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[AdventureRacing]

Go back, re-play it, and realize how b-grade campy it still is.

I hate when people say this. I don't need to go back and replay it (although i have recently anyway) because i know i enjoyed the story. Clearly i don't think it's some incredible narrative but i really liked it.

Blizzard have crafted ridiculous stories over and over again so I have no idea why people are crying foul over some dialogue in the screenshots.

Have you ignored everything people have posted? It's because we enjoyed the first story. SC2's plot and dialogue are both garbage and has managed to ruin the universe that was created in SC1.

 

[Dahbomb]

WELL...

IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!!

 

[Rygar 8 Bit]

trailers up on gametrailers

 

[LowParry]

oh fuck, they played the amnesia card

I saw that too. Terrible. Which means at the end, she'll regain her memories, and it's as if nothing happened to begin with. Terrible terrible terrible.

 

[Corky]

Hmm, soo 18 months after july 2010 puts us in a 2011 winter release- ish ?

 

[nilbog21]

looks fun. i actually really enjoyed the wings of liberty campaign on brutal. i wonder how many new units will be added to the game

also kerrigan looks really lame. can blizard fire samwise yet

 

[Mairu]

important part of the q&a:

Q: What are some of the changes made to multiplayer Heart of the Swarm?

A: While we're not quite ready to go into detail about the new multiplayer content in Heart of the Swarm, we can say that this expansion set will include new units and new maps. We'll have more details about multiplayer Heart of the Swarm content at BlizzCon.

can't wait

 

[HK-47]

looks fun. i actually really enjoyed the wings of liberty campaign on brutal. i wonder how many new units will be added to the game

also kerrigan looks really lame. can blizard fire samwise yet

Metzen and Samwise both should be banished to the moon.

 

[Aaron]

I was willing to accept the sacrifice of a multi-race campaign in WoL because I assumed the Zerg would get their chance to shine afterwards. It feels weird for them to have a significantly shorter campaign than the Terran. Zerg continues to be the least popular race online, and giving them the short end of the campaign stick is just another reason I think people just don't get into the race.

This expansion is going to be a huge boost to people playing zerg in multi. Right now they're the hardest race for a noob to wrap their minds around. Also, it's not that much shorter since the terran campaign had 6? protoss missions, as well as its braindead early missions.

 

[Tacitus_]

The gameplay trailer from wellplayed.org looked promising. Kerrigan was a cold, murdering bitch in it. I hope it's not temporary.

 

[Pandaman]

Hmm, soo 18 months after july 2010 puts us in a 2011 winter release- ish ?

with 3-5 months of beta beforehand. i dont think we'll see hots this year, but we'll probably get the beta.

"campaigns of 30 missions per race is the same as 3 sets of 10/10/10!"
"for HOTS, we're looking at about 20 missions"

...

 

[Corky]

with 3-5 months of beta beforehand. i dont think we'll see hots this year, but we'll probably get the beta.

"campaigns of 30 missions per race is the same as 3 sets of 10/10/10!"
"for HOTS, we're looking at about 20 missions"

...

Oh ok, we'll heres hoping I atleast get to play D3 this year.

Spoiler

Right? It's crunchtime right?? ...................

 

[Kunan]

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I'm with you on this

 

[Nirolak]

The gameplay trailer from wellplayed.org looked promising. Kerrigan was a cold, murdering bitch in it. I hope it's not temporary.

I have some bad news for you.

There are a few wrinkles in the build we play. Kerrigan's personality veers a little between determination to wipe out anything opposing her ("No-one gets out alive. No-one.") and more mawkish lines like, "The hunt is bloody. I can't believe I'm slaughtering innocents." But Browder is upfront about the dialogue and voice-acting being placeholder, while lead writer Brian Kindregan says they're still "smoothing out" the progression – and, of course, we played isolated missions rather than an individual arc.

Source: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-05-30-starcraft-ii-heart-of-the-swarm-preview?page=1

 

[dimb]

This expansion is going to be a huge boost to people playing zerg in multi. Right now they're the hardest race for a noob to wrap their minds around.

I'm not sure a lack of understanding is what keeps people away from Zerg. Structurally, they are the simplest race. You build everything out of a single building and unit types tend to be very basic. Mechanically they take the most work though, so people would rather play Protoss and EZ warp everything in.

 

[HK-47]

with 3-5 months of beta beforehand. i dont think we'll see hots this year, but we'll probably get the beta.

"campaigns of 30 missions per race is the same as 3 sets of 10/10/10!"
"for HOTS, we're looking at about 20 missions"

...

loololololol

Fucking liars.

 

[Nirolak]

loololololol

Fucking liars.

This is why I was complaining when they broke it into three parts.

 

[HK-47]

This is why I was complaining when they broke it into three parts.

I defended them.

I was young and naive.

 

[Kunan]

I defended them.

I was young and naive.

I defended them too

FFS

 

[kayos90]

This is why I was complaining when they broke it into three parts.

I don't think you were the only one complaining. Half of the fans probably think the same.

 

[Tacitus_]

I have some bad news for you.


Source: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-05-30-starcraft-ii-heart-of-the-swarm-preview?page=1

Figures. :[

 

[Pandaman]

where's that gaffer going to blizzcon? i have a question he can ask for me.

 

[bluestuff]

well at least its only going to be $40

 

[Nirolak]

So this is why it's taking so long:

Q: How long was the production cycle?

A: Ongoing - I've said some numbers in the past. We didn't get started in earnest on HosS until the new year, however, we have been doing art and design concepts since the release of WoL. It's really difficult to say how long the production will be.

Source: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=228212

 

[Corky]

So this is why it's taking so long:

Well you know, drawing stuff takes time , especially when you have a million art people on staff.

 

[Pandaman]

well at least its only going to be $40

blizzard expansion prices: 54.99 trolololol

 

[Mairu]

where's that gaffer going to blizzcon? i have a question he can ask for me.

I'm going to Blizzcon but I doubt I'll be going to the panels

I remember hearing awhile back that the SC2 team is actually relatively small so it doesn't really surprise me that they didn't get started on HotS proper until this year. I don't expect it until next year at the very least

 

[Nirolak]

We're going to add some new multiplayer units, and take out some multiplayer units and we're going to try to make it really great, but a ton of the work is going to go into single player.

...

 

[Hylian7]

Looks great. I really enjoyed Wings of Liberty's campaign and this is looking just as interesting if not more interesting.

Spoiler

I hope for more surprise Protoss missions and am still sad that Legacy of the Void is last.

 

[dimb]

...

You're not excited that the Sentry might be removed from a competitive environment?

 

[Pandaman]

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to give blizzard an inch [and not a micron more], the unit they mentioned as an example is the overseer and there certainly is room there that could be best served by a new unit.

 

[Hylian7]

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Probably a similar situation to Wings of Liberty's multiplayer, where units from the campaign and SC1 did not make into multiplayer. Probably for balance reasons.

 

[Q8D3vil]

i like how they replied to idra argument.

 

[jackdoe]

blizzard expansion prices: 54.99 trolololol

I bet $49.99. The new "$40".

 

[Entropia]

I'm going to Blizzcon but I doubt I'll be going to the panels

I remember hearing awhile back that the SC2 team is actually relatively small so it doesn't really surprise me that they didn't get started on HotS proper until this year. I don't expect it until next year at the very least

I'm going to Blizzcon too! But I only go to the WoW related panels.

 

[Aaron]

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If you watch the interview on giantbomb, it comes off that they're trying a lot of things with the multiplayer and they have no set idea what changes will actually be made yet.

 

[Pandaman]

I'm going to Blizzcon but I doubt I'll be going to the panels

go and ask them how they plan to win back the sales of fans who are growing tired with a company that excuses problems with lies about upcoming products.

 

[Pandaman]

i like how they replied to idra argument.

'we hope it goes away, but if it doesn't you'll have to buy HOTS if you want it fixed'.

classy.

 

[Mairu]

go and ask them how they plan to win back the sales of fans who are growing tired with a company that excuses problems with lies about upcoming products.

you say like that HotS isn't going to be the best-selling rts expansion of all time when it releases

edit: well probably not best selling of all time but it'll set some sort of sales-time records

 

[Neki]

This is why I was complaining when they broke it into three parts.

Well if the third part has 40 missions, we'll all be eating crow, lol.

 

[Pandaman]

you say like that HotS isn't going to be the best-selling rts expansion of all time when it releases

edit: well probably not best selling of all time but it'll set some sort of sales-time records

oh i know it'll sell and ill still buy, its just being passive aggressive only works if they know you're doing it.

Well if the third part has 40 missions, we'll all be eating crow, lol.

im still short 10 zerg missions.

 

[Corky]

Well if the third part has 40 missions, we'll all be eating crow, lol.

And the possibility of that is non-existant.

 

[Bowdz]

Well here is Blizzard's problem:

Q: How is Kerrigan resurrected?

Right now it's just a new mechanic, we haven't figured out yet if her consciousness is transferred to a new body, or if she just burrows to the hive - we need to lock down the mechanic and then we'll examine the lore.

So the design process is mechanics first, story second. It makes for great gameplay, but lackluster, disjointed stories.

 

[Wallach]

I'm really curious as to what units they wind up taking out of multi. Scary.

 

[Neki]

oh i know it'll sell and ill still buy, its just being passive aggressive only works if they know you're doing it.


im still short 10 zerg missions.

protoss is superior to zerg pandaman, you should know this already, we'd be getting 10 more missions of the superior race.

Well here is Blizzard's problem:



So the design process is mechanics first, story second. It makes for great gameplay, but lackluster, disjointed stories.

gameplay > story in most cases

 

[AppleMIX]

I can't believe people care so much about the single player game. Sure its a nice distraction, but the meat has always been with the multiplayer.

 

[HolyCheck]

Well here is Blizzard's problem:



So the design process is mechanics first, story second. It makes for great gameplay, but lackluster, disjointed stories.

If they don't want to shoot themselves in the foot they will worry about mechanics first.

 

[syllogism]

loololololol

Fucking liars.

Err, it's a completely arbitrary number either way considering missions vary in length. SC2 campaign was longer than SC1 vanilla campaign, so the only really valid complaint is that you just really really wanted to play as zerg/protoss in the vanilla campaign.

 

[dimb]

Well here is Blizzard's problem:



So the design process is mechanics first, story second. It makes for great gameplay, but lackluster, disjointed stories.

No that's the right way to do it, I just had no idea this game was so early still. I mean SC2 came out last summer.

 

[Nirolak]

Well here is Blizzard's problem:



So the design process is mechanics first, story second. It makes for great gameplay, but lackluster, disjointed stories.

Well, it doesn't have to be.

Valve makes their gameplay mechanics first and their story later, but at least they can pull off something entertaining plot wise in the end.