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I would not be surprised if future PS consoles run Android some kind of Google OS. I don't see how it is a bad idea. It is obvious Sony needs help on the software side of things.
Callibretto said:no it isn't. the problem with PSP is that for some reason, no one want to buy PSP hardware. the games are not the problem. I've seen so many post saying they wish psp games are on psn instead or that ps3 allow for psp emulation.
The Take Out Bandit said:How is "this this this" not piracy? :|
It doesn't matter what the game is the meme will be "PSP has no games".
Meanwhile everybody is stealing "no games". :lol
I don't see the point of this, but Sony is just crazy town now. Let's just hope that if it's not a new PSP proper, that the stink of it's failure doesn't further reduce the potential appeal of the brand.
On the other hand, for some reason I could see this potentially being appealing to Japan. PSP + mobile phone for playing MOnster Hunter, then tweeting upskirt photos from the subway. </Japan>
gofreak said:Hmmm.
My picture of what Sony is doing is very fuzzy, there seems to be all kinds of apparently conflicting signals.
Vinci said:Nah, you're just adequately reading their minds.
Yep, I'd definitely be interested in the non-phone option. Just having the Android option there is a plus though.PistolGrip said:I think a lot of people fail to realize and Android PSP doesnt have to be a phone.
There could be one with a phone, and one without a phone at different price ranges.
gofreak said:Maybe the PSP-Phone supports Android and PSP2 platforms, but the PSP2 itself has nothing to do with Android? This is perhaps the cleanest explanation. (Though it contradicts parts of Endgadget's rumour about collaborating with Google on the gaming side).
AndyD said:Do you think maybe in a dual boot type method with two OSes one for PSP games one Android? Or are you thinking more that the PSP software runs in Android on dedicated Sony hardware only, thus the need for collaboration?
They could add remote use for the PS3, or the PSN store/Qriocity with the video/music offerings.gofreak said:The other somewhat interesting thing about Nordberg's comments in that video at that link is how much he focuses on entertainment as the differentiator for Sony Ericcsson phones. And how the reason to buy their phone is the exclusive content and applications they can give you access to via their relationship with Sony.
Now, I know they've been building 'walkman' into their phones, but I'm not sure that really qualifies as exclusive content. Building the next-gen playstation portable into some of their phones, on the other hand...that would offer a point of real differentiation, and would certainly boost the claim to be entertainment orientated. And they could possibly do this relatively cheaply if there's a reasonable degree of overlap in the components Sony picks for PSP2 and the components SE might pick for future higher end Android phones.
In that example I'm thinking of separate platforms. However, maybe the 'collaboration' cited in the Engadget article is about building in convenient shortcuts and hooks between the platforms on these phones.
AndyD said:How could you have hooks when only one is booted at a time? Or do you mean read each other's files, as in boot Android and it knows to look at your save files and manage friends lists, trophies, invites...
AndyD said:They could add remote use for the PS3, or the PSN store/Qriocity with the video/music offerings.
gofreak said:The other somewhat interesting thing about Nordberg's comments in that video at that link is how much he focuses on entertainment as the differentiator for Sony Ericcsson phones. And how the reason to buy their phone is the exclusive content and applications they can give you access to via their relationship with Sony.
Now, I know they've been building 'walkman' into their phones, but I'm not sure that really qualifies as exclusive content. Building the next-gen playstation portable into some of their phones, on the other hand...that would offer a point of real differentiation, and would certainly boost the claim to be entertainment orientated. And they could possibly do this relatively cheaply if there's a reasonable degree of overlap in the components Sony picks for PSP2 and the components SE might pick for future higher end Android phones.
In that example I'm thinking of separate platforms. However, maybe the 'collaboration' cited in the Engadget article is about building in convenient shortcuts and hooks between the platforms on these phones.
The Take Out Bandit said:On the other hand, for some reason I could see this potentially being appealing to Japan. PSP + mobile phone for playing MOnster Hunter, then tweeting upskirt photos from the subway. </Japan>
thcsquad said:Yeah, a PSPhone done right could become Japan's version of the iPhone.
spwolf said:they did really well with cybershot and walkman brands in Europe... their problem was that they stopped working on smart phone phones for a while, exactly before they got really popular.
I dont think they can implement Playstation as good as they managed to implement Cybershot and Walkman, without it being worked on by Playstation division.
gofreak said:Stuff like that or simply just shortcutting into a PSP2 game directly. Dunno though, just speculating on what collaboration SE might do with Google if the games platform is unrelated from Android itself.
I think the latter are kind of weak-ish points of differentiation though. Every phone - or at least their big competitor - has music and video services that would offer the same range of content etc.
Anyway, just listening to him talk about that, it's hard for him to sound credible about the advantage of the Sony relationship while Sony's crown jewel - in terms of proprietary entertainment - is off limits to them.
PSGames said:I really doubt they'd be seperate. It would be stupid to not allow easy access to all of Android's features like Maps, Gmail, GPS, Web Browser, etc... I think it would make more sense to skin Android and allow access to PSP2 games from there.
gofreak said:That's what I mean by shortcuts.
I think they might collaborate with Google on modifications to Android to give as seamless access to the PSP2 stuff as possible.
But I mean from beyond the user's perspective, for developers, for Sony, the platforms would be separate. It would run its own OS, have some proprietary hardware requirements etc.
Bitmap Frogs said:Battery is gonna be a concern.
These smartphones are quite hungry already, add in daily gaming and things could get ugly.
Anyways, wait and see.
I NEED SCISSORS said:My Galaxy S lasts way longer than any PSP iteration and the screen is about a million times better.
I NEED SCISSORS said:My Galaxy S lasts way longer than any PSP iteration and the screen is about a million times better.
jonnybryce said:Well where this becomes messy is currently Android must = phone for the Android market and Google apps. Without those things there's little reason to make it run Android.
brain_stew said:In high end 3D games!?
iamaustrian said:yeah but it doesn't when you actually play hardwarehungry games or watch movies.
of course it lasts longer when you use it as a phone.
I NEED SCISSORS said:Didn't consider that
To be fair though, the screen does sap a good 80% of the battery most of the time.
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The iPhone is Japans version of the iPhone. Not a day goes by where one of my friends from Japanese university doesn't switch to an iPhone. Although I could be wrong and maybe it's just the 19-25 yo crowd buying them.thcsquad said:Yeah, a PSPhone done right could become Japan's version of the iPhone.
gofreak said:Maybe the PSP-Phone supports Android and PSP2 platforms, but the PSP2 itself has nothing to do with Android? This is perhaps the cleanest explanation. (Though it contradicts parts of Endgadget's rumour about collaborating with Google on the gaming side).
ivedoneyourmom said:The iPhone is Japans version of the iPhone. Not a day goes by where one of my friends from Japanese university doesn't switch to an iPhone. Although I could be wrong and maybe it's just the 19-25 yo crowd being them.
Jenga said:Makes sense they'd salvage PSP2 into a smart-phone. Honestly, I really don't see how the PSP2 could compete head-on with the 3DS. With the IPhone becoming much less popular as all this new phone competition comes out, I think Sony is acting smart.
It also justifies a high price for a gaming machine. My roommate just spent $300 on an HTC Evo. He'd probably do the same for a PSP2 phone.
Probably the xperia, however I don't know. Never checked, nor do I know anyone with an xperia. I can only guess that, because it seems you are trying to call me out on my anecdotal evidence. However my response will be, are we talking the first gen iPhone, or the 4? It sometimes takes japan a while to warm up to some products.Byakuya769 said:quick question.. which sold better at launch in Japan, the xperia 10 or the iphone?
Jenga said:Makes sense they'd salvage PSP2 into a smart-phone. Honestly, I really don't see how the PSP2 could compete head-on with the 3DS. With the IPhone becoming much less popular as all this new phone competition comes out, I think Sony is acting smart.
Jenga said:Makes sense they'd salvage PSP2 into a smart-phone. Honestly, I really don't see how the PSP2 could compete head-on with the 3DS.
how does thinking the PSP2 cannot compete head-on with the 3ds equal not wanting to be the psp2 to be successful?Kuran said:Why does someone always have to say stuff like this..
Fine, have it your way, no PSP2. Enjoy your 3DS only portable future.
Yes, you're right. I posted these numbers here some time ago:DangerousDave said:We're talking about 60M of consoles. It seems that any amount of sales is a failure if they aren't able to catch the numbers of DS (that is a console with a much bigger target).
What are the max numbers of consoles sold in any non-Nintendo portable consoles? Probably PSP beat the combined sales of all of them.
This deserves a new thread, IMO.Doc Holliday said:
QuiteWhittle said:This deserves a new thread, IMO.