No they don't have any criteria they just choose characters. For example Dante from the new DmC. And please don't fool yourself into thinking it's the same Dante, even Capcom confirmed year ago that it's a new Dante for an alternate universe DMC franchise.
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Rumor: Ryu Hayabusa(DoA/Ninja Gaiden) and Kat (Gravity Rush) join PS All-Stars?
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No they don't have any criteria they just choose characters. For example Dante from the new DmC. And please don't fool yourself into thinking it's the same Dante, even Capcom confirmed year ago that it's a new Dante for an alternate universe DMC franchise.
An AC character is actually one of the more rumored third-party inclusions, lol. A while back everyone thought Connor would be in.
He conveniently only said the Tekken characters weren't in and never mentioned Ryu. Hm.
SuperSonic1305
Member
I didn't realize those games never came out on Playstation. What demon have I made a pact with to allow me to play Dead Space on PS3?
The whole game just feels really cheap and a horrible cash in.
Of course not. They don't have new games to advertise, which is the basic criteria for all 3rd party entries.
Of course not. They don't have new games to advertise, which is the basic criteria for all 3rd party entries.
evilromero
Member
Not that I care if they're third party or not but we're the NES Ninja Gaidens and arcade version on PSN?
Shining Sunshine
Banned
Sonic is the best Nintendo mascot.
Hot Coldman
Banned
If we're talking "girls of PlayStation", Lara Croft is the OG.
Um, those two would fit nicely. Both Dead Space and Assassin's Creed have aligned themselves somewhat strongly with the PS3, with bonus content in both series for the platform.
Um, those two would fit nicely. Both Dead Space and Assassin's Creed have aligned themselves somewhat strongly with the PS3, with bonus content in both series for the platform.
Spot on. [brofist]
Napalm_Frank
Member
I think Fat Princess is in cause her creator is working at Superbot or something like that. And believe it or not Kat is perhaps the most requested 1st party character at this point.
AssCreed would be far the least questionable third party rep outside of Heihachi. There's been 2 exclusive entries for Vita, and PSP alongside a tonne of exclusive content on PS3.
Damn it I should have guessed. let me guess. Fat princess is pretty powerful in this game is it not?
Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Sigma 2, and *cough* 3, released on the PlayStation 3.
Sigma was one of the original group of games I bought on my PS3 that year.
I'm a big NG fan, so having Ryu in the game is fine by me.
I frigging loved Gravity Rush, so Kat is an awesome choice.
Some of you guys aren't "PlayStation" fans. You are "3rd party fans." There's nothing wrong with that in any way, shape, or form.
To me, "PlayStation" screams Ape Escape. PaRappa the Rapper. God of War. Uncharted. Ratchet and Clank. Jak and Daxter. LittleBigPlanet. wipEout. Gran Turismo. Patapon. Loco Roco. Sly Cooper. The Mark of Kri. etc.
So many of you cannot let go of the PlayStation 1 era, which was a FANTASTIC era in PS history, but it was not the only era in PlayStation history. There have been 5 PlayStation gaming platforms in 17 years. Each of those platforms have had some great games, with some really likable, iconic characters in their own ways.
3rd party shaped the PlayStation ONE. It gave the platform its street cred. However, with the PlayStation 2, Sony started to take a page from Nintendo's book, and began to lay the groundwork for a strong first and second party stable of characters and franchises. That, to me, was the real "birth" of PlayStation as its own thing.
The PlayStation 3 speaks for itself. Sony has been killing it with strong, quality original IPs and continuations of existing IPs. To me, the PS3 is when Sony completely came into its own in terms of no longer relying on third parties to carry them.
Yes, a celebration of PlayStation isn't complete without a nod to Metal Gear, Devil May Cry, Final Fantasy, and Resident Evil, but if those IP holders are not interested in licensing some of the biggest names from those IPs, or are asking too much to license them, what do you expect Sony to do with a new IP that probably isn't getting an Uncharted or Killzone level budget.
I'd like to see Cloud, Snake, Lara, Crash, and Spyro in this game. They may yet show up at some point. But the roster as is is looking great. I'm stoked and excited for it, because I'm a big fan of Sony's first and second party IPs. Many of you guys aren't, and I get that, but ultimately, that just means this game may not be for you if the roster that is here turns you off that much. Which is a shame, because the actual game play is very fun. To be honest, if this game didn't have these PlayStation all stars, and was all original characters, it would still be a fun 4 player brawler. Power Stone didn't need to have a bunch of known characters to be fun.
PS All Stars has some great characters in it, and some interesting character choices in it, but at the end of the day, it's a well made party brawler that I think, if people give it a chance and play it for more than just 10 minutes, they'll walk away having had a good time.
This game needs a demo, big time. But thankfully, SuperBot said that was in the cards.
Sigma was one of the original group of games I bought on my PS3 that year.
I'm a big NG fan, so having Ryu in the game is fine by me.
I frigging loved Gravity Rush, so Kat is an awesome choice.
Some of you guys aren't "PlayStation" fans. You are "3rd party fans." There's nothing wrong with that in any way, shape, or form.
To me, "PlayStation" screams Ape Escape. PaRappa the Rapper. God of War. Uncharted. Ratchet and Clank. Jak and Daxter. LittleBigPlanet. wipEout. Gran Turismo. Patapon. Loco Roco. Sly Cooper. The Mark of Kri. etc.
So many of you cannot let go of the PlayStation 1 era, which was a FANTASTIC era in PS history, but it was not the only era in PlayStation history. There have been 5 PlayStation gaming platforms in 17 years. Each of those platforms have had some great games, with some really likable, iconic characters in their own ways.
3rd party shaped the PlayStation ONE. It gave the platform its street cred. However, with the PlayStation 2, Sony started to take a page from Nintendo's book, and began to lay the groundwork for a strong first and second party stable of characters and franchises. That, to me, was the real "birth" of PlayStation as its own thing.
The PlayStation 3 speaks for itself. Sony has been killing it with strong, quality original IPs and continuations of existing IPs. To me, the PS3 is when Sony completely came into its own in terms of no longer relying on third parties to carry them.
Yes, a celebration of PlayStation isn't complete without a nod to Metal Gear, Devil May Cry, Final Fantasy, and Resident Evil, but if those IP holders are not interested in licensing some of the biggest names from those IPs, or are asking too much to license them, what do you expect Sony to do with a new IP that probably isn't getting an Uncharted or Killzone level budget.
I'd like to see Cloud, Snake, Lara, Crash, and Spyro in this game. They may yet show up at some point. But the roster as is is looking great. I'm stoked and excited for it, because I'm a big fan of Sony's first and second party IPs. Many of you guys aren't, and I get that, but ultimately, that just means this game may not be for you if the roster that is here turns you off that much. Which is a shame, because the actual game play is very fun. To be honest, if this game didn't have these PlayStation all stars, and was all original characters, it would still be a fun 4 player brawler. Power Stone didn't need to have a bunch of known characters to be fun.
PS All Stars has some great characters in it, and some interesting character choices in it, but at the end of the day, it's a well made party brawler that I think, if people give it a chance and play it for more than just 10 minutes, they'll walk away having had a good time.
This game needs a demo, big time. But thankfully, SuperBot said that was in the cards.
Shhh... truth not welcome here.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
No. And neither are the NG games made by Sega.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Then so do a whole lot of others. Hell the only people who can't be in this game then are Nintendo characters.
Cant wait for the angry birds cameo
Ridiculous.
She's pretty good. All the characters are about on par though. Sly was fucking broken but he got a nerf.
Napalm_Frank
Member
No but Ono told that he would trade Chun-Li to Superbot if Sony gave Seth Killian back lol.
Takamura-San
Member
No Phil Hartman no blasto.
yurinka
Member
The average player doesn't care about it. Only the rabid fanboys care about this "alternate univers", "it's canon or not" stuff.
People will see Dante, the main character of Devil May Cry, the most popular brawler series in the Playstation consoles using the look that he has in the latest game of the IP.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Seth was one of the people who worked on capcoms recent fighting games and is well respected in the FGC
Chuck Norris
Banned
I'd be happy for them to pick as many great characters as possible
What do you know? It will release on Xbox 360? The game is no longer a Playstation exclusive? Spill the beans!
This game is a tribute to fans, isn't it? It's catering to rabid fanboys by showcasing characters only they remember, why else would Parappa, Sir Daniel and Spike be in it?
The game is also a product to sell.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Seeing as the most rabid complaints seem to be coming from casuals about his looks, I'd suggest that's a bit presumptuous.
hey man at least superbot's rendition of ninja theory's dante will be in 60fps
It's for the playstation fans, or people who played games on playstation. So technically speaking any character that appeared on the PS console qualifies.
Also if they really wanted to satisfy rabid fanboys they are not doing a great job. (just look at the PS exclusive rosters)
You know I get what you're trying to convey here. You can't get all the 3rd party characters in that you want. If the company won't allow it, then what can Sony do? That doesn't really bother me. I would have bought this game if it only had Sony characters and no third party.
But if you're gonna have 3rd party characters, get the ones that fit, or don't bother. My annoyance at Ryu ( and Big Daddy) isn't that they got them instead of Cloud or Crash, it's that they are there at all. I'd rather have a smaller roster and them not be included.
A lot of people will agree with me. A lot of people will also disagree with me. However whether you think my opinion is wrong or not, you can at least understand where I'm coming from with wanting character's seen as iconic PlayStation only. You may personally disagree, but just as I get where people who like the 3rd party's are coming from, they should be able to do the same with me and people who share my stance on things
Hot Coldman
Banned
Misleading advertisement, write to your local watchdog
Rated-Rsuperstar
Member
Allstars looks to have the most varied roster I've ever seen in a fighting game. I'm glad I don't get upset over childish things like Dante's hair color or if Ryu has enough Playstation brand loyalty.
Chuck Norris
Banned
Tomb raider for example was always a multiplat. In fact it was originally a time exclusive for Sega Saturn. Yet all and sundry want Lara Croft as a character. Why? Because the stupidity surrounding exclusivity status has only meant anything since you joined a forum. In the real world, it doesn't mean anything.
This I don't understand.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
I'll only be disappointed if sotc/icon isn't represented at all. The cast they have now is very diverse and appear to have very unique playstyles. That's the main thing I'm looking for
fabfour64xx
Banned
A wise demon. Anyways I was just referring to the fact that Sony doesn't have a lot of recognizable characters so they have to reach out to numerous third-party pub. to fill out the roster. We'll see how it shapes up when we have the full roster.
Chuck Norris
Banned
If an independent third party were releasing a fighting game that featured Dante, Kratos, Ryu, Raiden, big daddy, sweet tooth etc. it would be hyped through the roof. You guys need to get your priorities in order.
Black Republican
Member
how about the woman from the Assassins creed vita game?
NoirVisage
Banned
"I want less because ??? and I'm mad"
Because the last thing I want to do when I play this game is be reminded of a game I played on Xbox first. I felt a similar annoyance with Brawl having Snake and Sonic in the roster
He's seemingly immune. Lol. He's been trolling every PBR thread since they announced Dante. It's a shame that he let one character announcement destroy his enjoyment of the game, because, prior to that, he claimed the game was a lot of fun, and he was really enjoying the beta.
The game isn't flawless. It has problems, and it needs balancing and tweaking, but it's not worthy of the unadulterated hatred it seems to be getting from some of the community here. As a Smash Bros fan, I'm excited to see Sony step into this arena of 4 player brawlers. I enjoy these types of games, and it's a bummer that so many others that tried their hand here haven't been able to produce results that were as fun. Thankfully, PBR is fun, and in a different way than Smash. I'll be in line for the next Smash to be sure, but I'm glad that this title is there to ease the pain of that wait.
@ Shahed: I totally understand, and agree on some level, but then, people would just bitch that there wasn't any third party representation at all, and that it wasn't a "true" PlayStation Celebration either way. It's a lose/lose it seems.
At least, the way it is now, we get a Tekken rep, a Devil May Cry rep, a Metal Gear rep, and hopefully a Final Fantasy rep (Lightning I'm sure). I'd rather have those franchises represented in some way, than not represented at all. In this day and age of fighters including many more characters via DLC, I don't really feel as upset by certain popular third parties not showing up on the disc day one as I would have been, say, last generation, when DLC didn't exist for console users.
I'm convinced that, if this game sells well, it will only be a matter of time before Activision, Square, and any other top publisher hold outs get on board and throw their characters in as DLC. It's not an ideal situation, but this entire generation hasn't been an ideal generation as far as DLC is concerned.
Personally, I'd rather have Tifa or Vivi over Cloud, and have never been a big Crash or Spyro guy, but I know others love those characters, and want them in the game, which I understand and support. It's those melodramatic "SuperBot is raping my childhood" level posts that get me.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
But if you ask the average person where the majority of tomb raider games are available, they would say PlayStation.
I'm not a Sony fanboy. I don't think their new IPs this gen have even been that great. But if you create a game that is supposed to be a celebration of the PlayStation brand, I do believe you should use characters synonymous with it.
Dino and Ryu hayabusa are not.
Raiden isn't as much as snake
As a game, purely on its own merits, there is nothing wrong with their inclusion, but the way the package is being marketed and presented to consumers feels false and out of step with what it really is
See above. The point is, that's exactly what this game's feels like but it's being marketed as something entirely different.
I agree with you dude. I don't think a character should be in just because Superbot was able to get them. What Superbot should have done is really hammer hope the 'tribute' angle then when successful a lot of these 3rd party developers would jump on board and allow use of the the Cloud and Crash characters. What they are doing now feels really disingenuous.
I wasn't expecting every character I like to make it but that's fine because it's a new title in a possible franchise, what bothers me is random 3rd party getting in the game while so many first party ones will either be left out or relocated to DLC status.
Simply not true. A lot of average gamers who have played DMC in the past don't follow the popular gaming media outlets. They'll see this dude and not have a clue who he is, nor care about his inclusion.
EDIT: Look at the posts above, why isn't a character like Lara Croft, a veritable slam dunk of a character for including in a game called Playstation All-Stars, not included? That's pretty silly.