple LODs are used. The strands of hair are made thicker to make up for the loss of individual strands.
Yup. This is most likely also the reason for why the cutscenes were rendered in a lower resolution on the Xbone - they needed a higher number of hair strands for the close-up shots. Will be interesting to see how they've handled it in the PC version. From the options menu screen it doesn't look like we'll be able to customise how many strands are shown... would be nice to get the option to have the cutscenes' close-up LOD at all times during gameplay, though.
giant_frying_pan
Member
I played both of those on day one at max settings and they were both fine for me.
Im talking about the game not being optimized when it came out, it ran bad on AMD but it was terrible on Nvidia, game did got fixed but it took them quite a few patches, dont know about tress fx because it looked terrible so i stuck with the regular hair
Locuza
Member
TR2013 was a bit buggy for PC.
For Nvidia there were problems with TressFX.
For everbody there was an Tessellation and SSAA bug, if both are activated:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sn5_F1Mg18&hd=1
TressFX looked not really good.
It was floating and very "active".
They improved and fixed the things, new driver from Nvidia came in.
Overall I would say it was a very good port, but the launch wasn't silky smooth in every regard.
For Nvidia there were problems with TressFX.
For everbody there was an Tessellation and SSAA bug, if both are activated:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sn5_F1Mg18&hd=1
TressFX looked not really good.
It was floating and very "active".
They improved and fixed the things, new driver from Nvidia came in.
Overall I would say it was a very good port, but the launch wasn't silky smooth in every regard.
Locuza
Member
I don't know if Tessellation is used widely, but the Xbox One Version uses adaptive Tessellation for the snow deformation.
For the snow and perhaps character models (just to smooth out shapes).
Probably not going to be used more liberally on PC, although I would very much like it.
Have people seen these PC 4K screenshots?
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_rise_of_the_tomb_raider_pc_screens-17425_en.html
A lot of weird artifacts in these images. Hmmm. And man, hair still looks bizarre up close :/
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_rise_of_the_tomb_raider_pc_screens-17425_en.html
A lot of weird artifacts in these images. Hmmm. And man, hair still looks bizarre up close :/
InfiniteCombo
Banned
I'm not a tech wizard when it comes to these things, but this seems true. It ran like a charm on my humble i5 + GTX 760 setup. Smooth as butter at 1080p60, although TressFX didn't always play along nicely.
I have hopes for this port.
icecold1983
Member
id expect the new tressfx to have less of a performance impact than nvidias voxel ambient just going off history but you never know
SlaughterX
Banned
Kinda wish I had waited but I will double dip when it's $20 or less.
Give gramps his PC back.