Getting a Krogan as a MC is almost certainly a lot more work than any other species.
Oops forgot about that. Meant spectre. There are so few N7 operatives that I mentally just combine the term.
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Getting a Krogan as a MC is almost certainly a lot more work than any other species.
Oops forgot about that. Meant spectre. There are so few N7 operatives that I mentally just combine the term.
Atraveller
Banned
A spec ops branch, I think.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
It is. It expanded to "N7 Special Ops" for the Reaper war, and the multiplayer notes that N7 units now train other species. But doesn't say they officially become N7.
As Jarmel said it would a clean way of moving the lore forward though. I could see post-war N7 being a military designation that includes all manner of species, and if the protagonist is N7 again (hence the "What does N7 mean to you?" question) they could get away with having Human/Turian/Asari/Salarian being the primary species.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
True but that's kind of the point, for gameplay reasons at least, it'll give you more of a reason to try them out and will provide more variety between gameplay sections of different campaigns. If you want to do it the lazy or rather easier way then yeah you'd ignore them, but there's if your going to add more playable races you might as well do it right and add interesting gameplay implications, rather just humans in another skin.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure post-Reaper invasion there would be greater emphasis placed on cohesion throughout the galaxy among the races, thus things like the Systems Alliance may no longer exist in favor on one all encompassing galactic government. Thus, N7 could simply be co-opted into this new Galactic Federation.
Night Hunter
Banned
Okay, didn't know that as I never played ME3 Multiplayer. But good to know, now it all makes a little more sense.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
honestly prefer spectre to N7 but it seems more likely they'll stick with it since they have N7 day and all that merchandising, still spectre seemed like a more neutral rank rather than the more systems alliance focused N7, but I guess they'll use Shepard and Anderson to elevate it, to galaxy wide recognition.
They might make your species go through N7 training/final course as an introductory level then once you complete it, you do a mission and become a Spectre(or hold off on the Spectre designation for awhile). It could be some sort of commentary on how humans are more accepting of aliens into their culture if this is a sequel.
This is Bioware. Set your expectations to rockbottom at the door. I highly doubt we're even going to get different starting areas for each race despite that being a great way of introducing the alien cultures.
I could see them actually going that route as it would be a natural conclusion after the Battle of Earth (or whatever the proper name for it is). Having one unified military in case of another Reaper invasion sounds logical.
No? In fact a vast majority of the fanbases probably prefers it. Easier to relate.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
True but they already have the baseline from ME3 multiplayer, this game is from the folks that made that multiplayer mostly, and it worked really well with the krogans. It's not that much of stretch to think they could make a game with them since this dev team seems a lot more gameplay and encounter focused as shown by, the Omega DLC and ME3 multi.
I honestly don't think it's that much of a stretch unless they really don't want to try. I honestly think gameplay wise the multiplayer was well made so I actually have good expectations in regards to that. The story not so much.
You are definitely in the majority. GAF is just picky.
Gozer the Gozerian
Member
So if you can play as an alien does that mean we'll finally cross the barrier into full on turian-salarian romance sex scenes?
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Krogans and Turians are pretty much awesome tier in regards gameplay and classes (using entirely ME3 multi experience here) I could live without the rest aside from humans, dam those N7 classes were just too good.
Garrus left C-Sec because he couldn't get anything done.
AuthenticM
Member
I want Laura Bailey to voice the next protagonist.
dr_rus
Member
That would be a very strange place to spend resources on in a TPS. And for them to make an RPG again they'd better start with the basics and not different playable races.
Weird, I consider Quarians and Krogan in essence the most interesting species. One a sentient pest that nobody wants, the other a nomadic spacefaring tribe forced in exile by their servants. Though their stereotypical characterizations may have underserved them. Still much more interesting than Turians and Asari (basically funny looking humans).
Boring Member
They are both forgettable, thus the need for them to be replaced by better/more relevant/iconic races.
anexanhume
Member
Elcor get no love.
Boring Member
They are both forgettable, thus the need for them to be replaced by better/more relevant/iconic races.
Elcors and Hanars are even more forgettable than Quarians or Krogans, who both had major roles in the trilogy, yet I don't see people asking them to be removed.
How am i boring in my post exactly? Because I don't think they're gonna remove major races? lol
Rahhh. HAHA!
Playable races should be selected based on the niche they fill.
Humans: Well rounded vanilla flavor. approved
Turians: Boring as hell military humans. denied
Krogans: Comical militants that can easily be 'good' or 'evil.' approved
Quarians: DENIED
Asari: Hentai headed candy for some. Biotic demons for others. approved
Salarian: Hyperactive lizards with a penchant for tech. approved
That leaves a slot or two for a new species. approved
*Dark horse species that would be fantastic: Volus. Lots of room to play with the story and it could be part of an enhanced difficulty package. The Volus would play fairly differently than all the other species and the limited health/shields would add a level of difficulty to single player. After so much MP the SP is a joke.
SkullHydra
Member
Your tag dude. =P
I am super interested in seeing what the team does, as multiplayer was far and away the best part of ME3. I hope they keep the difficulty level high, but I'd like to see them drop the random crates thing and give you some more options for getting gear and unlocks. The grind was a real slog in that game.
I'd even be okay with just having a currency you can grind out to buy individual specific unlocks versus the crate system.
I'm also curious as to how far they go with their multiplayer this time around. I would love it if they had some kind of metagame layered on top of it, to where playing individual maps contributed to something more than just your singleplayer readiness goal - some kind of campaign where you play through a few challenge maps for unique unlocks or stuff like that.
That being said, I'm happy they are leaning towards a sequel instead of a prequel.
EDIT: I want an Elcor mount to ride into battle.
I'd even be okay with just having a currency you can grind out to buy individual specific unlocks versus the crate system.
I'm also curious as to how far they go with their multiplayer this time around. I would love it if they had some kind of metagame layered on top of it, to where playing individual maps contributed to something more than just your singleplayer readiness goal - some kind of campaign where you play through a few challenge maps for unique unlocks or stuff like that.
That being said, I'm happy they are leaning towards a sequel instead of a prequel.
EDIT: I want an Elcor mount to ride into battle.
infiniteheteroskdasticity
Member
Interesting. I've heard of these focus test events before. Assassin's Creed 2 was tested on random gamers by showing them an assassin running around rennnessaince Italy some time before the game was revealed. I'd say this is a pretty good indication on where things are headed for ME4.
Definitely sounds like a sequel. I think it would make the most sense to set it a long time after the events of ME3. This would let them start fresh and not have to worry about accounting for decisions made by players in the first trilogy. Attempting to have save games from the first trilogy count would be stupid and result in a massive mess of a game. Pick canon on all the things that would matter a thousand years after those events is the way to go.
They could go two ways for multiple playable races. They could do the skryrim approach that has players build a completely customized character or they could do the Gta 5 thing where you get to play as multiple protagonists. I'm actually more of a fan of the second approach because that really highlights the differences between the races.
I also want space combat and exploration.
Definitely sounds like a sequel. I think it would make the most sense to set it a long time after the events of ME3. This would let them start fresh and not have to worry about accounting for decisions made by players in the first trilogy. Attempting to have save games from the first trilogy count would be stupid and result in a massive mess of a game. Pick canon on all the things that would matter a thousand years after those events is the way to go.
They could go two ways for multiple playable races. They could do the skryrim approach that has players build a completely customized character or they could do the Gta 5 thing where you get to play as multiple protagonists. I'm actually more of a fan of the second approach because that really highlights the differences between the races.
I also want space combat and exploration.
I know its my tag, but why doing a copy/paste of it when my post wasn't boring to begin with?
People do that sometimes, and I still don't get it.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Too much bureaucracy e.g boring.
Maybe not if you enjoys writing lots of paperwork in games.
I know its my tag, but why doing a copy/paste of it when my post wasn't boring to begin with?
People do that sometimes, and I still don't get it.
I was just making a joke based on the fact that a user with the tag Boring Member like the most boring races in Mass Effect. I thought you would get it. >_>
Who said anything about giving up on introducing the Raloi?
I choose the latter for better story perspective and meaning choice. The former is kinda stupid, and changing race feel doesn't really matter that much aside from stats since the change is miniscule.
But... i don't find the Krogans boring at all!
Asaris though... They're sexy blue women with tentacles on their head, and that's all they got.
Nobody, but first they removed the Raloi from the Citadel during Mass Effect 3, now they're showing 2 entirely new species instead of showing one that's being teased since Mass Effect 2's daily news.
It sure doesn't look like they're interested in showing them.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
But they're mercenaries and work at strip clubs mannn.... you can't go messing with peoples waifu's.
So I was thinking about whether this should be a sequel, prequel, midquel. And I figured, why not all at the same time? Go all David Lynch on our ass and thereby salvage the original series.
So destruction is the canonical ending, but Shepard as he blows up the catalyst, gets hit by the space magic and gleans the future, while simultaneously becoming a transcendental being. Turns out the Reapers were actually made to keep the Leviathans in check. Unbridled, the take over the world and destroy all of life, not just the sentient ones. So Shepard, being transcendental is able to project himself into the past, without being able to actually physically influence it. Turns out he was actually The Illusive Man all along, or at least the one indoctrinating TIM, trying to push Shepard into choosing control. Only of course he fails, so now you are a new person, who has to find a remaing catalyst piece and sacrifice yourself, so you can astrally project yourself and try to indoctrinate Anderson into stopping Shepard from killing TIM.
No?
Please?
Oh all right.
So destruction is the canonical ending, but Shepard as he blows up the catalyst, gets hit by the space magic and gleans the future, while simultaneously becoming a transcendental being. Turns out the Reapers were actually made to keep the Leviathans in check. Unbridled, the take over the world and destroy all of life, not just the sentient ones. So Shepard, being transcendental is able to project himself into the past, without being able to actually physically influence it. Turns out he was actually The Illusive Man all along, or at least the one indoctrinating TIM, trying to push Shepard into choosing control. Only of course he fails, so now you are a new person, who has to find a remaing catalyst piece and sacrifice yourself, so you can astrally project yourself and try to indoctrinate Anderson into stopping Shepard from killing TIM.
No?
Please?
Oh all right.
Doesn't mean they won't show up in the next game.
Also the people calling the krogan "boring" or that they should be written off the next game: your opinion is bad and you should feel bad.
I think this is an overly dramatic exaggeration, not to mention a grossly unfair slight to people that work hard bringing these games to life. Grow up.
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
I vote Humans and Asari
Winterfang
Banned
Might as well then make it a free indie game, because nobody is going to buy that shit.
Err, this is a bit dramatic for what was a harmless drive-by comment.
Bioware has not been churning out trash--DA2 was close--but there has been a sharp decline in quality in some areas that I feel justifies the essence of his (admittedly glib) comment.
A product may be sub-par no matter how hard its creators worked.
Ya think? I stand by my comment. There's no need to trash everyone who worked on it feel crap because the end result was "sub-par" as you say - the point can still be made without being a dick about it.
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
Come to think of it, has any sci-fi game with nothing but aliens ever been successful? Abe's Oddyssey is the only thing that jumps into my head, and I have no clue how successful any of the Oddworld titles have ever been.