I asked you what we wanted though, not whether Super has been alright or not. I mean, I dunno, it's not anyone really expected DBZ to make a comeback in 2015 after all this time. I know I sure as hell didn't. After all, it's not like it ended at a point where it was dying to be continued like say, Samurai Jack or something. At best, it's safe to say people wanted these three things at least from any potential new show imo:
- A show that's better than GT (In the beginning, this was dicey...)
- A female Super Saiyan
- Gohan being relevant again
Other than that, I mean, I can't say I really had any specific expectations tbh
- A show that's better than GT (In the beginning, this was dicey...)
- A female Super Saiyan
- Gohan being relevant again
Other than that, I mean, I can't say I really had any specific expectations tbh[/QUOTE]
The comeback thing was just on Toriyamas' hands though since DB has always been popular, I mean with no anime and manga its sales on gamed dvd blueray and other things just crush the other series from Japan
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As for me just the classic formula is fine as long as its well executed but to realize that you have to create an enemy that has some sort or relations with the Z cast and the fight feels meaningful and has some weight to it.
Never saw the Gohan thing a problem tbh, he was revelant in all of Z, him taking a backseat was ok for me since it goes with the character(always hated fighting). I think that people asking for him appeared after the BOG/ROF movies thought since he was treated like a Yamcha lol.
It also has tons of great character moments for the entire cast something Z and GT were missing by the end. Vegeta, Krillin, Gohan, Piccolo all got great moments from Super more than Z or GT ever gave them.
But this isn't true though, they have gotten like 1 episode in super and Krilin got half episode of fight, in GT he was an oldman and in Z he had plenty of action, Piccolo fought till the android and acted as a teacher to the Kids during Buu, in GT saved Goku and assisted him in hell, while in super fought Frost and thats it. The " other characters are getting great moments" is a bit overrated as a concept imho but we will see with the tournament.
So what concept wouldn't feel like fanfiction? Because blue feels less fanfiction-y than SSJ4, a transformation that brings the ape forms back, even tough it has been stated that it holds back the Saiyans power
The ape form was a great multiplier but it hold back the Saiyans in the sense that the weaker one couldn't control it and only the elite know how to recreate that moon thing(+ the size and speed). When the supersaiyan was first shown he had the form of a golden ape, GT went back on that and made Goku go SSJ Ape which was basically his SSJ3 form with the Ape multiplier, after seeing Pan cry he was able to control it and channel the energy in his normal body to become a ssj4. Its a tribute to early Z not much of a retcone/fanfic (in that sense every form after the first super saiyan is a retcone)