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Scribblenauts Preview/Impressions Thread - You will say "wow." (see post #217)
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Oh, bells yeah! About friggin time!
I joined neogaf for this thread and has been clicking the "post reply" button a couple a' times per day for the last two months, hoping for my account to have been approved by the higher powers. Now, suddenly the day has come! But, what do I want to write..?
(Sorry for the pointless bump.)
I joined neogaf for this thread and has been clicking the "post reply" button a couple a' times per day for the last two months, hoping for my account to have been approved by the higher powers. Now, suddenly the day has come! But, what do I want to write..?
(Sorry for the pointless bump.)
Jackson said:
Honestly it doesn't mean anything. The only time somebody is restricted from buying a game is if it's rated M. A 6-year-old could buy a T rated game if they had the cash.
Plus, I don't think I've ever seen a parent deny a kid an E10 game in the 2 and a half years I've worked in video game retail.
SmellyWaffles
Neo Member
Hey, another dedicated junior member whose account finally got accepted here 
Jackson, I've been wondering for a while about the merit system, because from what I can tell a huge amount of the replay value will involve trying to get them. Do they affect the Ollar amount you get for each level (i.e. the "style" score) or are they unrelated? And am I right in assuming that you can't get a merit twice on the same level? That is, merits are only awarded the first time you complete a level under the appropriate conditions? If so, is there a listing somewhere inside the game of all the merits you've gotten thus far for each level? What I'm getting at is that even after you've beaten challenge mode and completed every level four times, there's should be the ADDITIONAL replay value of trying to make up solutions that satisfy every merit requirement. As in, ~100 merits for 220 levels = 2200 merits to obtain. That would be cool beyond words.
EDIT: I fail at math. Make that 22,000 merits.
Jackson, I've been wondering for a while about the merit system, because from what I can tell a huge amount of the replay value will involve trying to get them. Do they affect the Ollar amount you get for each level (i.e. the "style" score) or are they unrelated? And am I right in assuming that you can't get a merit twice on the same level? That is, merits are only awarded the first time you complete a level under the appropriate conditions? If so, is there a listing somewhere inside the game of all the merits you've gotten thus far for each level? What I'm getting at is that even after you've beaten challenge mode and completed every level four times, there's should be the ADDITIONAL replay value of trying to make up solutions that satisfy every merit requirement. As in, ~100 merits for 220 levels = 2200 merits to obtain. That would be cool beyond words.
EDIT: I fail at math. Make that 22,000 merits.
RaoulDukeHST
Neo Member
Helix Snake said:
me too
AllenMS828
Neo Member
<insert requisite I'm-a-newbie-because-of-Scribblenauts disclaimer/intro here> :lol
After we got confirmation that the Starites can actually be destroyed, I got to thinking: "Wouldn't it be neat if different Starites were made of different materials?" Then they'd behave differently, depending on the properties of the material they were made of. That, in turn, could affect how you solve the puzzle at hand.
So for example, in stage 10-6, if the Starite was made of paper, it'd obviously burn on contact with the lava. But since it's lighter, it could float downwards, giving you more time to catch it, and maybe it could even be lifted up with a puff of air or something.
On the other hand, if it was made of metal, it might have more resistance to burning, but it would fall quickly from the cage and would be hot to the touch. Still, maybe you'd be able to use some tongs or something to retrieve it from the lava.
I think that would be a neat way to affect the challenge and replayability of the levels. Maybe sometimes it'd be a random material. Or it could be preset, but it'd change each time you solve the puzzle (for the second and third attempts at unique solutions).
That doesn't seem to be something that's in the game currently, and it's probably too late to add it (even though it could use the same attributes that are already attached to other objects). But maybe it's something that could be considered for the inevitable sequel. What do you guys think?
After we got confirmation that the Starites can actually be destroyed, I got to thinking: "Wouldn't it be neat if different Starites were made of different materials?" Then they'd behave differently, depending on the properties of the material they were made of. That, in turn, could affect how you solve the puzzle at hand.
So for example, in stage 10-6, if the Starite was made of paper, it'd obviously burn on contact with the lava. But since it's lighter, it could float downwards, giving you more time to catch it, and maybe it could even be lifted up with a puff of air or something.
On the other hand, if it was made of metal, it might have more resistance to burning, but it would fall quickly from the cage and would be hot to the touch. Still, maybe you'd be able to use some tongs or something to retrieve it from the lava.
I think that would be a neat way to affect the challenge and replayability of the levels. Maybe sometimes it'd be a random material. Or it could be preset, but it'd change each time you solve the puzzle (for the second and third attempts at unique solutions).
That doesn't seem to be something that's in the game currently, and it's probably too late to add it (even though it could use the same attributes that are already attached to other objects). But maybe it's something that could be considered for the inevitable sequel. What do you guys think?
Fidelis Hodie
Infidelis Cras
So, I love this game and I'm going to make all 5 DS wielding members of my family buy it. If they don't, I'll buy it for them, nail them to a chair and watch them enjoy it.
That's just how awesome the game seems. What happens when I get to see how awesome it really is?
That's just how awesome the game seems. What happens when I get to see how awesome it really is?
SirPenguin
Member
Found some videos of people solving 10-6. Turns out it's the simplest level ever.
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=219809#
This thing can seriously be solved with 1 item.
edit: I don't mean to say the level itself is simple, but once you use your imagination (and think of REAL LIFE solutions) the entire thing just comes together. I can't believe I overthought this thing!
YOU CAN SIMPLY OPEN THE CAGE! Look at the 2nd video
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=219809#
This thing can seriously be solved with 1 item.
edit: I don't mean to say the level itself is simple, but once you use your imagination (and think of REAL LIFE solutions) the entire thing just comes together. I can't believe I overthought this thing!
SirPenguin
Member
I'm actually quitting the blog I kept running on Scribblenauts stuff because learning 10-6's obvious solution is making me realizing I am horribly spoiling myself. I'm going on a self-imposed media and news blackout.
Goodnight, sweet Scribblenauts
Goodnight, sweet Scribblenauts
Scribblenauts got on arstechnica's Opposable Thumbs (and featured on the ars frontpage)
Don't check the comment though.
Don't check the comment though.
I was going to go on a media blackout of Scribblenauts, but then I figured that even if I saw other people's solutions for levels, that would ultimately only make the game more fun and challenging for myself later, because I would force myself to try and solve the level without using the solutions I'd already seen. This isn't really a game you can spoil for yourself.
On another note, I have recently purchased a DSi. Scribblenauts and Golden Sun DS ultimately convinced me that I needed to finally buy one.
On another note, I have recently purchased a DSi. Scribblenauts and Golden Sun DS ultimately convinced me that I needed to finally buy one.
Wow, what a shocker... but all that 10-6 has taught me is the fun me and a couple of buds are going to have trying to solve the most simplest of problems as complex as possible.
We had a good hour just talking about possible ways at 10-6, I'm sure the time is just going to extend itself once we have the game in our hands.
We had a good hour just talking about possible ways at 10-6, I'm sure the time is just going to extend itself once we have the game in our hands.
SirPenguin
Member
zagman505 said:
Ehh, maybe, but the hilariously easy solution to 10-6 IS a spoiler because it really changes the entire level. I do get what you mean, though.
Finally! I get to post in this Awesome Thread
This thread got my Hyped, im a gamer for more then 10 years already, I was never hyped for a game other then spore, which got me disapointing for ever, I thought i could never Get hyped for another PC game. But, as you see, I got Hyped for a DS game, which I thought will never happen. I'm so happy to be part of this thread
BTW i'm the one that Posted the Warner bros. Official release date in the internet First! :lol
This thread got my Hyped, im a gamer for more then 10 years already, I was never hyped for a game other then spore, which got me disapointing for ever, I thought i could never Get hyped for another PC game. But, as you see, I got Hyped for a DS game, which I thought will never happen. I'm so happy to be part of this thread
BTW i'm the one that Posted the Warner bros. Official release date in the internet First! :lol
Their solution is astonishingly simply... Just shows you how having a copy of the game helps you find out what is possible and what isn't. (Unsurprisingly, much more is possible than we expect.)
I hope they fix the "falling into the lava after getting the starite" bug. And the swimming in lava thing.... Honestly, what good is getting something if you end up dieing right after anyway. :lol
Either way, it's all still a preview version, things shall be corrected.
............. I can't wait much longer. GAME HYPE REACHING CRITICAL MASS.
I hope they fix the "falling into the lava after getting the starite" bug. And the swimming in lava thing.... Honestly, what good is getting something if you end up dieing right after anyway. :lol
Either way, it's all still a preview version, things shall be corrected.
............. I can't wait much longer. GAME HYPE REACHING CRITICAL MASS.
New videos on ign
I thought the black hole would be more destructive.
I thought the black hole would be more destructive.
flipping_heck
Member
SirPenguin said:
can't believe that everyone was thinking of just breaking the cage when you could simply open it.. talk about overthinking the obvious
SirPenguin said:
I didn't realize that the grappling hook was magnetic. Is that something we're supposed to assume or figure out through experience? (Not that I'm saying you couldn't just grapple onto the steel block normally, but from the videos it looks like the intent was that you do use magnetism and that's why the block at the top is metallic)
SmellyWaffles
Neo Member
I don't think the block or the grappling hook are magnetic. It's seems more like the grappling hook lets you grip onto any surface regardless of its shape or composition.
I thought about opening the cage with a key or lockpick, but assumed it wouldn't work because there's no visible lock! Now, if we had the game we would've known you could do that because tapping on the cage shows an "empty" option. There's no way we could have known that based on the limited description.
I thought about opening the cage with a key or lockpick, but assumed it wouldn't work because there's no visible lock! Now, if we had the game we would've known you could do that because tapping on the cage shows an "empty" option. There's no way we could have known that based on the limited description.
SirPenguin
Member
ombz said:
Gah! Ok, these will be the last three, I swear!
9-4 is a pretty cool looking level. I like his solution to get rid of the skeletons, haha.
Blackhole was pretty destructive, it just doesn't have that big of a range, which is fine, and probably pretty beneficial to the player.
xfd @ fishing pole 10-6, though. It was so glitchy looking! He could have probably made it if Maxwell didn't decide to spaz out like that. I was hoping at the end he could have fished it out of the lava
Helix Snake
Neo Member
Scribblenauts kinds of reminds me of a 2D version of Garry's Mod, what with the pitting random NPCs against each other to see who'd win, creating contraptions by attaching stuff together, spawning all sorts of different objects with different properties... of course, it looks to be inferior in some ways and superior in others (you can't make as complex contraptions, but you have many more objects and they interact much more dynamically)
SirPenguin
Member
Also this game has an actual point. Garry's Mod is delicious sandbox, but it gets stale for those same reasons. Hopefully Scribblenauts has a health mix
I got a funny (the bad funny) feeling from the video interview with Marius Fahlbusch posted on page 68, and I still haven't been able to shake it off. I've tracked this funny feeling down to two statements in the interview, one of which has already been discussed.
1) "20-24 items at the same time in a level in addition to what is already there". This seems very funny since the scribblemeter is filling up really fast in the videos we've seen. One explanation - which I hope to be true - could be that the videos we've seen are from the game demo. And one possible way to "demofy" this game would be to limit the amount of objects allowed simultaneously. However, i imagine 20-24 raving Cthulhus (Cthulhi?) in one level would be pretty hard on the hardware...
2) "The game will appear in 10 lanuages. The european version will be 6 languages, which is english, dutch, french, italian, german, spanish." By "the european version", does he mean 1 single game cartridge that has all these six languages in it? (That's sounds pretty tight..!) If so, I think we can expect the swedish cartridge to also have english..? (I'm swedish, and although I prefer playing games, watching movies and reading books in english and I consider myself a decent english speaker, Scribblenauts is of course best experienced in ones native language since I can't imagine anyone having his/her second language vocabulary being bigger than that in ones mother tongue.) That would be awesome, since I really want to try them both out and Scribblenauts is the perfect vocabulary-tester/trainer. (I really do believe that one of the main reasons we here in Sweden are generally such good english speakers is that we've been playing video games and watching cartoon network since we were kids, in english, being forced to learn it. But once more, I digress...) So. My main concern with this statement number 2: 10 languages? 6 in that "european version". Swedish has been confirmed. That's 7. I believe I've heard confirmation of norwegian language as well. Wich would probably mean one nordic version, as is often the case here, with swedish, norwegian, danish and finnish. So, there's your 10 languages right there. And that's all? I believe I've heard statements about portugese as well..?
What does it all meeeean?
Also, I too am seriously thinking of going on the media black out. But it's hard...
1) "20-24 items at the same time in a level in addition to what is already there". This seems very funny since the scribblemeter is filling up really fast in the videos we've seen. One explanation - which I hope to be true - could be that the videos we've seen are from the game demo. And one possible way to "demofy" this game would be to limit the amount of objects allowed simultaneously. However, i imagine 20-24 raving Cthulhus (Cthulhi?) in one level would be pretty hard on the hardware...
2) "The game will appear in 10 lanuages. The european version will be 6 languages, which is english, dutch, french, italian, german, spanish." By "the european version", does he mean 1 single game cartridge that has all these six languages in it? (That's sounds pretty tight..!) If so, I think we can expect the swedish cartridge to also have english..? (I'm swedish, and although I prefer playing games, watching movies and reading books in english and I consider myself a decent english speaker, Scribblenauts is of course best experienced in ones native language since I can't imagine anyone having his/her second language vocabulary being bigger than that in ones mother tongue.) That would be awesome, since I really want to try them both out and Scribblenauts is the perfect vocabulary-tester/trainer. (I really do believe that one of the main reasons we here in Sweden are generally such good english speakers is that we've been playing video games and watching cartoon network since we were kids, in english, being forced to learn it. But once more, I digress...) So. My main concern with this statement number 2: 10 languages? 6 in that "european version". Swedish has been confirmed. That's 7. I believe I've heard confirmation of norwegian language as well. Wich would probably mean one nordic version, as is often the case here, with swedish, norwegian, danish and finnish. So, there's your 10 languages right there. And that's all? I believe I've heard statements about portugese as well..?
What does it all meeeean?
Also, I too am seriously thinking of going on the media black out. But it's hard...
I agree about the large item number mentioned. We're still waiting for Jackson to clear that up, as well as explain his rationale about AVALANCHES. ;0Lovechild said:
I almost feel like I should stop watching videos as well. Some of the levels probably will have a trick to them in some sense, like opening a box, so I want to save some of that surprise for myself.
SirPenguin
Member
Jackson said:
Oh really? Rock on, then. Videos can be deceiving!
SirPenguin
Member
toonhead2 said:
I'm not sure what happens with the whole
cat climbing down the tornado, but XFD @ it destroying the starite (at least, that's what I think happens!). Great touch. I foresee many solutions of mine failing because I go in guns (or torandos?) a-blazin', and end up destroying the starite.
SmellyWaffles
Neo Member
honestly what bothers me is the rope physics. Not necessarily a problem with the physics engine itself, but having a rope made out of four rigid pieces makes it work fairly unlike a real rope and more like a clunky chain. If it was made out of twice as many pieces, it'd make a huge improvement.
SirPenguin
Member
Really? I thought the way they implemented it was great. Sometimes it got a little wonky but that's ok. I imagine upping the segment count is a quick way to eat up DS resources. Or so I might imagine.
I was damn impressed with the physics engine in the Edge videos, though. The last video when he's waiting for the rope to stop swinging was great. I forgot I was watching a DS game.
I was damn impressed with the physics engine in the Edge videos, though. The last video when he's waiting for the rope to stop swinging was great. I forgot I was watching a DS game.
SmellyWaffles
Neo Member
True, I shouldn't be complaining. The physics are great for a DS game, and certainly everything works like it should. The way the rope moves doesn't make the level unplayable or anything.