Earthbound64
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Also, for anyone upset by this, at least it's a like-for-like type of situation, and not a "Buy 'EA Sports My First Playground Sports Game' if you want a chance at getting 'EA Sports Real Sports Game'" situation or something.
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Sakamoto: Want more 2D Metroid? Buy Samus Returns
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You're not interested in playing Metroid period then since no Nintendo system supports trophies natively?
Also hard mode is in the base game. It's an extra hard mode that's locked behind amiibo... Still a terrible move by Nintendo, but yeah.
JershJopstin
Banned
Buying the game without buying the amiibo isn't exactly supporting the amiibo implementation though.
Could you elaborate on that?
Colonel Mustard
Banned
Before Samus returns:
"Why doesn't Nintendo do anything substantial with Amiibo?"
After Samus Returns:
"Oh my god, why is Nintendo doing something substantial with Amiibo?!"
Yeah, I'm buying the game and no Amiibo, unless I can find one on discount. Some ultra hard mode is pretty irrelevant to my enjoyment of the game and I would like future 2D installments.
"Why doesn't Nintendo do anything substantial with Amiibo?"
After Samus Returns:
"Oh my god, why is Nintendo doing something substantial with Amiibo?!"
Yeah, I'm buying the game and no Amiibo, unless I can find one on discount. Some ultra hard mode is pretty irrelevant to my enjoyment of the game and I would like future 2D installments.
Well he's not wrong. This ain't some bullshit test like "buy this completely unrelated game to get the game you actually want." It being a very loose remake, your personal preference of frame-rate, your 3DS allergy* or your opinion about the amiibo policy doesn't make Samus Returns not a 2D Metroid game.
The truth of the matter is that if something doesn't sell that well there won't be much justification for further development; the anger towards Sakamoto's quote seems to be stemming from a weird need to not own up to that fact. It's gone from, in the Amiibo thread, "no Nintendo will know Metroid failed because of Amiibo!" to, in the thread where that's proven wrong, "I never even cared about Metroid anyway it deserves to die ~baka~"
*Seriously, get that checked out. My cousin died from an allergic reaction to the 3DS' 240p screen, if left untested it might happen to you as well.
The truth of the matter is that if something doesn't sell that well there won't be much justification for further development; the anger towards Sakamoto's quote seems to be stemming from a weird need to not own up to that fact. It's gone from, in the Amiibo thread, "no Nintendo will know Metroid failed because of Amiibo!" to, in the thread where that's proven wrong, "I never even cared about Metroid anyway it deserves to die ~baka~"
*Seriously, get that checked out. My cousin died from an allergic reaction to the 3DS' 240p screen, if left untested it might happen to you as well.
This is the first I've heard of it?
Some of the posts in this thread are fucking ridiculous. 'Hostage to sales'. Are you serious? And ffs, everyone who owns a Switch wants the game on Switch. But the game has been in development for years. It's not going to happen. No point punishing this game for that.
Already pre-ordered.
Already pre-ordered.
What?
Astral Dog
Member
Insecure fanboys hurt by Sakamoto despite he behind the best 2D Metroid games, an Amiibos
Like this, not that i blame them too much, but thankfully Nintendo gave him another (small) chance
Another M?
hardcastlemccormick
Banned
These are probably different sets of gamers. I know for sure I don't ever want Nintendo doing anything substantial with Amiibo.
Yeah I'm not sympathetic to the 3DS whiners. I have a high end PC and like to crank up the ganes, but for Metroid? I want it, I'll play it. If the game sucks or runs really badly, like 20 fps then I get the complaints, but it's a perfectly fine system.
Astral Dog
Member
Want to play Samus Returns? Buy a 3DS
see how does that work 
Triforce141
Member
Tanabe's producing Prime 4, and people already have beef with him for Federation Force and Sylux
foxuzamaki
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What? How does that not come across that way? Are blind, or calling us stupid?
Look at the neoGAF numbers instead... It was an already made thing I found.
Eolz
Member
Wait, why are people upset by this?
This is not like a Capcom test situation (Wii/Switch/Darkstalkers flashbacks), this is just the reality of how franchises work.
It looks to be a great remake, which is something that was probably approved after seeing good sales of 2D Metroid games on Virtual Console. It makes sense.
Doubt that the next 2D Metroid would be after Fusion though lol.
Thanks for the info. I didn't know it was an extra hard mode. I do kind of care less about that now.
I'm hoping they unveil something similar or better than trophies at some point, to be honest. I even bought a Switch knowing my disdain for lack of trophies. I will make exceptions for really good games like BotW though.
I guess you're right. It still feels like it would be supporting it indirectly though. I actually don't care too much anymore knowing it's an extra hard mode I probably wouldn't play anyway. I thought non amiibo owners only had 1 difficulty mode.
Lots of folks looking at the title and not bothering to read the article ITT.
Would get it to support it and because I love the Metroid series, but I don't like it being 30fps and on the 3DS (cramps my hands). 3 games out of the 13 in the series are 30fps so not a bad track record, but 60fps makes a big difference in one of the most important mechanics of what makes Metroid great; how Samus feels to control, with tight platforming and reduced input lag. I assume the game is 30fps from all the footage Nintendo have released anyway.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
The quote is so short tho, like i read the whole quote because it could be done in like 2 seconds that's how short it is
Mercury Steam made their Castlevania game under the direction of Konami, who was rebooting Castlevania into actiony Lords of Shadow garbage.
Samus Returns is under the direction of Nintendo and is lovingly recreating and improving a game in classic Metroid Style. The game looks great so far and the visuals are wonderful, especially with 3D on.
It doesn't seem like they're really playing that up at all with what they've shown for the storytelling. This is really going back to how they handled the story in Zero Mission, which was rather minimalist compared to Fusion and especially Other M.
Earthbound64
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Stairouais
Member
I wonder how people reacted when they announced that metroid 2 was a gameboy exclusive.
Many fans are still really mad at Sakamoto to the point where they always make sure to read whatever he says in the worst light possible.
It's pretty embarrassing at this point.
AmayaPapaya
Banned
LOL. That amiibo isn't gonna be infamous because of the content locked behind it, but because of fans trying to kill the franchise over a difficulty mode that never appeared in a Metroid game before it (yet some still see it as content that was taken out of the main game). I doubt anyone who was actually excited for Metroid Samus Returns wouldn't buy it for something silly like that, though. Those people probably wouldn't have bought it in the first place, with or without the amiibo, frankly.
Yea that's what I'm happy to see.
I'm mostly talking about stuff like the heels added to samus's boots, and some other minor details.
Aizo
Banned
A used dumpster.
So it's basically "Hey guys, if you want more Metroid, buy a remake of Metroid II on our old hardware. Want more features? Better get that Amiibo!" Come on.
Yup. I just got done selling off all my 3DS stuff this past weekend. I still have a J-New 3DS, but I'm pretty much done buying stuff for that platform.
Yup. I just got done selling off all my 3DS stuff this past weekend. I still have a J-New 3DS, but I'm pretty much done buying stuff for that platform.
John Dunbar
correct about everything
i'll buy 2d metroid when they make a 2d metroid and not that hideous 2.5d shit.
mocolostrocolos
Member
Can't say anything else atm.
If you choose to believe me or not, you may wanna check some messages i've been posting for a while regarding certain Metroid II remake that turned out to be true.
rochellepaws
Member
Dog shit pressed into a disc shape.
Nice. That's one positive thing from this thread.
NipplesAndToes23
Member
This gets said a lot in this industry.
NipplesAndToes23
Member
Me either, I'm broke. They going to cut off my phone tomorrow.
The heels we're on the suit in Prime as well. Not saying that justifies it, but don't act like this is something new.
But it actually looks fine?
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