All I take from this is that there was definitely, probably some collusion and/or mild treason.
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Sally Yates testifies before Senate subcmte re: Flynn/Russ today 2:30EST (livestream)
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I don't see how much more information one can convey about this beyond "GOP asked her why she didn't uphold the travel ban" in at least 20 different ways. Beyond that, you got the meat of the hearing in her attempt to warn the White House about Flynn and some attempts at asking Clapper about the possible WH leaker, not necessarily the leaks themselves.
KernelPanic
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People need to keep in mind that there's an active investigation into the current POTUS and many others connected to him.
That takes time and the case has to be airtight.
If they prosecute and it gets thrown out of court or they lose it will play right into his hands that this is just a hit job by Democrats because they lost.
Trying really hard to keep my expectations in check. I sooooo want Trump to completely implode.
I know this is stupid but goddamn do I hate that these ugly looking political memes have made it here.
Perd Hapley
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The investigation will not take three years. But it's only been a little over three months since inauguration. This is not very much time at all when talking about a (clearly) massive investigation. Anybody who expected it to be over by now was always rushing it.
This man does not get to talk about where tax payer's dollars go.
Prof. Bathtub
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The perpetual N.W.C.o.T. vs. These Things Take Time exchanges can be a bit tiresome. However, I do think people should be aware of what kind of information comes from each development on a case-by-case basis. We have to dig for the truth before justice can served, but we can also be advocates for a more powerful investigation.
Jorok Goldblade
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Eric Trump is the spitting image of inbred European royalty.
Bruce Springsteen
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He's not lying about this being a waste of money
EatinOlives
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"When will the taxpayer funded charade end?"
I dunno Donny, when are you going to stop going to your shitty golf resort in Floriday every goddamn weekend?
TestOfTide
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Oh don't worry. Trump heard us loud and clear. Besides, it's getting too warm in Florida.
So now for the summer, Trump will be instead going to his shitty golf course in New Jersey every goddamn weekend.
But I looked it up in the dictionary and it says "noun 1. Republican Party and everything it stands for or does circa 2017" Says it all, I think.
Definitely. But, the ray of hope is that the unmasking was already done by the intelligence agency in order to provide context as both Yates and Clapper said is done sometimes. However, I'm pretty sure that was lost on almost every single Republican.
What, precisely?
Billy_Pilgrim
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Full on Habsburg.
At least you're more transparent than the administration
TestOfTide
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So research into how Russia is undermining western democracy as well as promoting actual fake news and figuring out how to combat this is a waste of money according to you?
FYI, this Russia investigation isn't just about Trump. It's also about how Russia is turning the factuality of news into a goddamn battlefield.
Ah I can't be mad, if anybody knows about wasting tax payer's money, it's Trump.
Bruce Springsteen
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What did we learn from Clapper?
I wonder what his Mar a Lago travel costs alone are going to be like by the end of his term
TestOfTide
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That all the data collected on Trump and his associates under the Obama administration was collected completely legally.
That the IC needs funding to start combating Russia's fake news efforts.
That Clapper was one of the people that LEGALLY unmasked Trump and/or someone(s) associated with Trump.
ZombiePlatypus
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Misogynists that found Hilary "shrill."
Bruce Springsteen
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Meaning, what did Clapper or Yates say that wasn't already known? We already knew before this dog and pony show that she warned the White House about Flynn. There is no evidence of Trump/Russia collusion which every intelligence agency has already repeatedly said
Let's see what the FBI says at the end of their investigation, that is what I'm interested in. That's all I have to say about this matter
EatinOlives
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I never said it would take 3 years. I'm speculating that Trump isn't leaving until his term is over. No impeachment, no resignation, no jailing. Do I think there was some collusion with Russia? Absolutely I do. Do I think this will be thrown out eventually or he'll have patsies that will take the fall for him? Yes, I have a hunch this is more likely than any punishment he will face.
TestOfTide
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Except we know from the press that the FBI already has damning evidence on Trump's associates with regards to Russia.
The FBI has simply not stated or leaked if they have the smoking gun on Trump himself yet.
Even IF Trump doesn't get thrown in jail before his term ends, his blatant violations of the emoluments clause are already enough to jail him as soon as he leaves office.
KernelPanic
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There is no non-classified evidence of collusion.
This is so sad on so many levels.
Prof. Bathtub
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Actually, did GOP Senators/Reps repeatedly state that they have seen proof of criminal wrongdoing during Ben G. or Email related investigations? I don't know, I'd would assume so but I'm not certain how BOTH SIDES the respective statements have been.
PepsimanVsJoe
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Who would be willing to take the fall for him?
Bruce Springsteen
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We shall see, I'm not denying that either. That's why I say let's wait to see what the FBI have found
TestOfTide
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Don't even give bruce that. There is absolutely evidence we know of that implicates Trump's associates with Russia.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
I'm disappointed that a mod hasn't changed your user name yet.
You're not worthy and the real Bruce would be disgusted.
That's all you've done is deny anything is there because of no end game.
I'm sure there's someone that would with the right deal struck
DrForester
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I kind of wish she had ended every sentence with "bitch" when responding to Cruz and Cornyn.
Bruce Springsteen
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Cruz is a clown who wasn't even worthy of a response
TheLostBigBoss
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This panel was worth it just to watch an old man fumble with technology and button pushing
whitemex88
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is there somewhere i can get the quick details on what was said and happened?
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
I'm not sure we're allowed to show you unclassified information.
I hate my senators.
Kennedy was so oblivious to how stupid he sounds with that line
Oh my god guys his twitter banner.
Holy shit I legitimately thought they photoshopped one guy over a dozen times. It took me a solid 30 seconds to realize those were all different people.
Wait what? I posted just earlier today of a house intel committee member directly saying on CNN they have evidence of ties between Trumps team and Family and Russia. Stronger than whats unclass.
https://youtu.be/NISyX6FnoR4
Its amazing how fast you all try to spin Clappers words and leave out the part where he says his knowledge only extends to inauguration day. Basic reasoning says during the transition they obviously didn't have the scope of evidence they have now and werent able to specifically identify what he was doing. Now the case has progressed to the point were they aren't even accepting deals for his testimony.
You can easily tell who's actually following and understanding this and who's just springing to say the latest talking point. The first paragraph reads like its from Spicer himself.
ugaboga232
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He also noted the trump business is tied up in an investigation with Russia. There were a lot of hints and it moves the ball forward in the court of public opinion on the Flynn issue which by itself can do lots of damage because it ties in Pence and Trump directly given what we already know. The Senate (i think it was the senate could have been the house investigation) has put a deadline for tomorrow for some info from page, manafort, flynn and then another deadline the 19th which could result in subpoenas. Things probably won't quiet down for a while on this.
everyday math
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You posted a banned link. Should probably get something else in there.