Lord Error
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That sounds so scarily ominous coming from you... (Quaz is the 'pixel counter guy' for those who don't know)
If that's the case, I just don't get why. 32MB EDRAM should eat through that resolution with large amounts of AA.
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RUMOUR: Wii U specs leaked?
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If that's the case, I just don't get why. 32MB EDRAM should eat through that resolution with large amounts of AA.
ThatObviousUser
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* Flash storage.
** USB hard drives and SD cards acceptable.
We've known about both of those since last E3.
The Dutch Slayer
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No digital out :/
No LAN :/
No big hd :/
No LAN :/
No big hd :/
Pikmin was a Wii game that was switched over to Wii U. ZombiU is Killer Freaks that switched from an arcade shooter to a survival horror zombie game. Not exactly great examples of long term stable development HD titles.
Vire
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That's pathetic. So much for DLC, or downloadable games.
specialguy
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I'm not seeing even 1.5GB RAM in these Wii U games (mainly only Zombie U I guess to go on, and that Lego disaster).
So I'm wondering if there's some type of really bad bottleneck(s) preventing that RAM from even really being used, maybe this is just early software, maybe the OS is eating up an insane amount...
The dev in the IGN survey who talked of complexities, plus my own opinion that Nintendo engineering is terrible, makes me suspect.
So I'm wondering if there's some type of really bad bottleneck(s) preventing that RAM from even really being used, maybe this is just early software, maybe the OS is eating up an insane amount...
The dev in the IGN survey who talked of complexities, plus my own opinion that Nintendo engineering is terrible, makes me suspect.
Haven't people in this thread been saying that the OS eats up like 500MB or something? Wouldn't the controller screen also take up a good chunk?
fly high ~ayunite~
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Are you familiar with USB storage devices? You can get a 1TB USB drive for $80 on Amazon and use that if you wish.
It's probably something like half being allocated to the OS so it's fully functional while the game is running + some assbackery with design decisions.
Vire
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Developers aren't going to assume everyone has an eighty dollar flash drive. It should be built into the system for fucks sake it's 2012.
That's the thing. Imagine the IQ if you can see aliasing in a press conference stream. I only really noticed it during the Batman demo.
ThatObviousUser
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Iwata's said all retail games will also be downloadable from launch day.
doesn't seem to hurt MS when half their consoles only have 4GB that can be safely assumed exists
AlexMeloche
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Uuhh... ever heard of the 360 Arcade? This is way better. >.>
GoldenEye 007
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Digital out? Isn't there HDMI?
Ethernet is a bummer I guess, but I pretty much live in a wireless world. That's fine so long as you have a good router. Plus, you can get a USB-Ethernet adapter and use that to get a wired connection if it is needed.
HD? Why pay for an overpriced Nintendo one, like MSFT has done? They're cheap and plentiful and can be easily tucked away.
Always-honest
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No, a bad stream can make jaggies that aren't there.
Mickdundee96
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I bought a 4gig xbox360 in 2012 for my brother.
sevenchaos
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fly high ~ayunite~
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It is just not Gamecube backwards compatible.
andthebeatgoeson
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I think Ninty could do better explaining this but thier inability to talk about specs hurts them. Even 8GBs should be decent in the beginning for some downloads but if games hit 25 GBs for ports, it'll leave people in a bind. I wonder why they didn't go for 25/50 GB. Couldn't be that hard now. Probably is a tough number to hit, as it's unusual.
I'll get a big USB HD and go with that. I appreciate not being raped by a $100 HD and options.
ThatObviousUser
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As far as I can tell it's the first console with 100% backwards-compatibility. Wii couldn't support the GameCube's GameBoy Player, PS3 didn't support the USB hard drive (I think?), maybe I'm missing some others. But Wii U is 100% compatible with all Wii games and peripherals.
I wouldn't say guaranteed. Not forcing a hard drive offered Microsoft a significant cost advantage over the PS3, there's no reason that won't happen again next gen. Specially with faster Blu-ray drives.
It hasnt effected xbox so i dont see how it will effect ninty, the fact you can use a usb storage device makes it the best of them all imho.
Lord Error
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Zombi U you saw on their conference was staged CG trailer. ZombiU the game... does not look good. Pikmin 3 was the best looking game they showed.
Would you rather the console cost an extra hundred dollars making the barrier of entry higher, resulting in less sales and with it less third party support?
Shalashaska161
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If the system really does have these specs then none of the games really showed it. Pikmin looks like a slighly improved Wii game, which makes sense considering it's development, but it was the best looking thing we saw. The system should be able to run circles around current gen with these specs but nothing like that was even shown.
Brad Grenz
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Yeah, if you had shown me the actual ZombiU gameplay and told me it was the first Condemned game I would have believed you. I can't believe all the bullshit CG simulated gameplay they've put out, going back to Killer Freaks last year.
PdotMichael
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ThatObviousUser
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I'm having a hard time imagining which ones don't work since no game peripheral attaches to the Wii console itself... maybe the Rock Band USB dongles?
fly high ~ayunite~
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I don't get the storage complaints. All Wii U retails game will be released as digital downloads from launch and 3DS games from August. Countless pieces of DLC, nearly 200 WiiWare games and 400 VirtualWare games have been released for Wii (a console with 512mb of internal memory). I don't think it's a problem for publishers. Beats the $99 20GB 360 hard drive MS offered at launch.
You can plug in your own USB HDD, and they'll probably have Nintendo-branded HDDs, too, for an "extra cost." 8GBs is terrible, but it's not like that's a limiting factor.
I still think that most games will target 720p, so this is kind of moot.
That statement is redundant.
Sho_Nuff82
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MS will probably ship their next console without a mandatory hdd as well. As long as Nintendo lets you use any HDD for DLC/DD games/saves, it's really a moot point.
Yeah, and for a system that'll be targeting 720p, those specs seem like plenty to me.
Grampa Simpson
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I should have been more clear - it was simply an example. They weren't using AA because they instead choose to use the limited resources for things like lighting, etc.
That's the point.
DeFiBkIlLeR
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I think the very small form factor of the WiiU is why Nintendo haven't released clock speeds on the CPU & GPU.
I bet they've had to dial the frequencies down into the high 2Ghz range for the CPU, and 500-700Mhz for the GPU in order to keep the temps down.
I bet they've had to dial the frequencies down into the high 2Ghz range for the CPU, and 500-700Mhz for the GPU in order to keep the temps down.
That's probably the one, yeah.
I want to know now. Now. Now now now now now.
Also, what does this mean? In Pikmin terms.
GoldenEye 007
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HDMI carries audio. And quite well I hear.
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