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SCII: Heart of the Swarm screens [Previews/Vids, Development Fully Started This Year]
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MisterAnderson
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Mister Wilhelm said:
Yeah since they suck so much right now, right? Lulz.
Really exciting to see the upgrade/RPG system they are aiming for by customizing Kerrigan's abilities/loadouts and having her as a hero unit in the campaign. Really looking forward to this and hoping they actually are able to go somewhere with the story that sets up for something great in Legacy of the Void.
The story will not be about hive minds chatting through telepathic nodes with a bunch of slime everywhere. Kerrigan will be the Raynor of this story, the "playable" character. She'll control a small faction of Zerg through her own human looking interface, not some slimy eXistenZ veins.
Also notice how bare her outfit looks. As the game progresses, she's gonna be upgradable. A loot whore perhaps?
Also notice how bare her outfit looks. As the game progresses, she's gonna be upgradable. A loot whore perhaps?
BrokenEchelon
Banned
The ice levels/environments look nice. I was so disappointed by the story in WoL that I have a very sour taste left in my mouth, so I'm not exactly eagerly anticipating this anymore.
ElectricBlue187
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Hes just a regular joe who had to overcome crushing westfall poverty in his youth to ascend to greatness. It's a message to every girl and boy, if you work hard enough one day you too can become the Lich Kinghamchan said:
Starcraft + Broodwar was the best story and characters that Blizzard ever created. Everything since has been worse. However, the campaign was relatively standard fare for the time.
Starcraft II Wings of Liberty had the most fun RTS campaign Blizzard has made yet, but the story and dialogue was really bad. Heart of the Swarm looks like it could be an even more fun RTS campaign, with story and dialogue equally as mediocre as Wings of Liberty.
If only they could combine the writing of Starcraft Broodwar with the level design and game mechanics of Starcraft II, we would've had the perfect RTS singleplayer
That said, Starcraft II is still the best RTS multiplayer out there.
Starcraft II Wings of Liberty had the most fun RTS campaign Blizzard has made yet, but the story and dialogue was really bad. Heart of the Swarm looks like it could be an even more fun RTS campaign, with story and dialogue equally as mediocre as Wings of Liberty.
If only they could combine the writing of Starcraft Broodwar with the level design and game mechanics of Starcraft II, we would've had the perfect RTS singleplayer
That said, Starcraft II is still the best RTS multiplayer out there.
fizzelopeguss
Banned
Ho-ho-horrendous
Go back, re-play it, and realize how b-grade campy it still is. Blizzard have crafted ridiculous stories over and over again so I have no idea why people are crying foul over some dialogue in the screenshots.Zzoram said:
This is similar to the whole feeling from WoW when you could finally defeat Arthas; everyone and their dog wanted to kill him and I kept wondering why they were so obsessed with it all since his "path to corruption" was as hokey as they get. WC3 & Frozen Thrones were filled to the brim with silly tales.
fizzelopeguss
Banned
There's cheese, and then there's smegma.
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Deleted member 17706
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Yoshichan said:
I agree. The individual scenarios and the progression stuff was a ton of fun. I played through the campaign three times, and I usually ignore campaigns in RTS games. The story was pretty damn awful, sure, but the gameplay was a blast.
Truth.speedpop said:
But I love me some B-grade campiness.
That aside, something about the shading/texture work on Kerrigan is really offputting. Like it's only marginally better than the prerendered scenes from Starcraft 1. Obviously, it's way more than marginally better, but still. Eurgh.
Baraka in the White House
2-Terms of Kombat
I'm not about hand Blizzard any awards for unique or captivating storytelling but calling WoL awful and terrible while holding up the original as some kind of example to aspire to is patently ridiculous.
Anything is good. As long as they have each other to bounce their ideas off of. Sometimes, you just need someone to tell you something is a bit too hokey.Nirolak said:
My main problem with WoL is the fact that nothing you do has any affect on the universe whatsoever, aside from the last missions. I can't believe you go through like 10 missions to out Mengsk as a corrupt ruler, the last one having everyone revolt. Then at the end of the credits, it says "Mengsk is still secure on the throne." REALLY? Not even a bit shakey? The Zeratul missions were awesome as they actually had story and plot in them. I'm a bit worried about them though, as the hurr hurr there was a greater generic-angry threat all this time and we must unite! kind of plot tends to suck. Reminds me of a bad plot thread from a shonen anime, and tends to make the stakes patently ridiculous and the feats, that characters have to make to defeat them, laughable compared to their previous outings.speedpop said:
Gameplay-wise, WoL was a breath of fresh air.
speedpop said:
Starcraft + Broodwar were at least coherent and maintained a sense of continuity. SCII:WoL broke continuity and had moments that made no sense like the Raynor raid on that Battlecruiser. It literally goes from him seeing a massive overpowering fleet arrive, to him somehow shuttling over to their capital ship and gunning his way to the boss. Who in their right mind would send a shuttle to raid a flagship of a massive fleet that could destroy you instantly? They should've spoken over the comm and arranged a meeting.
Wouldn't be surprised if their new MMO actually was a Starcraft one (regardless of what they keep telling us) and WOL + HOTS + LOTV is going to bring us into an MMO storyline because, again, Blizzard will go and make it so "the true evil Xel'naga has been vanquished by the Terran+Protoss+Zerg alliance but now with no common enemy, they turn against each other!Kunan said:
Hell, they pretty much did it with RoC+TFT so I wouldn't put it past them.
Kunan said:
Agreed. Even though the main plot for WoL was a trope filled, retconning-cheesefest, I think the biggest problem came from the lack of focus and poor pacing. The game would have been infinitely better if they had just stuck to one plot point and had that be the driving force the whole way through. Having roughly 5 different arcs going on (none of which really had any conclusion) made it nigh impossible to get invested in any of them.
When the Zerg first arrived, the newscast said something along the lines of "over 1 Billion dead initially" indicating a fairly major threat and yet the entire rest of the game, we never get to see any of the destruction that the Zerg are causing. They are just there to irritate Raynor. Same thing applies to Mengsk. The first mission shows the oppressive nature of the Dominion, but (with the exception of the not-so-subtle newscasts) we never actually see or interact with any of the oppression of the Dominion. Combine these weaknesses with a relatively slowly paced campaign and you end up with one of the most unsatisfying campaigns in recent memory (from a strictly story perspective).
Although I don't think the actual narrative of the SC2 arc is salvageable at this point, we can at least hope that whatever story they write is focused, well paced, and well told.
I'm up to the final few missions of WoL and it's felt like absolutely nothing has happened. Compare it to the original SC. Yes they are both B-grade cheese but as least the plot moved forward and a lot of shit went down in SC1. SC2 feels like a bunch of random missions with no story advancements.
ColonialRaptor
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So wtf is going on here, she's humanized again? Da FUK
PuppetSlave
Member
-COOLIO- said:
Not necessarily. It could just be the variant of that protoss jewel that got you to play protoss mission in SC2 SP.
Metzen is pretty awful. The story in all their games just get worse and worse >_<
Its weird how in wow for example, some quests have great stories and characters, but then they get upgraded into 'lore' and... they get ruined. (Tirion from vanilla to wotlk)
Feels like Lucas working alone... ruining everything...
Its weird how in wow for example, some quests have great stories and characters, but then they get upgraded into 'lore' and... they get ruined. (Tirion from vanilla to wotlk)
Feels like Lucas working alone... ruining everything...