You mean the 5 articles that were positive about the Wii U in the last two years ??
Oh man, the hate is strong on Gaf :lol
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SM3DW sells 107k in Japan, lowest 3D Mario debut ever
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You mean the 5 articles that were positive about the Wii U in the last two years ??
Oh man, the hate is strong on Gaf :lol
God Dayumm
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Don't get your hopes down people. As much as I want to see blood and salt, we have to understand that Japan is a non-market and the game may see much better numbers in America.
Triggerhappytel
Member
That might be an interesting point; does anyone know how well Sonic Galaxy did on its first week?
considering those articles are mostly coming from the US and these numbers are for Japan I'd say there is no correlation between the two
The gamepad is too expensive for Nintendo to sell the system at that price.
SethADrekin
Banned
Overreaction much? They only have an Install base of 1 million people in Japan. 1/10 Is a pretty good attach rate by any standard. One game is not going to suddenly sell a Million Wii U's over night.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
it'll have legs but...Wii U is so done in Japan you guys
Dr. Randy Marsh
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Hasn't every Sonic game since 06 bombed horribly in Japan?
After the PS2 is when it really tanked.
The Wii did very well, but only with select software. The PS2 had very broadbase sales of many types of software, whereas by the Wii/PS3 time the DS had largely killed that.
Clinton514
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Good, maybe they can think about trying something different.
But launch titles generally do well and have many people buying whatever games are available for something to play.
Yea, definitely agree with those points.
Poor console/software sales won't stop the media from writing opinionated articles.
Bombed terribly.
Dropping 3D. Have you SEEN LBTW?
HolyBaikal
Banned
I'm sure that the sales will pick up for the game.
In particular, the sales are hampered by the fact the the Wii U's sales are low.
Many people who would be interested in this game simply haven't bought a Wii U yet.
Also, the console market appears to be struggling in Japan.
In particular, the sales are hampered by the fact the the Wii U's sales are low.
Many people who would be interested in this game simply haven't bought a Wii U yet.
Also, the console market appears to be struggling in Japan.
Man-is-Obsolete
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That to me is the problem. Nintendo was convinced more of the same is what people wanted, and they couldn't have been more wrong. They need a new IP or a fresh take on an existing IP bad. They really have become too predictable.
Nah GTA5 has sold over 600k in Japan now. Doing fine.
SethADrekin
Banned
That is not how Video Games work.
Nintendo needs one Good Game every month for the next 6 months.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Hoo boy you must've missed the debut of the latest Sonic game.
We have the perplexing scenario where Nintendo games don't really interest owners of a Nintendo console. I'm really curious not so much on what the other 90% are doing, but what the 90% would like (I can't necessarily say "looking for" because I'd bet a fair amount of the owners moved on to other consoles already).
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Time for NSMBU3.
michaelius
Banned
Fascinating. It was widely hailed as a fantastic game, a few people even going as far as calling it the best Mario...But Nintendo needs a larger install base to make games bigger hits.
It's a tough situation as they are already taking a loss on hardware, but I keep thinking it needs to be $200 for the good model, and after that games like this will drive sales more as it becomes more of an impulse. $300 is still a bit much, when compared to the old consoles which have huge game libraries already at similar or higher levels of detail and are selling for sometimes 130 dollars new.
What?? Japan isn't a non-market, it was always Nintendos STRONGEST market.
It's a tough situation as they are already taking a loss on hardware, but I keep thinking it needs to be $200 for the good model, and after that games like this will drive sales more as it becomes more of an impulse. $300 is still a bit much, when compared to the old consoles which have huge game libraries already at similar or higher levels of detail and are selling for sometimes 130 dollars new.
What?? Japan isn't a non-market, it was always Nintendos STRONGEST market.
hardcastlemccormick
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It's becoming astonishingly apparent that Nintendo only has the resources and IP to sustain one platform at a time. The player-base is very opposed to buying new hardware, much more so than any past generation. Nintendo should have converged their console and handheld lines by now, consolidated their digital offerings into a single store, and started allowing more second/third party developers to pump out anything based on their IP's.
What will happen now? Honestly I have no idea. This is unprecedented. If I were them I'd kill the WiiU and focus on the 3DS exclusively. It's the only system with any life in it in Japan. (The only reason why the Vita is considered "good" is in comparison to itself a year ago, it's still comatose)
What will happen now? Honestly I have no idea. This is unprecedented. If I were them I'd kill the WiiU and focus on the 3DS exclusively. It's the only system with any life in it in Japan. (The only reason why the Vita is considered "good" is in comparison to itself a year ago, it's still comatose)
quite a bit less than Mario 64 which was a LAUNCH TITLE.
sad. I did my part though, bought and love this game. However I will admit it just doesn't have the 'wow' factor that some previous 3d mario games had. Especially mario 64 which was revolutionary and awe-inspiring when it came out.
sad. I did my part though, bought and love this game. However I will admit it just doesn't have the 'wow' factor that some previous 3d mario games had. Especially mario 64 which was revolutionary and awe-inspiring when it came out.
Portugeezer
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But what... 1 in 10 Wii U owners bought SM3DW in Japan? Maybe they are saving for a PS4.
A bit over the top, no?
A bit over the top, no?
Rhazer Fusion
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Honestly, I am not surprised with the relatively low install base. If Mario 3D does not push Wii U, I'm not sure if anything can at this point. It seems like Japan doesn't buy much nowadays, especially on consoles. FF13: Lightning Returns sales aren't too great either. I even have some suspicions about how the PS4 will sale in Japan.
I thought maybe it could be franchise fatigue also.
Seriously, what are Wii U owners doing with their consoles? Watching Netflix only?
I thought maybe it could be franchise fatigue also.
Seriously, what are Wii U owners doing with their consoles? Watching Netflix only?
Captain Smoker
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And what exactly are you doing in your OP before I elaborate further?
Heavy's Sandvich
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Low install base really coming back to bite.
I hope it has greater success in North America and in Europe once it releases.
I hope it has greater success in North America and in Europe once it releases.
crazygambit
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Because of the tablet controller mostly. I feel that was probably a worse decision than Kinect on the Xbone.
Isn't the install base even lower there. I know it's essentially dead in Europe and selling below 50k a month in the US, so it's hard to have much faith.
Tesseract
Banned
yep.
Hypereides
Member
Not that surprising, Mario is kinda nearing series fatigue atm.
The way Nintendo continuosly keeps pushing more of these out at the current production speed, does harm to Marios popularity.
The way Nintendo continuosly keeps pushing more of these out at the current production speed, does harm to Marios popularity.
flatearthpandas
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One more step toward Dreamcast status, I guess.
If releasing great games isn't good enough for people, I don't know what else anyone wants. The system has some really good exclusives already and more coming.
Can only imagine how different things might be if third parties hadn't activeley sabotaged most of their titles, from stripping features to just charging over 50% more for certain titles than other consoles.
Oh well
If releasing great games isn't good enough for people, I don't know what else anyone wants. The system has some really good exclusives already and more coming.
Can only imagine how different things might be if third parties hadn't activeley sabotaged most of their titles, from stripping features to just charging over 50% more for certain titles than other consoles.
Oh well
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