Great to see Steam catching up to Xbone
Hopefully Valve will start charging for multiplayer soon.
Yeah, but unfortunately Steam then made the change from Buying to Borrowing in the ToS. So technically they only let you borrow the games you purchase, I think to prevent legal stuff from biting them in their ass
Steam is probably doing this because of Microsoft...
Oh look, taking a digital copy of a game and giving it MORE freedom.
Are you paying attention Microsoft?
There is a difference and that difference is context. Context matters, always, regardless of how desperately some of you may struggle to argue otherwise.There is no difference. That's the problem with most posts in this thread. The feature is the same. It's like people don't know how (or want to) separate the bad from the good when it comes to the X1. The 24 hour policy is shit. It shouldn't exist. The game sharing thing is great in theory but people can't seem to separate the two. It's the same thing with Sony charging for online now but in reverse. They announced the used games thing and slid the charging for online part in there and no one really noticed because of how huge the used games announcement was.
There is no difference. That's the problem with most posts in this thread. The feature is the same. It's like people don't know how (or want to) separate the bad from the good when it comes to the X1. The 24 hour policy is shit. It shouldn't exist. The game sharing thing is great in theory but people can't seem to separate the two. It's the same thing with Sony charging for online now but in reverse. They announced the used games thing and slid the charging for online part in there and no one really noticed because of how huge the used games announcement was.
No, you still can't justify it. Dedicated servers are nice, but if Sony and MS want to charge for them, they should still offer a free multiplayer option over a P2P connection, like they did with current consoles.At least you can justify paying for online next-generation.
Both companies are ponying up for huge am mounts of dedicated servers, and you get free games every month as well.
This generation I judged you negatively if you paid for live.
Steam is probably doing this because of Microsoft...
That's about right.
Buying and reselling any form of digital software is perfectly legal, the Court of Justice of the European Union has ruled. Software authors or in the gaming world, publishers can not stop customers from reselling their games, even if the publisher attaches an End User License Agreement prohibiting resale.
I would like to personally thank Microsoft (edit: and the European courts) for this.
Finally my wife and I can play on my steam account, online, at the same time.
.....if true.
More likely due to your edit than Microsoft.
Time to start a rental service.
Oh look, taking a digital copy of a game and giving it MORE freedom.
Are you paying attention Microsoft?
Oh look, taking a digital copy of a game and giving it MORE freedom.
Are you paying attention Microsoft?
This is going to be awesome. Really curious what sorts of limitations it will have.
Are you calling the company that locks the player out of his games library if he disagrees with the updated terms of service "pro-consumer"? LMAO.There is a difference and that difference is context. Context matters, always, regardless of how desperately some of you may struggle to argue otherwise.
The "subtle" variation in context here is open platforms vs closed ones and a proven track record to be pro-consumer with long term policies vs a certain tendency to fuck people over and over.
But we already had this conversation a million times in the past weeks with that bullshit comparison "XBOX ONE is just like Steam" so I'm not really going to dive into another one.
Steam vs. Xbone?
Did Valve just challenged MS?
Its more likely in response to the European courts ruling that consumers have the right to sell or trade their software licences.
Buying and reselling any form of digital software is perfectly legal, the Court of Justice of the European Union has ruled. Software authors or in the gaming world, publishers can not stop customers from reselling their games, even if the publisher attaches an End User License Agreement prohibiting resale.
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/07/03/eu-court-rules-its-legal-to-resell-digital-games-software/
Midtown Madness 2 had restrictive DRM back in 2000. Can't find any info but I remember my friend being unable to install or play after I had installed on my comp first.At least CD keys were still transferable before Steam. These days, once you register a Steam key to an account, it's locked to it forever.
Igo said:This game borrowing shit doesn't go far enough. I won't be completely happy until I can unlink my game/key from steam and sell it privately.
Uhh MS is doing this before Valve ever talked about it.
Well Xbox no longer supports sharing games so I guess Steam can cancel this feature.
Well Xbox no longer supports sharing games so I guess Steam can cancel this feature.
Well Xbox no longer supports sharing games so I guess Steam can cancel this feature.
What a roller coaster this generation is turning out to be.
Um, Microsoft allow sharing with 10 people, with 2 playing at the same time.
There is no difference. That's the problem with most posts in this thread. The feature is the same. It's like people don't know how (or want to) separate the bad from the good when it comes to the X1. The 24 hour policy is shit. It shouldn't exist. The game sharing thing is great in theory but people can't seem to separate the two. It's the same thing with Sony charging for online now but in reverse. They announced the used games thing and slid the charging for online part in there and no one really noticed because of how huge the used games announcement was.
Well Xbox no longer supports sharing games so I guess Steam can cancel this feature.
So, if I get a hamburguer it's the same no matter if I came from having steak or having rat meat?
Steam: upgrade
XB1: downgrade (speaking of physical games)
EDIT: NVM I guess, lmao.
Please linky!
Well Xbox no longer supports sharing games so I guess Steam can cancel this feature.
I hope one day we'll be able to trade our games(in the library) for steam wallet credits
It would make me feel bad for that OCD guy who got so pissed about one game that he had that he recreated and rebought his entire Steam account.
It would make me feel bad for that OCD guy who got so pissed about one game that he had that he recreated and rebought his entire Steam account.