Zen_Arcade
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The only bad part about that Froakie final evo is how stupid his head looks. The head looks nothing like a frog. It's all angular.
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I would disagree.
MrCookiepants
Member
It's his tongue!
From what I read in that thread he was assuming there was only 70 new pokemon. o: Basing it on where the legendarys were in the dex. Also, maybe he meant in his opinion there wasn't much of a post game? xD
The way he was talking about the dex, kinda makes it seem like he was lying.
Shouldn't he be able to know for sure, if he has the national dex already? Pretty sure Xerneas wouldn't be numberd as 715 or 716 if he only has the regional.
So, either he's lying, or it's just an assumption. I'm leaning toward lying.
The way he was talking about the dex, kinda makes it seem like he was lying.
Shouldn't he be able to know for sure, if he has the national dex already? Pretty sure Xerneas wouldn't be numberd as 715 or 716 if he only has the regional.
So, either he's lying, or it's just an assumption. I'm leaning toward lying.
Or maybe I'm in denial. ;~;
It's a competition between grenfrog and lickitung to see who can have their tongue out the longest lol.
Zoramon089
Banned
You guys believe fakes too easily
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I skimmed most of posts here since I got spoiled by my friend based on 70 new pokemon, but I hope that it's fake. I'm more likely not coming back to this thread after this post.
Yeah, I agreed.
I think yall are spoiled. I'm pretty sure that they are referring 70 new pokemon on PokeDex. However it seem that people forget the fact that Mega Evolution Pokemons are more likely to not be recorded on PokeDex so we could get more than 30 Mega Evolution for old pokemon. I would like to guess that we might reach about 50 new mega evolution for old pokemon so that would push us over 100 new pokemon.
Yeah, I agreed.
I think yall are spoiled. I'm pretty sure that they are referring 70 new pokemon on PokeDex. However it seem that people forget the fact that Mega Evolution Pokemons are more likely to not be recorded on PokeDex so we could get more than 30 Mega Evolution for old pokemon. I would like to guess that we might reach about 50 new mega evolution for old pokemon so that would push us over 100 new pokemon.
Sure.
Charlie0108
Member
The more I think about it the less likely I see there only bring 70 new Pokemon, I mean, we've seen 42 Pokemon so far. Now if we include supposed evolutions that's another 12-13 odd Pokemon meaning that there is only 15 odd Pokemon that are completely unrelated to anything we've seen so far. Now, where does that leave space to fill the variety of different areas we can see clearly on the map? Where are the Ice types that will inhabit the snowy area, where are the ground and rock Pokemon that will live in the desert? Does this means that the only new Pokemon we find on grassy routes all game are Skiddo, Bunnelby and the like?
DragonKnight
Member
I hope this is fake cuz i want at least 100 new pokes. But your argument holds very little weight. Look my at avatar for example. GF does what GF wants.
From what I read in that thread he was assuming there was only 70 new pokemon. o: Basing it on where the legendarys were in the dex. Also, maybe he meant in his opinion there wasn't much of a post game? xD
The way he was talking about the dex, kinda makes it seem like he was lying.
Shouldn't he be able to know for sure, if he has the national dex already? Pretty sure Xerneas wouldn't be numberd as 715 or 716 if he only has the regional.
The national Dex only shows you the highest number pokemon you've seen in the pokedex.
Why's that?
I'd rather be on the more side than the less side. I don't like mega evolutions (I dislike most of the pokemon they are giving it to, especially mewtwo), so if they are using those as the filler I will be angry, and that on top of the no 3D overworld and the lack of a postgame.
Well... It's already confirmed that there will be a LOT of old pokemons in the wirld from the start... :S
StreetsAhead
Member
Unlike BW, old Pokemon will be found from the beginning.
Oh? o: Huh.. Well, then nevermind. xD Guess I was over thinking it then.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
Looks way too angular, whereas Froakie and Froakie2 look rounded.
DragonKnight
Member
You are forgetting that this game isnt BW. A whole new 150 isnt the gimmick here. In fact, it will probably have a fuck ton of pokes from all gens as evidenced by the trailer. They should have no problem filling out regions in this case.
That said, im hoping for at least a hundred not counting megas. Megas arent new pokes dammnit and id hate to know over half the pokedex already. Pretty underwhelming dex if true.
Charlie0108
Member
I know that, but creating all these new environments only to fill them with older Pokemon seems strange to me.
While I am not going to loose my mind over it only being just 70, I think it would be better if there were more pokemon in the region, I feel like that what really separates a region. And along with that I would want to see more artistic exploration in the region, I would be fine with 100 new pokemon in this evolved art style.
But that is just me
peanutbutterlatte
Member
Yeah but they're in 3D for the first time. Pretty big deal.
DragonKnight
Member
Did you miss gen 2?
Dr. Buni
Member
Guys, Gen IV brought us no much more than 70 new Pokémon, if you ignore evolutions and pre-evolutions (which would be the Mega Evolutions in Gen VI). Johto introduced us to no more than 100 species. I don't think 70 new in Gen VI is that unlikely to happen. If anything, what the ~~~leaker~~~ said about the post game is what we should be worried about.
I see. Well, 100 would the perfect number for me, but 150 is just... ugh. Both Gen I and V brought us 150 Pokémon and those generations are the ones to have, by far, the biggest amount of filler/useless/uninteresting Pokémon. In my opinion, of course.
Why do people keep ignoring that Gen V was marketed as "a fresh start", not having old Pokémon catch-able in the game, so they needed to create a lot of new ones to fill the dex. The exactly opposite is valid for Gen VI, the game supposedly will have a shitload of old Pokémon available.
I see. Well, 100 would the perfect number for me, but 150 is just... ugh. Both Gen I and V brought us 150 Pokémon and those generations are the ones to have, by far, the biggest amount of filler/useless/uninteresting Pokémon. In my opinion, of course.
Why do people keep ignoring that Gen V was marketed as "a fresh start", not having old Pokémon catch-able in the game, so they needed to create a lot of new ones to fill the dex. The exactly opposite is valid for Gen VI, the game supposedly will have a shitload of old Pokémon available.
Mega evo's while I enjoy them are just add ons to older pokemon.
I would like to see more from an artistic perspective, I view pokemon as a very profitable art project. They are creating a world filled with new organisms and species that inhabit it. And have their own place in the world. So for me, the more the merrier. If my need to see as much artistic expansion as possible makes me spoiled, I'm spoiled.
Charlie0108
Member
Doesn't mean they should take priority over the new ones.
No, but that was 15 years ago. Would have thought they'd realised how dire it was having a new region filled with old Pokemon after that.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
You are forgetting that X/Y is their first main pokemon game in 3D, so it's pretty new for the company. It's easy to expected that they would have low amount of new pokemon because they are focusing on reviving old pokemons with Mega Evolution. Of course, I'm pretty sure that PokeDEX don't really count Mega Pokemon because they are not actually evolution so we are more likely to get more than 30 Mega Pokemon so that would get us over 100 pokemon.
Like I said to other people,
I'm pretty sure that they are referring 70 new pokemon on PokeDex. However it seem that people forget the fact that Mega Evolution Pokemons are more likely to not be recorded on PokeDex so we could get more than 30 Mega Evolution for old pokemon. I would like to guess that we might reach about 50 new mega evolution for old pokemon so that would push us over 100 new pokemon.
DragonKnight
Member
Uh it kinda has to be. You can bet your ass the dex will have at least 400 pokes. More if you read into mitsudas recent statements. Even with 100 new pokes the rest has come from oldies.
ColtraineGF
Member
Filling in regions with old Pokemon is no indication of a low dex count.
Also, I'd argue that Megas are not new Pokemon. Formes aren't, so why these?
New count for each gen:
G2: 100
G3: 135
G4: 107
G5: 156
70 would be odd.
Also, I'd argue that Megas are not new Pokemon. Formes aren't, so why these?
New count for each gen:
G2: 100
G3: 135
G4: 107
G5: 156
70 would be odd.
While I dissagree with you in gen 5, I will agree with you in gen 1. Farfetch'd is just a bird with a leek. I do not .. I just cant even.
" Farfetch'd is my favorite pokemon"
That confuses the hell out of me.
I was referring to the fact there weren't many any Gen 2 Pokemon in Jhoto
My expectations of the post game aren't very high to begin with.
DragonKnight
Member
Megas are not new pokemon. And during their E3 roundtable GF listed having 150 (basically a high number) pokes as sort of a staple for each new gen.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I guess so, but while dragonite is a pretty drastic change the froakie final has stayed pretty much the same style wise.
Dunno, just throwing my guesses in.
DragonKnight
Member
You cant count megas as new pokemon. If they hold no new pokedex entries they are not new pokemon. They are powered up forms. Think shaymin S.
i heard that the final evos leaked, can someone just link me to them? I don't want to get spoiled on anything else, so I'd rather not browse the thread.
They didn't.
Dr. Buni
Member
I can say the same about the amount of new Pokémon.
That only proves that even numbered generations bring a lower amount of Pokémon, which is a good reason for people not expect 150 new Pokémon again. 70 is definitely odd, but not impossible, specially if there isn't cross-gen evolutions this time. Again, Gens II and IV introduced very few Pokémon when you ignore cross gen evolutions.
Also, formes technically aren't new Pokémon, but they are marketed as such. Keldeo's Resolution forme was teased as "new Pokémon", so they Game Freak may have the idea of Mega Evolutions being, in fact, new Pokémon.
DragonKnight
Member
Probably sounds like im contradicting myself since im pushing for many new pokes but if there is one thing ive learned it is that fans get way too caught up with precedents. Every gen GF has bucked trends time and time again. They do what they want for better or worse.