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[Caelus]

i.e, gamers just want a challenging Zelda game with a mature plot, an immersive - up-to date overworld, intelligent A.I., orchestral music and voice acting and the like. They don't want new quirky art styles, shallow, sugary animu storylines or motion control gimmicks. You're right, people just want to see the basics expanded upon and improved, and I think a majority of fans have finally realized this after TP. It's the primary reason why TP was so hyped to begin with, and why people were drooling over the tech demo footage shown at E3. Needless experiments with pointless art styles, dumbed-down difficulty and motion controls just comes off as lazy procrastination on Nintendo's part. It isn't going to revolutionize the series' foundations, and it isn't going to keep fans interested in the long run.

I don't know why I'm doing this, it's like I can't keep all this ridiculousness to myself.

 

[ASIS]

I don't know why I'm doing this, it's like I can't keep all this ridiculousness to myself.

Just don't bother reading anymore from that thread (yes, I know exactly where you got that from).

To me that site just proved to me why Zelda fans are one of the worst fanbases out there.

 

[Vanille]

So I'm watching videos I shouldn't be watching of this game... and I still can't fathom how fucking good this art direction this. It's the absolute best direction they've ever gone with in a Zelda-game. This will look good in 10 years. There, I said it.

Doubt it. It already looks dated in a few areas. It won't be nearly as timeless as WW.

 

[Caelus]

Just don't bother reading anymore from that thread (yes, I know exactly where you got that from).

To me that site just proved to me why Zelda fans are one of the worst fanbases out there.

I'm just not going to bother posting there anymore, now that that person's a moderator. -_-;;

On another note, does anyone know if the origins trailer is on the Nintendo Channel?

 

[Thoraxes]

omg, thank you for that link. you are a good person.

No problem!

At the time I just wanted cheap cables to go with my larger TV because regular ones just did not cut it once I had upgraded to a better TV. I figured for $5 I could take the risk and then just buy official ones if they failed me.

Doubt it. It already looks dated in a few areas. It won't be nearly as timeless as WW.

I think it will be, and it'll have the same longevity because people will eventually emulate it making it look x1000 prettier, just like people now do with WW.

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

Honestly I don't give a crap about motion controls in a Zelda game. All I care about is good art, creative central gameplay element and dungeons, and a giant seamless overworld (are we even getting one in SS?)

And stop with the fire, water, forest temples for crying out lound. There are quite a few dungeons in Zelda that haven't revolved around those elements.

 

[Yoshichan]

Indeed it is. I personally think it looks better than Wind Waker though I could see people liking the WW art style better.

Agreed!

 

[Caelus]

SS has my favorite art style of any game to date, but I still want my realistic Zelda that isn't drab TP.

Basically, I want SS with tons more detail and no cel-shading for the Wii U. Can you do that, Nintendo?

 

[brandonh83]

SS has my favorite art style of any game to date, but I still want my realistic Zelda that isn't drab TP.

Basically, I want SS with tons more detail and no cel-shading for the Wii U. Can you do that, Nintendo?

Yeah but HD dungeons are probably too hard.

 

[Caelus]

Yeah but HD dungeons are probably too hard.

Didn't Nintendo say they were getting help from HD developers? I heard that somewhere.

 

[Thoraxes]

SS has my favorite art style of any game to date, but I still want my realistic Zelda that isn't drab TP.

Basically, I want SS with tons more detail and no cel-shading for the Wii U. Can you do that, Nintendo?

I'm gonna hold out that they'll try an HD game that pushes the limits of the system. They've been really good with milking the Wii to its potential, so I hope they continue that trend with the Wii U. Maybe it'll be like the E3 Wii U demonstration, or for all we know, they'll choose a totally different art style.

 

[guek]

I'm gonna hold out that they'll try an HD game that pushes the limits of the system. They've been really good with milking the Wii to its potential, so I hope they continue that trend with the Wii U. Maybe it'll be like the E3 Wii U demonstration, or for all we know, they'll choose a totally different art style.

dude, people will literally weep when an actual HD zelda game is revealed. I'm expecting this times 100

 

[Yoshichan]

I already weeped when I saw the HD demonstration for Wii U ._.

 

[brandonh83]

Didn't Nintendo say they were getting help from HD developers? I heard that somewhere.

Just making a dig at Square and the whole HD towns fiasco, probably should have made that more evident.

 

[ASIS]

Honestly I don't give a crap about motion controls in a Zelda game. All I care about is good art, creative central gameplay element and dungeons, and a giant seamless overworld (are we even getting one in SS?)

And stop with the fire, water, forest temples for crying out lound. There are quite a few dungeons in Zelda that haven't revolved around those elements.

I honestly don't understand why this is such an annoyance to people. What's wrong with these elements?

 

[Sn4ke_911]

dude, people will literally weep when an actual HD zelda game is revealed. I'm expecting this times 100

One of the best moments in gaming history.

 

[guek]

this one is actually a better reaction than the one I posted. The guy screaming "OH MY GOD" always gets me

 

[cajunator]

dude, people will literally weep when an actual HD zelda game is revealed. I'm expecting this times 100

I was excited, but that reaction is pretty ridiculous. Although, it WAS a new Zelda and that's always reason to celebrate.

 

[WiiredShawn]

I'll admit that I was very excited about Twilight Princess, even though I adored Wind Waker in its entirety, but that fan reaction, through powerful, seriously makes me wonder if most of those screaming guys were just men who finally thought that Nintendo had reconciled their love of Zelda with their fear of emasculation by other dudebros.

In a way, I'm glad Twilight Princess didn't turn out nearly as gritty (in terms of tone) as people had expected, even though I secretly hoped TP would share Majora's Mask's dark undercurrent.

 

[Yoshichan]

Yeah the best thing that came from Twilight Princess was that air dungeon... and the mission where you need to save Midna (as Wolf-Link). That was really good.

 

[ASIS]

Yeah the best thing that came from Twilight Princess was that air dungeon... and the mission where you need to save Midna (as Wolf-Link). That was really good.

Excuse me? Lakebed temple + arbiter's grounds+ Snow Peak was TP's highlight. Literally every second was "0_0" worthy.

 

[cajunator]

TP was a really great game but I definitely found Wind Waker to be more memorable.

 

[Yoshichan]

Excuse me? Lakebed temple + arbiter's grounds+ Snow Peak was TP's highlight. Literally every second was "0_0" worthy.

lol had to Google every dungeon name! You're right about Snow Peak, but other than that, I'm not changing what I think about TP

 

[WiiredShawn]

I agree with you that saving Midna and the City in the Sky are some of the best segments (as well as the Arbiter Grounds). But I think those are so memorable because, in the case of the former, the game asks us to care about a character (unlike Illia, who ultimately proved to be nothing more than a plot device); and in the case of the latter, we are given a sense of mystery and adventure that could never be experienced otherwise. I remember the City in the Sky being so aesthetically interesting, so full of questions, which was enhanced by the fun of the dual clawshot and the final boss.

I don't want to make my love of Majora's Mask any more apparent, but for me, it had the best combination of mystery and empathy and adventure that no Zelda has really topped (though I accept that each game has different goals, which still make them enjoyable).

I don't really expect Skyward Sword to be another MM, but if it can manage to create interesting, empathetic characters, and uproot the tonality set by the colorful art style (like Wind Waker did), I will think all the more of it.

 

[Yoshichan]

All this talk about Majoras Mark lately... need to sit down and play it someday.

 

[WiiredShawn]

Yes, definitely. I was replaying it a few months back, on the GameCube, but it annoyingly froze just as I finished the Great Bay temple. That's why people need to keep harping for a 3DS remake, complete with overhauled graphics, and most importantly, NO GLITCHES.

 

[ASIS]

lol had to Google every dungeon name! You're right about Snow Peak, but other than that, I'm not changing what I think about TP

You need to go and play TP again! Those were awesome, awesome moments. I agree that City in the Sky was probably the best in terms of design, but I like the other ones better.

 

[Thoraxes]

dude, people will literally weep when an actual HD zelda game is revealed. I'm expecting this times 100

Well shit, i'll be right back. Also, that moment in gaming history is probbaly the most excited i've ever been for anything. That crowd is fucking amazing, and their reaction just gives me chills every time.

I'm going to watch this:

 

[Yoshichan]

You need to go and play TP again! Those were awesome, awesome moments. I agree that City in the Sky was probably the best in terms of design, but I like the other ones better.

I'll maybe do it after Skyward Sword! I haven't played a "Zelda" in a while so I don't want to "ruin the experience" by controlling Link until after SS

edit: probably sounds stupid as fuck... but that's how I am lol.

edit 2: omg I'm seeing 4D through Thoraxes' screenshot XD

 

[Caelus]

You need to go and play TP again! Those were awesome, awesome moments. I agree that City in the Sky was probably the best in terms of design, but I like the other ones better.

City in the Sky was ugly though, horrible color scheme. Although it had a nice interior.

 

[Yoshichan]

City in the Sky was ugly though, horrible color scheme. Although it had a nice interior.

Don't get me started on TP and "ugly", you wouldn't want that, trust me ^^. Then again, I did play it on a SDTV...

 

[ASIS]

City in the Sky was ugly though, horrible color scheme. Although it had a nice interior.

I'm talking about level design, that place had some brilliant puzzles, a brilliant item, and brilliant fights. It was also lengthy and very labyrinthian. Yet it's not my favorite out of TP, not by a long shot.

 

[Caelus]

Don't get me started on TP and "ugly", you wouldn't want that, trust me ^^. Then again, I did play it on a SDTV...

I played it on an LCD HDTV. Ugh. At least Hyrule Field was sexy...

Does any one have any tips for calibrating a Wii on a Sony Bravia?

I'm talking about level design, that place had some brilliant puzzles, a brilliant item, and brilliant fights. It was also lengthy and very labyrinthian. Yet it's not my favorite out of TP, not by a long shot.

That's why I said though, I appreciated the dungeon, although I'll play it with the TV off next time. ^^

 

[BY2K]

Spoiler

It tells you something when you compare Darksiders, which has 5 dungeons and last 15 hours to Skyward Sword which, apparently, has 6 full dungeons and last more than twice that. Without doing sidequests.

 

[Caelus]

Spoiler

It tells you something when you compare Darksiders, which has 5 dungeons and last 15 hours to Skyward Sword which, apparently, has 6 full dungeons and last more than twice that. Without doing sidequests.

Spoiler

Didn't they say Uncharted 3 was 8 hours or something? I find that weird.

 

[ASIS]

Spoiler

It tells you something when you compare Darksiders, which has 5 dungeons and last 15 hours to Skyward Sword which, apparently, has 6 full dungeons and last more than twice that. Without doing sidequests.

Spoiler

Number of dungeons hasn't been confirmed yet

 

[Yoshichan]

Um... spoilers out of nowhere? What are we talking about here?

 

[Man God]

Hell WW only has six or so real dungeons and takes longer than 15 hours.

 

[BY2K]

Spoiler

Number of dungeons hasn't been confirmed yet

Spoiler

That's why I said "apparently."

 

[ASIS]

Spoiler

That's why I said "apparently."

Spoiler

wow... second time I miss a keyword in a row... new record?

 

[Caelus]

Spoiler

wow... second time I miss a keyword in a row... new record?

Spoiler

No this is the second time.

 

[WiiredShawn]

Um... spoilers out of nowhere? What are we talking about here?

Probably nothing worth spoilering, just speculating on how much content Skyward Sword dungeons must have if the game's 6+ dungeons (we don't know the exact number) take at least 35 hours, not counting sidequests, and a game like Darksiders with 5 dungeons can be beaten in 15 hours.

Which just reminds me that Darksiders did not click with me at all. I didn't even earn a single achievement before I returned it.

 

[ASIS]

Spoiler

No this is the second time.

Ok now I'm completely lost.

Good night guys.

 

[Jocchan]

Which just reminds me that Darksiders did not click with me at all. I didn't even earn a single achievement before I returned it.

You get the first achievement within the first 15 minutes, and the game gets good after you get to the first dungeon (about one hour later).

 

[Red]

Hell WW only has six or so real dungeons and takes longer than 15 hours.

For all the wrong reasons

 

[BY2K]

You know, looking back at the Twilight Princess rumours, that game was never really spoiled.

We knew Ganon was in but that was only because Aonuma or Miyamoto said it himself. I don't think those SS rumours are true, but a few of them could be just lucky guesses.

 

[Tuck]

Hell WW only has six or so real dungeons and takes longer than 15 hours.

Keep in mind, it also has the triforce hunt.

 

[BY2K]

Keep in mind, it also has the triforce hunt.

Darksiders too had a hunt of that kind with the Armageddon Blade.

 

[dvolovets]

You know, looking back at the Twilight Princess rumours, that game was never really spoiled.

We knew Ganon was in but that was only because Aonuma or Miyamoto said it himself. I don't think those SS rumours are true, but a few of them could be just lucky guesses.

Pretty sure there was a huge leak two weeks or so before the release date, with somebody posting gameplay footage/screens from relatively late in the game.

 

[Kard8p3]

Pretty sure there was a huge leak two weeks or so before the release date, with somebody posting gameplay footage/screens from relatively late in the game.

Yeah there was some random blog that got it for review and posted pics and impressions of most of the game. Since I was on the gamefaqs TP board at the time I got spoiled due to people posting spoilers in the topic titles.