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[Crisis]

It would be funny if its free to chat but you can only start or be invited by a premium member. Then as long as one of your friends is a premium it works.

I could see this applied to other stuff too like voice messages. Free to listen but pay to send.

Great way to lure more people into it too when they first hand experience some of the benefits.

I think that's what they're going to do.

 

[polyh3dron]

TEN US DOLLARS

 

[Kazuma Kiryu]

:lol :lol

 

[Shinriji]

Yesterday, with the new SSF4 patch, a new option to invite was created.

"Invite friend ID
Invite players met
Invite chat room"

And that option was disabled yesterday. Hmmm....

 

[Firewire]

TEN US DOLLARS

Nowadays $10 doesn't get you crap.


$100 or Sony am bust.

 

[darkjedi187]

as long as they keep the free service, I'll be ok.

 

[Salaadin]

Is that price confirmed or is that still just speculation?

 

[Paznos]

lol that's great! I can't wait

 

[TTP]

Yesterday, with the new SSF4 patch, a new option to invite was created.

"Invite friend ID
Invite players met
Invite chat room"

And that option was disabled yesterday. Hmmm....

Probably because you were not into a text chat room when you checked it the second time. It's an old feature actually which allows to invite everybody in an active chat room.

 

[Lagspike_exe]

Is that price confirmed or is that still just speculation?

The price speculation comes from the survey Sony conducted earlier this year.

 

[AndyD]

I think that's what they're going to do.

That would actually be nice. That way you don't have a complete separation. The question is now cross game chat vs. parties and party chat. Or if they allow free to chat 1 to 1 and premium up to 4-8.

 

[Salaadin]

The price speculation comes from the survey Sony conducted earlier this year.

Ok. Thanks. Only a little more time to go!

 

[xero273]

Yesterday, with the new SSF4 patch, a new option to invite was created.

"Invite friend ID
Invite players met
Invite chat room"

And that option was disabled yesterday. Hmmm....

I thought you could already do that. At least on the gaf chat, you can invite everyone in that room.

 

[navanman]

Damn you and the cock teases.

Please tell me!

 

[spats]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBLnOlzowYY

 

[BobTheFork]

I'm interested to see what they think they can offer that is worth the price. The problem I have is there ARE going to try to convince you to buy this and that means giving it something the free service SHOULD have or buy removing something we use now. I have to be cynical but there isn't anything they could possibly offer to make me pay even a penny of extra money each month.

 

[Lagspike_exe]

Everything will stay the same for PSN members. No worries about that.

Actually, they will get something extra for free thanks to PSN+ members.

I should stop now...

So..... is it worth it?

 

[Pimpwerx]

Wow! So Sony is actually going with a premium service too? I think it's time I finally sold my PS3 and bought a Wii. I haven't played this thing in months anyway.

What inspired this decision of theirs? Was PSN becoming that much of a drain on them? I found that PSN got me to buy tons of games. I bought almost all the weekly releases for a while, and considered subscribing to Qore. The demos got me to buy a couple disc games, though their demo release policy was crap then. I don't like the idea of a premium service. I figure Sony owns so much media that they should be making a killing on movie and music sales through the store. PEACE.

 

[Cruzader]

I wont pay for another Qore sub, instead opt for PSN+.

They should either get rid of Qore or add it for free for PSN+ members. Not sure who the hell would pay for both nor for Qore itself(after PSN+ is revealed that is) as its a shit service.

 

[Issun23]

Wow! So Sony is actually going with a premium service too? I think it's time I finally sold my PS3 and bought a Wii. I haven't played this thing in months anyway.

What inspired this decision of theirs? Was PSN becoming that much of a drain on them? I found that PSN got me to buy tons of games. I bought almost all the weekly releases for a while, and considered subscribing to Qore. The demos got me to buy a couple disc games, though their demo release policy was crap then. I don't like the idea of a premium service. I figure Sony owns so much media that they should be making a killing on movie and music sales through the store. PEACE.

Apparently the new service won't affect the existing model.

 

[InfiniteNine]

Wow! So Sony is actually going with a premium service too? I think it's time I finally sold my PS3 and bought a Wii. I haven't played this thing in months anyway.

What inspired this decision of theirs? Was PSN becoming that much of a drain on them? I found that PSN got me to buy tons of games. I bought almost all the weekly releases for a while, and considered subscribing to Qore. The demos got me to buy a couple disc games, though their demo release policy was crap then. I don't like the idea of a premium service. I figure Sony owns so much media that they should be making a killing on movie and music sales through the store. PEACE.

PSN is still free for online games. PSN+ just adds more features on top of it.

 

[Sapiens]

Wow! So Sony is actually going with a premium service too? I think it's time I finally sold my PS3 and bought a Wii. I haven't played this thing in months anyway.

What inspired this decision of theirs? Was PSN becoming that much of a drain on them? I found that PSN got me to buy tons of games. I bought almost all the weekly releases for a while, and considered subscribing to Qore. The demos got me to buy a couple disc games, though their demo release policy was crap then. I don't like the idea of a premium service. I figure Sony owns so much media that they should be making a killing on movie and music sales through the store. PEACE.

PSN will stay the same. They're just adding extra stuff for premium people.


If this is the same price as XBL, I'm in. If it's more, I won't bother, and I'll keep the same functionality I have now.

 

[Lagspike_exe]

Wow! So Sony is actually going with a premium service too? I think it's time I finally sold my PS3 and bought a Wii. I haven't played this thing in months anyway.

What inspired this decision of theirs? Was PSN becoming that much of a drain on them? I found that PSN got me to buy tons of games. I bought almost all the weekly releases for a while, and considered subscribing to Qore. The demos got me to buy a couple disc games, though their demo release policy was crap then. I don't like the idea of a premium service. I figure Sony owns so much media that they should be making a killing on movie and music sales through the store. PEACE.

Read what TTP wrote. The PSN stays exactly the same for those who don't want Premium.

 

[AndyD]

I'm interested to see what they think they can offer that is worth the price. The problem I have is there ARE going to try to convince you to buy this and that means giving it something the free service SHOULD have or buy removing something we use now. I have to be cynical but there isn't anything they could possibly offer to make me pay even a penny of extra money each month.

They already said no removing several times. So your other suggestion that they will charge for something we want but don't have makes sense.

There are a few things I would want and be willing to pay for as long as its reasonable.

- Cloud saves for all games, universal. No more worries of transfers from one console to another when I upgrade, or move saves with USB drives in my house between units.
- Voice messages to friends 10-30 second limit or so.
- Native Netflix app on the XMB (superfluous fo rme now because our new Tivo works great and does search without a need for a que)
- Widgets and other apps.
- a fully working Firefox/Opera/Chrome browser (Chrome makes sense since the Google/Sony announcement)
- a fully working media manager a la Boxee that works with DLNA and also external hard drives. I would gladly pay a one time fee to have my PS3 have a very nice media manager that can pick up my terrabyte server with all my music, movies, TV shows and pictures.

There are many other things, but these are some of my non gaming related ones.

 

[BobTheFork]

Apparently the new service won't affect the existing model.

LOL he knows that, it's posted all over the thread. It;s going to be a loose talking point for awhile "Sony is charging now, fail" '


Edit: yeah I think I remember hearing the voice messages and it sounded like the worst idea they had yet. Seriously what is the point? Somehow you can't just talk to the other person or send then text but stopping and recording a 30 second message fore them to hear later is a better option. : (

 

[mauaus]

This is what im most excited/worried about from the sony conf

 

[Azrael]

DROP THE BOMB TTP!

My educated guess is demos for all new PSN games.

 

[InfiniteNine]

This is what im most excited/worried about from the sony conf

Don't be! I'm sure they will have cake.

 

[BobTheFork]

My educated guess is demos for all new PSN games.

I don't see how that would benefit people without the service (as he mentioned)

 

[Kazuma Kiryu]

Wow! So Sony is actually going with a premium service too? I think it's time I finally sold my PS3 and bought a Wii. I haven't played this thing in months anyway.

What inspired this decision of theirs? Was PSN becoming that much of a drain on them? I found that PSN got me to buy tons of games. I bought almost all the weekly releases for a while, and considered subscribing to Qore. The demos got me to buy a couple disc games, though their demo release policy was crap then. I don't like the idea of a premium service. I figure Sony owns so much media that they should be making a killing on movie and music sales through the store. PEACE.

read the last few posts next time :lol

 

[Danielsan]

My educated guess is demos for all new PSN games.

Would be bleh.
I want at least the subscription fee worth of free psn games and PSP games playable on the PS3.
They really need to do something special to make me pay for additional features.
I'm perfectly content with the online service as it is.

 

[gofreak]

My educated guess is demos for all new PSN games.

The most logical thing is that if x-game chat is in PSN+, non-PSN+ people will also be able to participate in it, but not be able to instigate a x-game chat session or host one. PSN+ people will be able to start/host a chat session with any PSN member, but not vice versa.

It addresses the whole 'lol, x-game chat only with psn+ people? lol' concern.

 

[Zombie James]

Wow! So Sony is actually going with a premium service too? I think it's time I finally sold my PS3 and bought a Wii. I haven't played this thing in months anyway.

What inspired this decision of theirs? Was PSN becoming that much of a drain on them? I found that PSN got me to buy tons of games. I bought almost all the weekly releases for a while, and considered subscribing to Qore. The demos got me to buy a couple disc games, though their demo release policy was crap then. I don't like the idea of a premium service. I figure Sony owns so much media that they should be making a killing on movie and music sales through the store. PEACE.

Online gaming and every service you use now will still be free (and apparently there'll be other additions, according to TTP ), so I wouldn't worry at all.

About the bolded part, maybe they would make more money on their movies if they would fucking release their video service in Canada already. Damn it, Sony.

 

[edgefusion]

I look forward to Sony announcing this to uproarious cheers and clapping from the "journalists" in attendance. If the Microsoft conference yesterday taught me anything those guys will cheer anything, they're like a bunch of seals.

 

[-PXG-]

TTP, you motherfucker :lol

 

[MrPliskin]

I look forward to Sony announcing this to uproarious cheers and clapping from the "journalists" in attendance. If the Microsoft conference yesterday taught me anything those guys will cheer anything, they're like a bunch of seals.

I dunno, sounded more like 30% of the audience was cheering, the rest were just blank.

 

[AndyD]

I look forward to Sony announcing this to uproarious cheers and clapping from the "journalists" in attendance. If the Microsoft conference yesterday taught me anything those guys will cheer anything, they're like a bunch of seals.

I dont know man, the only serious claps were at GoW3 and at the end when everyone got a free 360. Other than that it was very weak compared to other years.

 

[navanman]

The most logical thing is that if x-game chat is in PSN+, non-PSN+ people will also be able to participate in it, but not be able to instigate a x-game chat session or host one. PSN+ people will be able to start/host a chat session with any PSN member, but not vice versa.

It addresses the whole 'lol, x-game chat only with psn+ people? lol' concern.

That sounds totally logical and makes complete sense but this is GAF so it must be untrue.

 

[Goldrusher]

Wow! So Sony is actually going with a premium service too? I think it's time I finally sold my PS3 and bought a Wii. I haven't played this thing in months anyway.

What inspired this decision of theirs? Was PSN becoming that much of a drain on them? I found that PSN got me to buy tons of games. I bought almost all the weekly releases for a while, and considered subscribing to Qore. The demos got me to buy a couple disc games, though their demo release policy was crap then. I don't like the idea of a premium service. I figure Sony owns so much media that they should be making a killing on movie and music sales through the store. PEACE.

 

[Karma]

The most logical thing is that if x-game chat is in PSN+, non-PSN+ people will also be able to participate in it, but not be able to instigate a x-game chat session or host one. PSN+ people will be able to start/host a chat session with any PSN member, but not vice versa.

It addresses the whole 'lol, x-game chat only with psn+ people? lol' concern.

Unless 2 non PSN+ people want to chat.

 

[slider]

Unless 2 non PSN+ people want to chat.

That's stating the obvious isn't it?

 

[MrPliskin]

I don't think he was trying to troll, I just thing he was completely unaware and really didn't follow anything about this.

It would help if people would save a few minutes (and some face) to simply read the thread, then they wouldn't get laughed at.

 

[pancakesandsex]

Yesterday, with the new SSF4 patch, a new option to invite was created.

"Invite friend ID
Invite players met
Invite chat room"

And that option was disabled yesterday. Hmmm....

That option is there to invite an entire text chat to your SF4 room. It's not disabled, you just weren't in a text chat at the time.

 

[kassatsu]

Unless they handle demos a new way. I don't see how all psn games would have them. It is a matter of priorities for devs.

 

[Crisis]

I don't think he was trying to troll, I just thing he was completely unaware and really didn't follow anything about this.

It would help if people would save a few minutes (and some face) to simply read the thread, then they wouldn't get laughed at.

That would require Pimpwerx to know what he was talking about.

 

[Ninja Moomin]

I wouldn't pay for any of that

guess what? you don't have to?

 

[gofreak]

Unless 2 non PSN+ people want to chat.

Obviously. Unless you got a friendly PSN+ third party to host a chat where the two of you could come together (assuming it is party chat). The thing people were saying though was if PSN+ could only x-game chat with other PSN+ people it would be rather limited if few on your friends list had it...

 

[Kittonwy]

I look forward to Sony announcing this to uproarious cheers and clapping from the "journalists" in attendance. If the Microsoft conference yesterday taught me anything those guys will cheer anything, they're like a bunch of seals.

Seals aren't stupid, this will happen only if Sony gives out free PS3s.

 

[Karma]

That's stating the obvious isn't it?

I thought he was trying to address the problem of people complaining about paying for cross game chat. If that is the case his solution doesnt work.

The thing people were saying though was if PSN+ could only x-game chat with other PSN+ people it would be rather limited if few on your friends list had it...

Now it makes sense. It does fix that.

 

[jett]

I had forgotten about these PSN+ shenanigans. Don't drop the ball Sony.