brotkasten
Member
The article on PCGH didn't work at all, which is surprising and disappointing.
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Sega PC ports campaign continues with petition (Vanquish, Bayonetta, VF5)
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SpikedGunner
Member
I'm curious to know if Grief has already spoken with Patrick.
He hasn't replied back since the other day.
And tweet.
brotkasten
Member
And Polygon.
That's a good idea, probably will push some more spam tomorrow morning to get the word out.
CertifiedFP
Member
Have we tried to get coverage from PCGamesN yet?
They were the first ones.
CertifiedFP
Member
Nevermind, it did. Damn board suffers from multiple pages worth of news getting posted at the same time, and naturally I wasn't there to see it when it got originally posted and/or bumped.
it's a very low number I think.
Dark Souls PC petition got like 70,000 signatures and that just a one very overrated game.
I'm not sure if I would bet on the remaining gaming sites pulling that much traffic. Here's some stats from experience on one of my videos which got featured on the following sites:
And that's just a video, the ratio of click-through to a petition and signing is probably far less. Not saying they didn't do a good job for the petition so far, but I'd really try to get more Youtubers on board. They can pull far bigger numbers, and I wouldn't be surprised if TotalBiscuit was one of the big reasons the Dark Souls petition was so succesful in the first place. He's completely out of the question due to the Sega boycott tho, which is a shame, but there's probably more channels out there that could help.
Getting more press sites is good, but Youtubers can get their fanbase to help out more than just readers of a gaming news website. Of the remaining sites, I just recommend asking PCGamer and RPS. I don't have much suggestions for Youtubers yet, but I'll see what I can find that might be relevant.
(The Destructoid one was by Jim Sterling since he tends to be interested in Sega's stuff, so I wouldn't consider them an option anymore since he's at The Escapist now)
And that's just a video, the ratio of click-through to a petition and signing is probably far less. Not saying they didn't do a good job for the petition so far, but I'd really try to get more Youtubers on board. They can pull far bigger numbers, and I wouldn't be surprised if TotalBiscuit was one of the big reasons the Dark Souls petition was so succesful in the first place. He's completely out of the question due to the Sega boycott tho, which is a shame, but there's probably more channels out there that could help.
Getting more press sites is good, but Youtubers can get their fanbase to help out more than just readers of a gaming news website. Of the remaining sites, I just recommend asking PCGamer and RPS. I don't have much suggestions for Youtubers yet, but I'll see what I can find that might be relevant.
(The Destructoid one was by Jim Sterling since he tends to be interested in Sega's stuff, so I wouldn't consider them an option anymore since he's at The Escapist now)
Stop
Barkley's Justice
Member
The old game train comin thru! Headline news! Choo-choo!
My game of the generation.
Dark Souls also speaks to the majority of the demographic, Bayonetta and Vanquish are, admittedly, more niche.
Valkyria Chronicles would speak to the demographic more, but it is not really a well known title.
TaroYamada
Member
Was at work, replying now:
That was you? Nice catch.
Neither I, nor Grief, has heard back unfortunately.
Will update targets in OP, Gamespot too.
Good enough for me
Yes, they already covered this.
I agree; folks need to remember that SEGA took the Virtua Fighter 5: Final Showdown petition into consideration for that game's home console port; it had ~800 signatures. We've already made an impact but it doesn't mean we should stop trying, we need to get as many as we can to sign this.
I agree Dario and I've made YouTubers a priority since day one. I figured we would have an easier time reaching them and an easier time getting them to push us versus the major online outlets. I was wrong, it was the exact opposite, we've had an easier time getting on sites than getting on Youtube channels. The only successes we've had, as far as major Youtuber's are concerned, is some tweets/retweets from Boogie, Maximilian and Super Bunny Hop.
TotalBiscuit would be a massive assistance but he's not willing to promote something like this despite our best efforts.
That was you? Nice catch.
Neither I, nor Grief, has heard back unfortunately.
Will update targets in OP, Gamespot too.
confirmed
Good enough for me
Yes, they already covered this.
I agree; folks need to remember that SEGA took the Virtua Fighter 5: Final Showdown petition into consideration for that game's home console port; it had ~800 signatures. We've already made an impact but it doesn't mean we should stop trying, we need to get as many as we can to sign this.
I'm not sure if I would bet on the remaining gaming sites pulling that much traffic. Here's some stats from experience on one of my videos which got featured on the following sites:
And that's just a video, the ratio of click-through to a petition and signing is probably far less. Not saying they didn't do a good job for the petition so far, but I'd really try to get more Youtubers on board. They can pull far bigger numbers, and I wouldn't be surprised if TotalBiscuit was one of the big reasons the Dark Souls petition was so succesful in the first place. He's completely out of the question due to the Sega boycott tho, which is a shame, but there's probably more channels out there that could help.
Getting more press sites is good, but Youtubers can get their fanbase to help out more than just readers of a gaming news website. Of the remaining sites, I just recommend asking PCGamer and RPS. I don't have much suggestions for Youtubers yet, but I'll see what I can find that might be relevant.
(The Destructoid one was by Jim Sterling since he tends to be interested in Sega's stuff, so I wouldn't consider them an option anymore since he's at The Escapist now)
I agree Dario and I've made YouTubers a priority since day one. I figured we would have an easier time reaching them and an easier time getting them to push us versus the major online outlets. I was wrong, it was the exact opposite, we've had an easier time getting on sites than getting on Youtube channels. The only successes we've had, as far as major Youtuber's are concerned, is some tweets/retweets from Boogie, Maximilian and Super Bunny Hop.
TotalBiscuit would be a massive assistance but he's not willing to promote something like this despite our best efforts.
You would think it would be the opposite and we would get in with the Youtube personalities before the media outlets. These guys are enthusiasts, just like you and me.
Frankie on PC might be a good option https://twitter.com/FRANKIEonPC
TaroYamada
Member
We got some coverage on FM radio via One Life Left, in season 9 episode 19 they mention the petition at around 12 minutes and 30 seconds in.
Very cool stuff.
Grief, I was wondering if you could Tweet the posts by Clumsyorchid acknowledging the campaign? We need to get them out in the wild. Most of the coverage seems to use the initial Tweet by the Sega community team, which in my honest opinion, was a much less encouraging message compared to the follow-up posts by Clumsyorchid.
I did something similar to supplement Taro's Tweet to Gamespot.
I did something similar to supplement Taro's Tweet to Gamespot.
Krusenstern
Banned
I'm a little depressed that we haven't made more impact. Only passed 8300 signatures.
We're not in a good position, are we?
What is a PC gamer supposed to do to get ports? I feel bad.
We're not in a good position, are we?
What is a PC gamer supposed to do to get ports? I feel bad.
.:Wesker:.
Member
It is rather depressing that we've slowed down from over 1000 sigs a day, to just 100 or so a day. There are still plenty of news outlets and youtube personalities that haven't covered the petition, but I doubt they're going to help out at this point. I'm not sure outright spamming people with tweets does a whole lot for our image.
brotkasten
Member
It's not necessary to put your real name and address in it. Not even the E-Mail address has to work.
Phatosaurus
Member
Maybe we should turn our attention away from the big news outlets and more towards big youtubers? Or has that already been brought up?
Contacting the likes of NorthernLion, TotalBiscuit, etc. would surely give this petition a bump.
Contacting the likes of NorthernLion, TotalBiscuit, etc. would surely give this petition a bump.
brotkasten
Member
Please, please read the last page of the thread. If that's too much to ask for, then at least the last 10 posts. Or just the OP.
Targeting YouTube personalities has been a goal from day 1 and is much more difficult than getting an article on Kotaku or other outlets. Total Biscuit would not offer any help, as he boycotts everything Sega.
I think 9000 signatures is quite respectable, I feel like we can get more but need some help from news outlets.
It has been effective up to this point. I have been emailing people as well.
We've been trying, but it really seems like they don't give a shit.
Going to push for northern and Frankie today.
I want to apologise in advance if this wasn't directed at my post, but I want to clarify that I didn't urge Grief to spam the acknowledgements. I asked him to Tweet it out once so that at the very least his followers sees them, it is a shame that these messages from Clumsyorchid haven't been picked up by the various outlets.
Don't give up just yet, we've done quite well so far, just keep pushing the campaign.
I think the biggest issues are the "need" for a real name and address (especially the address), people tend to see those fields and feel intimidated.
Unfortunately there's not much to be done in that area.
Dark Souls also had a seemingly bigger push by someone inside Namco (even if it was from a community manager), compared to Sega more lukewarm reaction, which in turn brought more press/youtube news until it became more viral allowing it to reach the 70K signatures.
Unfortunately there's not much to be done in that area.
Dark Souls also had a seemingly bigger push by someone inside Namco (even if it was from a community manager), compared to Sega more lukewarm reaction, which in turn brought more press/youtube news until it became more viral allowing it to reach the 70K signatures.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
I'll make a video on it a bit later, but that might only add a few subs. I'll as Cry on Skype about it later, but I don't think he'll be too interested.
Awesome! Much appreciated Dusk Golem.
Need some help guys, trying to drum up more media attention targeting PCgamer for now.
If you could retweet this, or send a Tweet out to these guys yourselves that would be great!
https://twitter.com/Grief_exe/status/429372910982021120
https://twitter.com/TaroInCorja/status/429372741624410112
If you could retweet this, or send a Tweet out to these guys yourselves that would be great!
https://twitter.com/Grief_exe/status/429372910982021120
https://twitter.com/TaroInCorja/status/429372741624410112
TaroYamada
Member
Just finished tweeting every staff member of PCG, and PCGUK, we'll see if any bite.
A good recommendation, I've since added one of Clumsy's forum posts to each tweet I made today.
I honestly have no idea, I'm surprised too.
I assume so, it was on the same website, or at least petitionbureau was owned by change. I'd prefer another site too but with the GTAV and Dark Souls petitions using Change.org venues, they were hands down the most popular and as such I went with them.
Much appreciated.
edit: will add to OP, Shenmue guys made us a facebook page.
Grief, I was wondering if you could Tweet the posts by Clumsyorchid acknowledging the campaign? We need to get them out in the wild. Most of the coverage seems to use the initial Tweet by the Sega community team, which in my honest opinion, was a much less encouraging message compared to the follow-up posts by Clumsyorchid.
I did something similar to supplement Taro's Tweet to Gamespot.
A good recommendation, I've since added one of Clumsy's forum posts to each tweet I made today.
I honestly have no idea, I'm surprised too.
I assume so, it was on the same website, or at least petitionbureau was owned by change. I'd prefer another site too but with the GTAV and Dark Souls petitions using Change.org venues, they were hands down the most popular and as such I went with them.
Much appreciated.
edit: will add to OP, Shenmue guys made us a facebook page.
I wish we didn't have* to beg :\
Blame the disjointed one-two we did between a tweet campaign and the petition, and the time it took to get a petition up and running. That more or less destroyed the general wave of goodwill and left only the really invested after the initial euphoria petered out.
mcfishstick
Member
It's just an idea but could we try PCGamingWiki and the Steam General forums?
Also has someone pm'd Jim Sterling? He's got a love/hate relationship with Sega and might help.
Also has someone pm'd Jim Sterling? He's got a love/hate relationship with Sega and might help.
Need some help guys, trying to drum up more media attention targeting PCgamer for now.
If you could retweet this, or send a Tweet out to these guys yourselves that would be great!
https://twitter.com/Grief_exe/status/429372910982021120
https://twitter.com/TaroInCorja/status/429372741624410112
Grief, I was thinking if it wouldn't be more beneficial to link to the OP instead of your initial #SegaPCPorts Tweet?
Let me know if my little suggestions are getting on your nerves.
SniperHunter
Banned
two of the games bombed hard on PS360. Vanquish won't get a sequel ever (and it is an overrated game). I could see the VF5 port but that's about it.
The Shenmue Guys are putting in work!
That is a good suggestion, I think that Taro is trying to get in touch with Jim Sterling.
TaroYamada
Member
Me too, me too.
There's a variety of issues but really we also just have less interest, less press, less of a push from within SEGA (though still encouraging) for this vs. the way it was with Dark Souls for PC. I'm still convinced we've made some impact though, and I must stress once more that this company took an 800 signature petition into consideration for Virtua Fighter 5: Final Showdown's home console port.
I'll look into Sterling, thanks.