Red Liquorice
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Good news, good news. I hope things sail smoothly and I can tie up my lose ends in game at the weekend. If everything is A-OK, I'm back on the DLC-train.
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Skyrim on PS3: The Last Stand / Update: Digital Foundry investigates
- Thread starter AgentOtaku
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I'm taking this advice. Four pages of people crying "Yay!" and really only two or three of these posts are actual feedback from people who updated and have started playing. Time will only tell....
True, the PS3 isn't that similar to develop on compared to the 360 and PS3. I still don't find that acceptable when the PS3 has been out for over 5 years though and this is isn't the first game Bethesda has created on the PS3.
People still have less than 1GB of ram in 2012? Damn.
You can buy a 300-400$ computer with 4GB nowadays.
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
I wonder if this fixes the random but persistent flickering shit I get on the 360 version.
AgentOtaku
Member
awesome!
Impeccable
Member
Last update probably since it appears it's completely fixed.
I'm still going in the same play session(Up to 6 almost 7 hours in a row), finished restoring the Thieves Guild(A LOT of fast travel) and now working on the last Daedric Artifact quests.
My final verdict is people can finally enjoy Skyrim on the PS3 without worry.
AgentOtaku
Member
Really curious at what they did
Maybe resetting/purging item placement/world continuity alot more often?
Notice if shit is dissapearing more often? lol
Maybe resetting/purging item placement/world continuity alot more often?
Notice if shit is dissapearing more often? lol
And tears of joy ran down my face
Tallshortman
Member
This game should have been delayed until they got the PS3 version in working order, this is absolutely ridiculous and the fact that so many people give Bethesda a free pass over this is saddening. I play the PC version but this whole situation is so bad. I guarantee you if this game was made by EA people would be up in arms (at least much more so than currently) over this.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
My understanding is they tracked every stupid thing ever done, they could have just added some priority system in place to solve the issue easily. I.e. priority 1: You kill someone, he stays killed .... Priority 10: A little rock you kicked has moved from it's original location. Items with priority 10 would be memorized for 5 minutes or so, then reset/purged. Items with priority 1 memorized forever.
Blue Ninja
Member
That's awesome, I'm glad to hear it.
sloppyjoe_gamer
Gold Member
Awesome news that the PS3 version is finally fixed.
Just started Kingdoms of Amalur, and im also playing Dark Souls, and have Jak and Daxter Collection still unopened. Im gonna wait for a while before jumping in, but im definitely going to now.
Just started Kingdoms of Amalur, and im also playing Dark Souls, and have Jak and Daxter Collection still unopened. Im gonna wait for a while before jumping in, but im definitely going to now.
We didn't give them a pass. We made a big stink about it and now we have a fix (apparently). If people didn't speak up Bethesda probably would have done nothing, like the last few broken games they've released on PS3 before Skyrim.
Tallshortman
Member
Given how wide spread and game breaking the problem was the situation definitely wasn't as kept in the public sphere of attention long enough. There was one week where it appeared a few times on popular blogs but beyond that it didn't get the attention I believe it should have. As you said, Bethesda has a history of releasing especially badly programmed games on the PS3 (of course they're badly programmed on the other systems, just to a lesser extent).
Red Liquorice
Member
Just updated now, don't have to time play it any further - just to make a new save, but when I loaded my old save, I immediately got quest notifications, so some of my bugged quests can now continue at least 
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make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
Oh god... I just strolled into Riverwood, at night... bored. I cast fury on a lone chicken and it turns hostile. Runs up to me to attack, but doesn't do any damage. Message pops up that I have a 5 gold bounty. Then the town dog runs over and kills the chicken. Message pops up that the last witness has been killed and my bounty removed.
Huh. Weird. But kind of funny.
I walk into the Inn. As I enter, someone says "did you hear that?" and suddenly everyone attacks me. I don't know what to do, so I take my death quickly, without any resistance. I was kinda hoping they'd fall back since I didn't have any weapons drawn. But they killed me. Because I cast fury on a chicken. Even though there weren't any witnesses that survived.
Anyway... game loads and I'm in the Inn again... "Did you hear that?" Yup. Autosave before the beat down.
And of course like an asshole I didn't save the game before entering Riverwood. So like two hours of dicking around in the wilderness and leveling got totally wiped out.
*sigh*
Otherwise the game is running pretty well. This is a new character though, and I haven't made it to Whiterun yet. So jury is still out.
Huh. Weird. But kind of funny.
I walk into the Inn. As I enter, someone says "did you hear that?" and suddenly everyone attacks me. I don't know what to do, so I take my death quickly, without any resistance. I was kinda hoping they'd fall back since I didn't have any weapons drawn. But they killed me. Because I cast fury on a chicken. Even though there weren't any witnesses that survived.
Anyway... game loads and I'm in the Inn again... "Did you hear that?" Yup. Autosave before the beat down.
And of course like an asshole I didn't save the game before entering Riverwood. So like two hours of dicking around in the wilderness and leveling got totally wiped out.
*sigh*
Otherwise the game is running pretty well. This is a new character though, and I haven't made it to Whiterun yet. So jury is still out.
disappeared
Banned
I happened to have my last save in Riften, pre-patch. I noticed almost immediately that the frame rate seemed smoother.
However, since I've been running the 360 version the past several weeks, the PS3 version has this really bad white-wash look to it. The black tones, textures, and overall look of the game appears much 'hazier' than the 360 build. Not a dealbreaker by any means (I ain't a huge graphics guy in the first place) but it was kind of noticeable.
However, since I've been running the 360 version the past several weeks, the PS3 version has this really bad white-wash look to it. The black tones, textures, and overall look of the game appears much 'hazier' than the 360 build. Not a dealbreaker by any means (I ain't a huge graphics guy in the first place) but it was kind of noticeable.
MrGreencastle
Member
Isn't that usually the case with multiplat releases on the PS3? I remember the same was true for Oblivion.
I think you missed the point dramatically.
disappeared
Banned
Yeah, I suppose. I guess I only noticed it because of how noticeable it was. Kind of a non-event though. Anyway, game does run smoother post-1.4. Here's hoping it stays that way.
Aizu_Itsuko
Member
So they finally fixed it? Should have been day one but now it's ok to purchase this game on PS3 based on impressions.
I still find the controls and gameplay to be mediocre at best though.
I still find the controls and gameplay to be mediocre at best though.
Please stop the BS. Uncharted 3 has no bugs that can be related to the wrist slicer that is Skyrim.
Eh?? That's how it's always been, even for PC. Gain some knowledge before posting.
Glad the game was finally patched. Took them long enough.
XANDER CAGE
Member
No! Wait! Konami doesn't publish Skyrim!
Nizz
Member
So it's good news finally for PS3 owners it seems. A shame the problem existed in the first place. If Digital Foundry revisits the game and it's smooth sailing I'll be glad to pick it up in the future to see what all the hype is about.
Couldn't stop hearing about this game a couple of months ago.
Couldn't stop hearing about this game a couple of months ago.
That's due to the gamma curve being different between the 360 and PS3. The PS3 actually has a more accurate gamma curve than 360 has, but the 360's piece-wise linear approximation to the standard gamma curve does make games look more contrast-y and appealing, if less realistic.
AgentOtaku
Member
woo!
I was actually going to try out the ps3 version for this very reason. I tried playing the 360 version but every time I entered a cave or something the black levels looked so crushed and dark that I couldn't make out my surroundings.
AgentOtaku
Member
Yeah, 360 version has some fucking NASTY black crush
AgentOtaku
Member
Hey guys, the Digital Foundry article will be up tomorrow morning (GMT), if you wanted a closer look at the patch differences.
Fantastic!
Looking forward to it immensely
Hey guys, the Digital Foundry article will be up tomorrow morning (GMT), if you wanted a closer look at the patch differences.
Awesome news. I hope the results of the analysis are as good as people's impressions have been.
Truespeed
Member
It's not the size of the memory, but how you use it.
GhostWriter24
Member
I'll buy this game from one of you when you're finished with it. Hell, I'll trade Modern Warfare 3 for it too, never play it.
HomerSimpson-Man
Member
Even the PC version was short changed from what it could be, remember it was only recently that they actually released the patch that accounted for the fact Bethesda didn't even compile the optimization flags on the PC build at release and also just released the higher res texture pack, both things should have been there day one also. That 11-11-11 release date really cut corners.
Building a game with the black crush of the inaccurate 360's gamma while the PS3 has an accurate gamma doesn't always transition well during multiplatform. It's nothing that proper calibration doesn't handle well. The 360 gamma still really skewed my home theater set-up with it's instense black crush.
I have a Pioneer Kuro, so having rich colors and the blackest of blacks is all good for me as most people's LCD look washed out to begin with in comparison, that 360 gamma initial output on it was too much. You can sort of emulate the intense black crush it if you set RGB to Full instead of limited if you tv doesn't support Full on the PS3.
I actually posted this in the Skyrim OT2 thread before finding this.
I hadn't played the game since December 9, today is the first time since. I had an 82hr game save that was at a point of playing for 30minutes and crashing the PS3, forcing me to run defrag.
With the patch, I played for 2 hours today....saw no stuttering, had no issues really at all. Mannequins actually work, as do my display cases now. I honestly didn't come across anything that used to bug me, so I'm pretty darn happy with it.
I hadn't played the game since December 9, today is the first time since. I had an 82hr game save that was at a point of playing for 30minutes and crashing the PS3, forcing me to run defrag.
With the patch, I played for 2 hours today....saw no stuttering, had no issues really at all. Mannequins actually work, as do my display cases now. I honestly didn't come across anything that used to bug me, so I'm pretty darn happy with it.
Nizz
Member
Thanks! The original video you guys did helped bring a lot of attention to this issue, glad you guys did this.Hey guys, the Digital Foundry article will be up tomorrow morning (GMT), if you wanted a closer look at the patch differences.
DF article is up!
As with my own experience, it's now fixed. But massive games do still seem to suffer a little bit framerate wise.
As with my own experience, it's now fixed. But massive games do still seem to suffer a little bit framerate wise.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-ps3-skyrim-lag-fixed
Very encouraging to read the article. So the problem will never be completely solved, but at least it's playable again. I'll likely play the game again this Summer.
Very encouraging to read the article. So the problem will never be completely solved, but at least it's playable again. I'll likely play the game again this Summer.
AgentOtaku
Member
Awesome, gonna request a thread title update
How do you increase your save file size? I'm at around 90 hours but my file is 9MB, whereas the DF test is using a 65 hour 11MB save.
Size depends on how much you interact with the world. Dropping items a lot, progressing through long quests, clearing locations and exploring the local map will increase it most (apparently messing with bookshelves will increase it too).