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[Xater]

That is one of the last things I would want a HD port of. :lol

 

[TheSeks]

Well, my point is exactly that though. Is this going to be a HD Classics label PS3-only collection that takes the PS2 originals and re-renders in HD with little else done other than redone 2D on-screen textures and stuff ala God of War Collection? Or will it be an actual "remake" which will carry it's own label and have more work put into it?

Because if it's the former, than honestly, I don't see how it's a great idea because no one really wants the PS2 versions of Splinter Cell, regardless of improved resolution. :lol

Yeah, I know.

I'm crossing my fingers for a proper HD remake that isn't lazily done like the God of War collection (which isn't bad, but yeah... buggy and the cutscenes are blurry messes because they weren't redone. WTF.), because I'd love me some achievement/trophies + HD SC1. :lol

 

[Yazuka]

I'm pretty sure the Prince of Persia Trilogy is a triple-pack box which just includes all 3 games in separate packaging. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Yeah, you are right. You got a paper cover,you could put the seperate packages in but that's the only thing that was new.
But we did also get a box with all the game discs, pack into one packaged here in Europe at least.

 

[Sanic]

Yeah, I would buy this if it was a port of the Xbox/PC version and multiplayer was included.

 

[Pooya]

Yeah, I know.

I'm crossing my fingers for a proper HD remake that isn't lazily done like the God of War collection (which isn't bad, but yeah... buggy and the cutscenes are blurry messes because they weren't redone. WTF.), because I'd love me some achievement/trophies + HD SC1. :lol

yep, trophies are a welcome addition.
SC 1-3 have terrible quality videos (NEWS clips/ CG cutscenes) I don't think they will redo them. SCCT still looks good on PC but videos are just terrible on high resolution displays.

 

[akachan ningen]

They need to get on the Silent Hill 1-4 and MGS 1-3 triologies.

 

[yurinka]

Well, if they are going to port Splinter Cell trilogy, I think it would be smarter from them to port the PC version and release it in HD + trophies for PS3 and 360.

PoP trilogy also would be cool to see it in HD.

And obviously, MGS Trilogy in HD too.

For MGS, I would release another one (or would include in the MGS Trilogy BD) with emulated versions of Peace walker, Portable ops, MGS Acid 1 & 2 and the 2 Metal Gear MSX games. Just dreaming.

 

[duckroll]

Yeah, I know.

I'm crossing my fingers for a proper HD remake that isn't lazily done like the God of War collection (which isn't bad, but yeah... buggy and the cutscenes are blurry messes because they weren't redone. WTF.), because I'd love me some achievement/trophies + HD SC1. :lol

God of War 2 is really, really good because of the lack of FMVs. Everything looks pretty awesome and the game plays well. God of War was really, really lulz. The frequent use of higher resolution "real time" models in FMV form might have worked when it was on the PS2, but on the PS3 it looks like a mess of crap. The real time parts of the game looked way better in comparison. >_<

 

[ULTROS!]

It really sucked that the FMVs of GoW and GoW2 in the GoW Collection are in SD resolution.

 

[Luigiv]

This seems like an odd choice given that they're also doing a port (remake?) of Chaos Theory (by itself) for the 3DS. The Trilogy just sounds like a great way to get SC3DS not to sell.

 

[Ninja Moomin]

In comparison to X-box/PC? Hell yes.

In comparison to Gamecube? Um... yeah.

So long as this is the X-box/PC version redone, DO WANT.

huh... so if they got the 1080p 60fps treatment they'd still be worse? does not compute.

 

[duckroll]

This seems like an odd choice given that they're also doing a port (remake?) of Chaos Theory (by itself) for the 3DS. The Trilogy just sounds like a great way to get SC3DS not to sell.

How's that any different from the portable version of any of Ubisoft's other games? :lol

huh... so if they got the 1080p 60fps treatment they'd still be worse? does not compute.

If they're the PS2 versions? Yes.

 

[Ridley327]

huh... so if they got the 1080p 60fps treatment they'd still be worse? does not compute.

The PS2 versions were broken up into smaller sections and had noticeably worse graphics and effects versus the Xbox/PC version of the same game. Porting those over would be a waste of time.

 

[VALKYRAY]

hope its real. will buy this on day one

 

[Man]

Those games don't fit with "HD Classics" moniker.

Neither HD nor Classics.

 

[Ninja Moomin]

The PS2 versions were broken up into smaller sections and had noticeably worse graphics and effects versus the Xbox/PC version of the same game. Porting those over would be a waste of time.

sure... but these hd classics are hd ports of PS2 games... so it's silly to pretend we're going to get anything else. IMO.

 

[rollingstart]

yeah, I'm sure there are people who would want this, but unlike the God of War or Sly games, you can play these six games on your PC, at full speed, in HD right now. But I wouldn't be surprised if this is PS3 and 360. Probably an ubisoft thing, not a Sony thing.

 

[Luigiv]

How's that any different from the portable version of any of Ubisoft's other games? :lol

Valid point.

 

[duckroll]

yeah, I'm sure there are people who would want this, but unlike the God of War or Sly games, you can play these six games on your PC, at full speed, in HD right now. But I wouldn't be surprised if this is PS3 and 360. Probably an ubisoft thing, not a Sony thing.

Like I said before, if this is an Ubisoft thing which has nothing to do with the actual "rules" of HD Classics, it could be something worthwhile. Otherwise, it would just be another sad joke by Ubisoft.

 

[StealthGoblin]

We could potentially have a slew of these announcements at Gamescom then.

They could have have something like 'After the success of The God of War Trilogy, remastered in stunning HD, we are pleased to announce that several more classic Playstation 2 series will be making their way to Playstation 3. These include:

The Team ICO collection *Andrew House waits for applause* *Applause*
The Splinter Cell Collection *Andrew House waits for applause* *a few claps*
The Sly Collection *Andrew House waits for applause* *Applause*
The Prince of Persia Collecton *Andrew House waits for applause* *Tumbleweed*'

Would be a decent announcement. I'm not sure how well a Splinter Cell collection would do sales wise.

 

[spats]

Played the Splinter Cell games on the pc, and hearing that the ps2 ports were shit doesn't exactly make me want to run out and buy this.

 

[ULTROS!]

Assuming that they're announcing new HD classics on Gamescom, I hope they also announce HD classics on TGS (such as Ico Collection, Kingdom Hearts Collection, Dark Cloud Collection).

 

[Pooya]

I took these shots few months ago, 16xAF, 1x2 SSAA + 4xMSAA.
Splinter Cell Chaos Theory

The game still looks good enough after more than 5 years. First two games not much.

 

[DreadTheUnDead]

kinda ot but I wanna know how to have analogue input on the PC version of CT. to get sam to creep around i end up tapping the button, and it makes him look like a robot instead of a dude stealthing around.

 

[TheSeks]

huh... so if they got the 1080p 60fps treatment they'd still be worse? does not compute.

Probably because you never played the X-box/PC version that had PROPER LIGHTING/shading (the lighting was INSANE for 2003 standards esp. on UE2.0), and level parity. Gamecube comes close in lighting. PS2? :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

But both the Gamecube/PS2 versions had to cut levels due to performance issues. If this is simply the PS2 versions, it's a fucking waste of time and Ubisoft should just cancel it after they're done working on it so they lose a million.

Played the Splinter Cell games on the pc, and hearing that the ps2 ports were shit doesn't exactly make me want to run out and buy this.

The X-box versions were pretty much the PC verisons. Just using a controller.

Frankly, I think most of us in this thread that know what's up are wanting the PC/X-box version on PS3 and not the horribad PS2 versions. :lol

sure... but these hd classics are hd ports of PS2 games... so it's silly to pretend we're going to get anything else. IMO.

And who's to say it's a port of the PS2 version? They could port the X-box or PC verison just fine right now.

There is nothing stipulating that they use the PS2 assets in their "classic" line. Just because Sony is remaking PS2 "classics" with PS2 assets doesn't mean third parties have to do that.

 

[Luigiv]

kinda ot but I wanna know how to have analogue input on the PC version of CT. to get sam to creep around i end up tapping the button, and it makes him look like a robot instead of a dude stealthing around.

Plug in a USB controller?

 

[thuway]

Assuming that they're announcing new HD classics on Gamescom, I hope they also announce HD classics on TGS (such as Ico Collection, Kingdom Hearts Collection, Dark Cloud Collection).

Dream on about Kingdom Hearts.

Also the original Dark Cloud is dated as fuck.

 

[Takao]

Day One for the Petz HD Classics Collection.

 

[DMeisterJ]

These games are not classics.

Metal Gear, Devil May Cry, etc. are moreso classics.

 

[Ridley327]

Sands of Time and Chaos Theory are certainly classics; it's just that if they're PS2 ports, then we definitely aren't getting THE classic Chaos Theory.

 

[RaySpencer]

Hope this is true, except for the PS3 exclusive part, that doesnt make any sense.

 

[TheSeks]

These games are not classics.

You... you...

Ugh...

Urge... to... punch...

The only thing "dated" in them is the storyline/timeline. But the games are classics for being "true stealth" (though SC1-2 having the alarm system also made them HARD) with light and darkness being put into play. There is nothing like sneaking up to a dude and having him not know you're there because you're in the dark. So awesome.

Edit: Actually, fuck it. First time your tag comes into use:

DMeisterJ
D is for Dumbass, M is for Makes terrible posts, J is for JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY

:lol

 

[brain_stew]

sure... but these hd classics are hd ports of PS2 games... so it's silly to pretend we're going to get anything else. IMO.

Porting the PS2 versions would be a a lot more work than porting the PC versions and lead to a terrible end result, it'd just make no sense at all.

For those that aren't aware, the PC version of Chaos Theory is a pretty huge upgrade over even the Xbox version, HDR lighting, soft shadows, much better resolution textures, its tech. is pretty similar to early generation PS3 games tbh.

 

[Pooya]

These games are not classics.
.

:lol :lol SC1 and SCCT are definitely classics.

 

[Polk]

Porting the PS2 versions would be a a lot more work than porting the PC versions and lead to a terrible end result, it'd just make no sense at all.

Unless Sony is helping with this remakes.

 

[LordPhoque]

These games are not classics.

 

[brain_stew]

Unless Sony is helping with this remakes.

Even then, the PS2 was an unwieldy beast, coding for that machine is nothing like coding for a modern system. The PC versions were aimed at GPUs just like RSX and the game was never CPU heavy so just just quickly porting over the single threaded x86 code to PowerPC shouldn't be too much of a hassle. It just makes no sense porting anything other than the PC code.

 

[Suzzopher]

HD Chaos Theory would be amazing. As long as it's PC or Xbox version. The PS2/Gamecube versions were bad.

 

[brain_stew]

The X-box versions were pretty much the PC verisons. Just using a controller.

.

That may have been the case for the first two games (I'm a little unsure on that) barring the usual image quality differences of course but its definitely not the case for Chaos Theory, not at all. There certainly wasn't any HDR lighting in the Xbox version for starters. I seriously doubt it had parrallax mapping and soft shadowing either considering they required SM 3.0 hardware on the PC.

 

[Stop It]

These games are not classics.

Metal Gear, Devil May Cry, etc. are moreso classics.

Must...not...quote...tag...damnit.

Well, as long as the games are ported from the PC editions (Chaos Theory especially) then not much will need to be done to make them into HD because all 3 are UT 2.5 and are fully widescreen capable.

That said, I would love to see the 3 first games re-created in the Conviction engine, but that is clearly asking too much.

That may have been the case for the first two games (I'm a little unsure on that) barring the usual image quality differences of course but its definitely not the case for Chaos Theory, not at all. There certainly wasn't any HDR lighting in the Xbox version for starters. I seriously doubt it had parrallax mapping and soft shadowing either considering they required SM 3.0 hardware on the PC.

Actually, Chaos Theory on Xbox looked remarkably good, especially on 360 vis BC. It was like playing the game on Pixel Shader 1.1, but a few gfx tricks aside, it looked much better than you might expect.

 

[Ridley327]

Well, the Conviction engine is still UE2.5. :lol :lol :lol

 

[rollingstart]

kinda ot but I wanna know how to have analogue input on the PC version of CT. to get sam to creep around i end up tapping the button, and it makes him look like a robot instead of a dude stealthing around.

the scroll wheel adjusts your movement speed in the PC splinter cell games

 

[brain_stew]

Actually, Chaos Theory on Xbox looked remarkably good, especially on 360 vis BC. It was like playing the game on Pixel Shader 1.1, but a few gfx tricks aside, it looked much better than you might expect.

Oh no, I'm not debating that at all, it was probably the most impressive Xbox release there was, and yeah, it packed all the effects of the shader model 1.1 PC version which was quite a feat. Though once you add in the higher resolution textures and the SM 3.0 effects then the PC version is quite leap above even that. Like I said, the technology in the PC version of Chaos Theory is pretty much on par with early generation PS3 titles.

 

[SolidusDave]

If they use the Xbox/PC versions is wouldn't really make sense to call it PS2 classics nor would it make sense to only release it on the PS3.

 

[Kagari]

Amazon France seems suspicious to me.

Just before E3 some tantalising game entries appeared that didn't materialise at E3 and have yet to show. Indeed I think one of them was explicitly denied (the Quantic Dream one).

Maybe there's a troll at Amazon, looking to excite - and then disappoint - PS3 owners?

Funny thing is, most of those have been removed now.

 

[Panipal2009]

We could potentially have a slew of these announcements at Gamescom then.

They could have have something like 'After the success of The God of War Trilogy, remastered in stunning HD, we are pleased to announce that several more classic Playstation 2 series will be making their way to Playstation 3. These include:

The Team ICO collection *Andrew House waits for applause* *Applause*
The Splinter Cell Collection *Andrew House waits for applause* *a few claps*
The Sly Collection *Andrew House waits for applause* *Applause*
The Prince of Persia Collecton *Andrew House waits for applause* *Tumbleweed*'

The Fatal Frame collection. I'd applaud.

 

[badcrumble]

I've been interested to see when Sony would more formally launch the whole HD Classics thing that is so clearly in the works at this point. If this is true, it's great to see third parties getting on board this early.

 

[ULTROS!]

Funny thing is, most of those have been removed now.

Actually, Horizon (QD game) and Uncharted 3 are still there.

You should check this out Kagari, I have no idea what this is :lol: http://translate.google.com/transla...glish-books&qid=1281191314&sr=8-2&sl=fr&tl=en

 

[Unregistered007]

I never got into Splinter Cell, only played the first one for about an hour, so this might be a good way to start. I'm not sure how well these games might have aged though.

Beyond Good and Evil, Ubisoft - DO IT!
Maybe even Rayman 2 - all more obvious remakes than Splinter Cell in my opinion.

Its not publisher or anyone else's problem if you skip on awesome games.

 

[Lard]

Another Ubisoft compilation? They haven't even released that Rabbids trilogy disc.

I'm waiting for Rayman.