Kai is basically just an edit of Z with the most of the filler removed. I'd say it's what you're looking for.
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So, is Dragon Ball Super any good?
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Kai is basically just an edit of Z with the most of the filler removed. I'd say it's what you're looking for.
MrMatt555
Member
So Kai is Canon?
Is this Goku Black?
Wow there's a new Saiyan character in DB Super
He looks cool
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
honestly I'm having a hard time seeing people jumping into Z without at least looking at DB's final arc
Kai isthe original series with the filler bits taken out. Same animation and everything.
It's easy, I did it myself
Super continues on from Kai.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Kai matches the manga more due to the removal of fillers
These fillers sometime contradict new material down the road, as the manga is written without regards to the anime.
So yah, watch the Kai is enough. In fact i will suggest it
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
Just started watching Super this weekend in dubbed form. So far so good. I'm on like episode 9 or 10 when I left off last night.
I think my only complaint so far is while it was cool to see like literally everyone back together on the ship it felt kinda hollow?
What was cool in some of the other sagas is while it was always a Saiyan usually Goku that saved the day in the end at least you saw the other characters improving in their own right.
Instead in this it seems like Goku and Vegeta are training to get better and everyone else is just hanging out at their old power level like Piccolo, Tien, Krillin ect...
I think my only complaint so far is while it was cool to see like literally everyone back together on the ship it felt kinda hollow?
What was cool in some of the other sagas is while it was always a Saiyan usually Goku that saved the day in the end at least you saw the other characters improving in their own right.
Instead in this it seems like Goku and Vegeta are training to get better and everyone else is just hanging out at their old power level like Piccolo, Tien, Krillin ect...
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
why not just watch abridged lol
yeah but Piccolo's arc wouldn't really have that much impact right
yeah but Piccolo's arc wouldn't really have that much impact right
ArchedThunder
Banned
That changes, also keep in mind that the first two arcs are just retellings of movies.
100% should have ended with Trunks just fucking Zamasu up.
Such a stupid, overly complicated route they took.
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
Wasn't the whole point of it to set up the bring-another-Zeno-back-to-the-present thing due to that universe needing to be erased?
Crossing Eden
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That's an inbetween frame, and going off model in shots like that is sort of the point behind in between frames in the first place. A hold like in that frame above looks quite terrible since it's not an inbetween.
DeployThatPizza
Member
Having binge watched it the past few days, I enjoyed it.
No it actually looks like that during that shot. Go back and watch it again.
I did, then watched Dragon Ball after DBZ.
I think it works fine, sure knowing Piccolo's story helps, but I was a little disappointed at how they hyped up Piccolo as this evil person who will never change, and then he changes to good early on in the next series.
ArchedThunder
Banned
Its pretty good that considered and they'll probably touch it up for the home video release
The Super shot is from an episode almost entirely animated by one guy.
HazySaiyan
Banned
As great and DBZA is, it's hardly going to give you a proper version of the events. The characters and jokes are also a lot funnier if you already have knowledge of the actual series.
Bigboss242
Banned
Agreed but as a fan I couldn't help it. Had more fun rewatching GT to be honest.
Crossing Eden
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I mean yea it's poorly animated, but it's still an inbetween frame that isn't meant to be paused on.
You see that's a better comparison as that's a still shot.
The Super shot is from an episode almost entirely animated by one guy.
It's decent.
The first half is pretty bad, since they're bad recaps of movies stretched over an entire season. The first original arc is... disappointing. It had some promise, and brought back a fan favorite (Future Trunks) but the execution and writing just wasn't there. The current arc is actually pretty good, making good use out of setting in a way DBZ hasn't since the Frieza saga.
The show still suffers from key issues. The art is generally poor and overcorrected. Animation is below par (unless it's fucking amazing), and the pacing is still garbage.
Oh and the false equivalences are ridiculous.
For every shot of this, there are 10-15 poor looking shots in Super.
The first half is pretty bad, since they're bad recaps of movies stretched over an entire season. The first original arc is... disappointing. It had some promise, and brought back a fan favorite (Future Trunks) but the execution and writing just wasn't there. The current arc is actually pretty good, making good use out of setting in a way DBZ hasn't since the Frieza saga.
The show still suffers from key issues. The art is generally poor and overcorrected. Animation is below par (unless it's fucking amazing), and the pacing is still garbage.
Oh and the false equivalences are ridiculous.
For every shot of this, there are 10-15 poor looking shots in Super.
ArchedThunder
Banned
The art is pretty consistent now, with Z you would get entire episodes that looked bad, Super has gotten past that, now it's just bad shots here and there scatter through out the episodes.
I don't think people remember that Uchiyama and Ebisawa were pretty bad artists and the majority of the original 3 series were supervised by those two.
Sure it's gotten more consistent, but the show just straight up does not look as good as the original show. And there's reason for that, because DBS is overcorrected to hell and back. Dragon Ball Z worked because it had free-form cartoony aesthetic. Like, compare this animation to this. Sure the latter is probably more consistent, but the first example is so much more fun and dynamic.
That isn't to say DBS is bad in the visuals department, because when it wants to be good, it's damn good, but I generally preferred the original DBZs animation.