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So, is Dragon Ball Super any good?
- Thread starter Realeza
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DBZ is the show that taught me not to care lol
ArchedThunder
Banned
If you think Vegeta is comic relief then you clearly haven't watched much of the show. He has some comedic moments and that's it. I don't see how you could watch 42 episodes and think he's comic relief, and that's not even mentioning all the shit he does after episode 42.
Username1198
Member
Oh thank god. I'm watching it on adult swim and golden freeza suuuuuucks lol.
But as someone who only watched DBZ back in the day, super is pretty fun to watch. THeres still tons of boring filler, but it's still pretty fun to watch. I'm glad they still do the best cliffhangers. And Beerus is a fun character, I hope he sticks around.
Also, can anyone tell me if gohan actually starts training ? He was getting wrecked by freeza and his goons lol . I wanna see Gohan destroy bad guys
The Silver
Member
man Toriyama must have been running out of ideas all the way back in Dragonball, i don't know how you got past watching that
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
The art was still more pleasing to the eye and its highlights shit over anything DBS has produced.
The character art alone makes it better.
Are you new to Shonen? There being a lack of any structure to the power levels in DBS is just another testament to its poor writing.
Toriyama noted that tournament arcs tended to bring in the most amount of readers. That's why there was so many of them from different manga.
Won't lie, more interesting arc yet lol
Pankratous
Member
I love it because I'm a big DB fan overall, but relative to Z it is kind of shitty.
Monochromaticx
Member
its ok.
there are alot of plot holes, there is way less violence compared to db and dbz. still enjoyable tho.
no
there are alot of plot holes, there is way less violence compared to db and dbz. still enjoyable tho.
no
Unknown One
Member
Super has terrible music as well, gone are the days with Kageyama, aka Mr. DBZl. It is replaced with generic Jpop music.
One thing that it's definitely better than Z is wasting time.
You really have to rewatch Z and DB just to see how every exchange had 2 minutes of reactions from everybody. Man.
How long was the recent
Minutes?
In DBZ that would've taken 4 episodes.
You really have to rewatch Z and DB just to see how every exchange had 2 minutes of reactions from everybody. Man.
How long was the recent
Vegito and then F Trunks fight?
In DBZ that would've taken 4 episodes.
BudokaiMR2
Member
To be quite honest, I'm not gonna be watching very many Shonen shows for their writing, least of all DB.
Alternatively, you must be an edgelord to not be able to enjoy what is basically just Anime comfort food.
The only reason I caught up recently is because a bunch of designers I work with (who have been creating amazing content for decades) couldn't stop going on about how fun and silly it was during a drink-up. I'm pretty sure they could tear the show a new one in ways you couldn't imagine if they actually cared to. The difference is they have grown up to the point where they can appreciate the show for what it is instead of getting caught up their own ass trying to criticize it.
Stairouais
Member
You can't argue that DBZ used way too much padding. But the pacing of the fights, and the cinematography (not to mention the music) was much more influenced by Spaghetti Western. Removing that from the show is probably one of the reason why a lot of people who grew up watching DB / z in the 80's can't stand DBS.
Yeah. The biggest problem is that animators back in the old days still had Toriyama's drawings to use for reference.
Would you like some vomit with your fries sir ?
plentyofmilhouse
Member
Super is like a good blend of the goofier lightheartedness of Dragon Ball with -some- elements of the high stakes battles and vast world building of Z.
Everyone in the main and new extended cast feels like they have moments to shine which wasn't really the case toward the end of Z.
Pacing is good too. It really pops along, sometimes even a little too fast without leaving big events enough time to breathe.
If that sounds alright to you... you'll probably have fun.
The only thing that -really- sucks is the art and animation being so inconsistent, meaning it only occasionally rises above passable and is often fairly hideous.
That said about the art, the new filter they added over the Tournament of Power episodes has really helped the visuals. Nicer line weights and colouring that makes it appear a little closer to cel animation which is always welcome. It looked too digital and flat before.
Can't speak too much for the dub, I watch in Japanese, but what I've seen of it has been solid like Kai and BOG/ROF films. Dubbed Dragon Ball has become very good in recent years.
Everyone in the main and new extended cast feels like they have moments to shine which wasn't really the case toward the end of Z.
Pacing is good too. It really pops along, sometimes even a little too fast without leaving big events enough time to breathe.
If that sounds alright to you... you'll probably have fun.
The only thing that -really- sucks is the art and animation being so inconsistent, meaning it only occasionally rises above passable and is often fairly hideous.
That said about the art, the new filter they added over the Tournament of Power episodes has really helped the visuals. Nicer line weights and colouring that makes it appear a little closer to cel animation which is always welcome. It looked too digital and flat before.
Can't speak too much for the dub, I watch in Japanese, but what I've seen of it has been solid like Kai and BOG/ROF films. Dubbed Dragon Ball has become very good in recent years.
If we apply this type of logic. DB and DBZ would not hold up either.
sleverfunk
Member
You're not seriously saying that the ToP arc has been visually inconsistent and hideous on regular basis, I hope ?
Because even if you dislike the art style, as in, your personal preferences don't fit, the show has gotten extremely consistent and had much more ambitious color work and storyboarding compared to the underwhelming first arcs.
There have been only a couple of episodes that looked bad so far, that's a rather decent ratio.
Riposte
Member
Isn't he based on Anubis, who is a dog-man?
he's based on a cat Toriyama had
Given the importance of Dragon Ball i refuse to consider it "comfort food" that's why it's a disappointment of colossal scale and that's also why i'm pretty sure that a good chunk that watches and enjoy Super are the same people that can stomach watching all the anime seasons every year, not that there is something wrong with that but i can't nor want to compare Super to the random low budget anime made by some F tier studio that pop up every season.
Does that make me an edgelord? ok i will accept that but insulting me will not change my idea.
I might agree up to a certain point (DB is absolutely awesome in every way, DBZ... less.) but DB in general has a certain historical value that goes beyond its objective qualities.
Holy Order Sol
Member
it's Dragon Ball as fuck which makes it auto-good
-Pyromaniac-
Member
I was really skeptical before getting into it but once I caught up I thought and still do think that it's a good show.
I rewatched DB and DBZ coincidentally right before they announced Super. The old series had moments that dragged on, awful art and animation at times, etc.
I feel like people forgot as much as DBZ had amazing highs there were quite a few slogs.
Super feels pretty similar, for better or worse.
I feel like people forgot as much as DBZ had amazing highs there were quite a few slogs.
Super feels pretty similar, for better or worse.
Luckily our younger selfs never noticed.
If you watched it on Toonami, you mostly watched reruns anyway.
Cartoon Network actually, they always aired it around dinner time too which sucked.
BudokaiMR2
Member
Protip: If you don't wanna be called an edge lord don't throw around condescending 'child' insults about Shonen Anime of all things.
Also, comfort food is in no way an insult or demeaning and I wouldn't consider calling trash F tier Anime the same thing.
It's a term to denote a food that brings back good memories of your past. Heh.
But i didn't meant that as insult, you inverted cause and effect.
"If you are a kid you are going to like Super" not "You like Super then you must be a kid lololol".
Again you misunderstood me, i'm not saying that "comfort food" anime equals to F tier anime... i'm saying that who watches and enjoys Super are (in my opinion) the same kind of people that are used to watch tons of things all the time that highly fluctuates in quality from bottom of the barrel to upper echelon so they are willing to compare Super to trash tier stuff and look at it favourably and enjoy because objectively it's really not THAT bad.
I'm not that kind of person and therefore i cannot enjoy it that way.
There is no ill meaning behind my opinion on who watches and enjoys Super.
I like it. Good world building, and the current arc has brought back many secondary/tertiary characters plus introduced over 100 new ones.
First two movie retelling arcs are solid if you never watched it. every thing after varies from "decent" to "great" and its only getting better.
The best moment in the entire show just happened a few weeks ago and some insane shit is going to happen within the next couple weeks
First two movie retelling arcs are solid if you never watched it. every thing after varies from "decent" to "great" and its only getting better.
The best moment in the entire show just happened a few weeks ago and some insane shit is going to happen within the next couple weeks
I've been meaning to get into Super but - like, can you really just skip the first two arcs and watch the movies? I'd rather not slog through them if they're as meh as I hear, but I was concerned the retellings would introduce new plot threads or characters and I'd end up missing something important.
Also how often does Jaco show up? The standalone manga is probably the best thing Toriyama's done since the first half of Dragon Ball and I'd hate to see him fucked up by poor writing and such.
Also how often does Jaco show up? The standalone manga is probably the best thing Toriyama's done since the first half of Dragon Ball and I'd hate to see him fucked up by poor writing and such.
It's a very different beast from DBZ. Much more humor, and not really a feeling of dread and despair so far. The latter I attribute partially to the show taking place before the end of Z, meaning you know everyone from the core cast is going to make it.
It's okay. It's really nothing special, but still watchable enough.
It's okay. It's really nothing special, but still watchable enough.
sleverfunk
Member
You won't miss much. So just watch the 2 movies and go straight to the next arc.
Yes, watch the extended cut of battle of gods and then the freeza movie. You can start super from ep 28 then.
kitsunelaine
Banned
There's not much of a jump between "if you're a kid you're gonna enjoy super" and "only kids enjoy super" if you don't do anything to elaborate.
Uno Venova
Banned
Man Z looks so much better than Super its sad.
not this
Couple that with the loss of Falcouner and you just know Super will never reach the heights of DBZ, but its simply an OK show.
Sony
Nintendo
The Dragonball Super OT, first post, is a pretty good guide on everything Super, including advise on how to best start watching the series.