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Shift over Last Guardian, Gravity Rush 2 wants to sit next to you
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Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
I sort of at least expected a Gravity Rush 1 PS4 port (Tearaway style) of some kind at TGS to prepare for the sequel going multi-PS platform. But nope.
Japan studios back to being a disaster I guess.
Japan studios back to being a disaster I guess.
Yeah they're mismanaged because they shifted development to ps4 which takes longer to make games for than vita so they don't have anything to show yet.
Wait
Huh
I don't know if you guys have noticed, but Sony hasn't announced a 100% internally developed retail PS4 game by SCE WWS since Uncharted 4 in December 2013 (well, l guess there was the TLOU remaster).
Do you think it is mismanagement of the entire chain of studios? Or perhaps they have changed their timing of when they announce games in development?
That's no publicly announced game from Bend, Santa Monica, Naughty Dog Team #2, Media Molecule's main team, Guerrilla, Guerrilla Cambridge, Team Gravity, or even like Sony London. And of course Sucker Punch.
They're just not announcing games early anymore. Probably because of the TLG crap if I had to guess, where they had a very high profile game they couldn't get done and had to cancel.
I originally thought we'd see a wave of games after Killzone, Driveclub, and Infamous were all out or about to be out but it seems pretty clear they are not doing that.
SniperHunter
Banned
What was the last worthwhile game by Sony Japan studio? Gravity Rush was ok and I can't think of anything else.
They are a Z tier studio at this point
They are a Z tier studio at this point
donutzsick
Member
I'm a little surprised this wasn't shown. I do wonder when it will be... e3 seems too far off. Sony recently seems to love having huge shows with lots of new games.
I've tried to make the point in the past about the major AAA publishers. "They've never done it before" even though we have several examples of games that were announced within 9 months of their planned release date, this year.
I welcome that change. It stands to reason that closer the announcement of a new game to release the more likely it is that the game they actually demo at their unveiling will be closer to the finished product.
El-Pistolero
Member
Gravity Rush was a very, very good game. It could have been excellent with a bit more content, imo.
You are however absolutely right concerning the output of this SCE branch for the last 5-6 years. Lackluster would be the word. Still, I think that we are off to a good start with The Tomorrow Children and Bloodborne (it is a collaboration after all), as both games sound promising (the latter could be GOTY material)...
Have faith!
Nightengale
Member
Internally, Sony released a lot of games in 2013. SSM, ND, Polyphony, Guerilla, Cambridge, Japan Studio, MM.
This year, it is Sucker Punch, Evolution and London. (and ND)
Looking at the timeline, studios who released games in the earlier half of 2013 should be primed to announce their next project sometime next year. Even later if it's an established IP.
The only mismanagement here is the fact that Sony released too many internally developed PS3 games in 2013, thus affecting the year one output as far as internal studios are concerned.
This year, it is Sucker Punch, Evolution and London. (and ND)
Looking at the timeline, studios who released games in the earlier half of 2013 should be primed to announce their next project sometime next year. Even later if it's an established IP.
The only mismanagement here is the fact that Sony released too many internally developed PS3 games in 2013, thus affecting the year one output as far as internal studios are concerned.
El-Pistolero
Member
That sounds like a valid reason. I also think that they have decided to spend time promoting each and every title of theirs, an attitude that they lacked last gen, especially during the second half of the PS3 life where some games -despite their intrinsic quality- were sent to die. The current financial situation of the group and the success of the PS4 will be major incentive towards this shift I suppose...
Nightengale
Member
It also depends on the type of title.
When it comes to established IPs ( Killzone, LBP, GT, etc), Sony tends to eschew the 15+ months marketing cycle and go for a dense 6-12 months cycle. It's only Uncharted 4 that broke this trend, where the game is practically announced 2 years early.
I can easily see Gran Turismo and Gravity Daze announced and released next year, for example.
When it's a new IP, and something that the devs/publisher want to educate the potential audience on, then I can see a 12+ month cycle. New IPs are ideally announced at events to maximise exposure, then established as a desirable product after the longer stretch of time.
Even that depends on the type of game. Bloodborne has a relatively short announcement-to-release cycle, but we also know a reveal at TGS 2013 was entertained, so if that happened, it would had put the game at a 12+ month cycle as well.
El-Pistolero
Member
You make some interesting points... 
orthodoxy1095
Banned
I don't disagree, just curious which titles in particular you think were sent to die?
skatebored
Member
I imagine Gravity Rush would make a pretty good exclusive for Morphius.
What the fuck
The only game that was affected felt like GT6, IMO, being trapped just before PS4s launch. Every other game seemed to do fine.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
That's certainly one way to take the project that I hadn't thought of. I was always assuming it was being stripped from PSV and moved to PS4. But Morpheus would be neat.
Actually London Studios have announced Singstar Ultimate Party this May, releasing in five weeks.
Nightengale
Member
I understand what you're saying. Every other game being released in 2013 finely matches to their overall production schedule in the first place.
Besides, it's not like Sony wasn't prepared for their internal studios's relative inactivity post-2013. The fact that WWS had commissioned a sizable amount of externally developed games meant that Shu knew his internal teams would be low on ammunition for the good half of 2014/early 2015.
People are looking too much into the fact that Sony hasn't announced many internally developed titles. Games take anywhere from 2-4 years to make nowadays, so expecting an announcement from a studio who released a title in 2013 in 2014 is very rare.
Same with RARE/Microsoft. THEY RELEASED A GAME THIS YEAR FFS. Wait till 2015, or heck, even 2016 for the announcement of their next project.
And Molecule announced they are working on a PS4 title. And of course, there is Tearaway PS4, but that doesn't count (?)
jackissocool
Member
Starhawk, Twisted Metal, PS All-Stars (by being rushed out), Into the Nexus, SOCOM, off the top of my head. There are probably others but i don't feel like looking it up. I say this a PlayStation fanboy who absolutely loves Sony as a publisher/group of developers - they send a lot of games out to die.
Also inFamous First Light, which got a retail release in Europe.
Uh all that would do is make reviewers and playtesters puke everywhere. Im not sure if GR would work on a big screen either, is GR1 on VitaTV?
yurinka
Member
Sony released a lot of incertal WWS games in 2013 or even 2014, so these teams need some time to make something new. Both for these and other unnounced games that we know are under development but not officially announced, Sony may think that it would be better to wait and show them closer to their release dates to avoid cases like The Last Guardian.
In addition to this, the PS4 is already working way better than expected, so they can wait and continue with both the already announced WWS games, the ones co-developed with (or fully developed in) external studios like LBP3/Bloodborne*Rime, smaller (timed/console) exclusive from indies/ small 3rd parties (Devolver/Grim Fandango/Housemarque/Velocity2x/Murasaki Baby, etc) and 3rd party AAA games that some will get promotion with Sony due to strategical small (timed) exclusive small things like DLC, bundles, etc (Destiny, several Ubi games, Dragon Quest Heroes etc).
Think that until 6 months from now (the end of March) there are a shit ton of great games coming for PS4 including exclusives like Driveclub, LBP, Singstar, The Order or Bloodborne or very important 3rd party stuff like AC, Far Cry, FIFA, GTA, Evolve, and a lot more. And for later we'll have MGS5, Batman, FFXV, FFType0, Uncharted 4 etc.
So I think they won't want to fight against all this huge competition in the marketing channels with even more new games, specially when they are already more than happy with their current numbers. I bet that after Christmas, maybe around March and specially in E3 they will start to announce new SCE games (including WWS titles) and to market more already announced but not shown too much like Shadow of the Beast, Rime, Uncharted 4, Gravity Rush 2,,etc. They won't need it now, and they may need it then if PS4 crazy sales start to go down until normal numbers around March or so.
shinobi602
Member
lol
jackissocool
Member
Shinobi no
BiGBoSSMk23
A company being excited for their new game is a huge slap in the face to all the fans that liked their old games.
I was just about to flip some shit yesterday after scanning Gaming for some GR2 news.
Seriously, why? Is it even in development? And if it for what platform?
Does it hurt to release some info fuckerssssss?
Seriously, why? Is it even in development? And if it for what platform?
Does it hurt to release some info fuckerssssss?
Well, the game began development on Vita so make your expectations a bit more realistic.
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loaf of bread
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Gravity Rush 2: shown 2013, 1 year ago
TLG: shown 2009, 5 years ago
I think its a little premature to lump GR2 with TLG.
TLG: shown 2009, 5 years ago
I think its a little premature to lump GR2 with TLG.
Nightengale
Member
Fbh
Member
When you haven't seen anything new of Gravity Rush 2 for like 4 years yet Sony insists that they are "hard at work, yet we can't show anything" everytime they are asked about it.
When after 5 years there are rumors about the game being cancelled and Sony replies with "Of course it's not cancelled, it's still full in development, but we can't even share a screenshot right now".
When the Vita 2 gets announced and you are sure it's the perfect time to reintroduce GR2
THEN you can compare it to The Last Guardian
When after 5 years there are rumors about the game being cancelled and Sony replies with "Of course it's not cancelled, it's still full in development, but we can't even share a screenshot right now".
When the Vita 2 gets announced and you are sure it's the perfect time to reintroduce GR2
THEN you can compare it to The Last Guardian
CrunchyFrog
Member
Both of you can get up and get in line behind Half life 3 and the shambling corpse of mega man legends 3
There's no way it's Vita exclusive anymore. Sony stopped all first party development on the machine.
Didn't see it. I'll search next time. Feel free to merge/split the topic.
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Just thought I would continue my conversation. I didn't think it was dead in the water, I was just surprised at the information. My joke towards TLG was nothing serious.
Ow! That table hit me D:
UberTag
Member
That's an insult to most Z-tier studios.
Sony Japan and Polyphony combined are a travesty.
Thank goodness From still likes working with them for exclusives.