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Sonic Mania Denuvo DRM cracked
- Thread starter Crimsonclaw111
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SinCityAssassin
Member
What are the chances that comes to consoles in a short span of time.
Eolz
Member
Piston Hyundai
Member
it'd be pretty funny if it ends up being cracked in less time than it took to implement it
did you see the stream where they announced it
because it totally was
did you see the stream where they announced it
because it totally was
BasilZero
Member
How long does it take for them to remove it once it's cracked?
ldcommando
Banned
Cpy is probably all like "gotta crack fast".
You can't play the game offline, to begin with.
If you bought it in the last 14 days and played it less than two hours, you can.
-MD-
Member
If you have less than 2 hours played steam will refund it.
If it isn't patched out or cracked, you'll forever lose access to the game when the Denuvo servers inevitably go down in the future.
Judge Magister Zexion
Banned
The offline issue is not Denuvo, it's some form of proprietary DRM the Devs added. The error message is different compared to the one denuvo sends.
CecilRousso
Member
And down to the bottom of the priority list of games to purchase it goes.
Now back to playing my full price purchase of the XCOM2 expansion, without Denuvo.
Just look for any Denuvo related thread, and follow the discussion. Plenty of sound arguments are given in pretty much all of them.
Now back to playing my full price purchase of the XCOM2 expansion, without Denuvo.
Just look for any Denuvo related thread, and follow the discussion. Plenty of sound arguments are given in pretty much all of them.
Oh wow, I completely forgot the always online bullshit with Denuvo. Tried logging in once online and then playing offline but it just says you need to be logged in to play. Not sure since I pre-ordered it elsewhere at a discount, but hopefully I can just refund this and get another version instead.
NoKisum
Member
I haven't played it, but I preordered it about a month ago I think. Sounds like I'm screwed.
Google Securom incompatibility with Windows 10 and have a look at some of the games affected. Denuvo is the next DRM method from the same developers, and has a similar potential to leave games unplayable if their servers are deactivated or the OS blocks the DRM.
Juke Joint Jezebel
Member
Was gonna double dip with the Switch version and this. Think I'll be skipping the PC version now though.
Refund period for pre-order games starts on release day. So you're good to go for the next two weeks, provided you haven't played more than two hours.
Piston Hyundai
Member
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbqPX15G9_0
it's not the full thing, but the stream was thrown together on short notice and the dude was in a meeting right before the announcement
Davey Cakes
Member
Personally, I just want to play the game and the PC version is the only one I have access to.
I don't care about mods so I guess it'll be no issue for me. *shrug*
No you're fine, it's from day 0, go for it.
FallingEdge
Member
you should be fine, follow the steam refund process and go from there
Preorder time doesn't count, the 14 days count basically starts today.
Filled out and passed it along to friends who aren't too thrilled about the DRM. Hopefully it gets removed soon. The game is too good to have this kind of shit happening to it
synce
Member
That was the most transparent bullshitting ever with the delay. This is one way to outright lie and deceive your customers, really thought Sega was better than this.
Also no mention of it anywhere on the store page, as if you're not entitled to know your game won't be playable offline without jumping through hoops, and may not be playable at all in 10 years.
Also no mention of it anywhere on the store page, as if you're not entitled to know your game won't be playable offline without jumping through hoops, and may not be playable at all in 10 years.
Denuvo does limit modding. Not sure why you bring up games with built in tools to make and share mods. That's not what people are complaining about.
Another reason this is a dumb post is because no, FO4 and Skyrim SE do not have Denuvo. Nice try tho
CecilRousso
Member
You're asking what the problem with excessive DRM is?
And if there's something wrong with something so generally despised?
Right. Short summary:
1, It hides a server depency to a 3rd party Amazon server, that's needed for installation (and often updates to the game or your computer), otherwise you won't get to play your game. If the server would be taken down with the DRM removed, the game will become unavailable.
2. It only serves a purpose when it's uncracked and no drm free version is available, so you won't get releases at GOG or similiar sites until it's removed.
3. It only serves a purpose for the developer/publisher (if even that). You as a customer have no benefit of it.
4. If if implemented wrong, it can effect the performance of the game.
5. It can limit modding of games.
shotgunbob04
Member
Hopefully sarcastic lol
This, and another great way to get Sega's attention about this issue is to not purchase this version of the game. Money speaks the loudest.
Can someone explain Denovo and why there's this big backlash around it?
Edit:
Getting it for Switch was definitely the best move.
Edit:
So Sega are basically removing the customers' rights with this move?You're asking what the problem with excessive DRM is?
And if there's something wrong with something so generally despised?
Right. Short summary:
1, It hides a server depency to a 3rd party Amazon server, that's needed for installation (and often updates to the game or your computer), otherwise you won't get to play your game. If the server would be taken down with the DRM removed, the game will become unavailable.
2. It only serves a purpose when it's uncracked and no drm free version is available, so you won't get releases at GOG or similiar sites until it's removed.
3. It only serves a purpose for the developer/publisher (if even that). You as a customer have no benefit of it.
4. If if implemented wrong, it can effect the performance of the game.
5. It can limit modding of games.
Getting it for Switch was definitely the best move.
You're asking what the problem with excessive DRM is?
And if there's something wrong with something so generally despised?
Right. Short summary:
1, It hides a server depency to a 3rd party Amazon server, that's needed for installation (and often updates to the game or your computer), otherwise you won't get to play your game. If the server would be taken down with the DRM removed, the game will become unavailable.
2. It only serves a purpose when it's uncracked and no drm free version is available, so you won't get releases at GOG or similiar sites until it's removed.
3. It only serves a purpose for the developer/publisher (if even that). You as a customer have no benefit of it.
4. If if implemented wrong, it can effect the performance of the game.
5. It can limit modding of games.
Shit. Yeah that sucks.
sixteen-bit
Member
That's why it was delayed?
rochellepaws
Member
Was wondering what the catch would be, seemed like the delay was to prevent the PC version from muddying the reviews and reception for one reason or another.
You are missing my point:
Denuvo doesn't allow complex modding, which is the reason why a publisher known to use this drm, makes an exception with those games.
PhantomThief
Banned
Oh come on.. I have friends waiting to buy this
guess i gotta eat crow on this one
HoodWinked
Member
smaller file sized games are much more severely pirated, sonic mania is under 200mb on the switch.
this game is so small nearly all file hosts won't even need to split the file into chunks. downloading 200mb on broadband only takes 3 minutes or less.
its probably a steam key so its the same as just buying it on steam
this game is so small nearly all file hosts won't even need to split the file into chunks. downloading 200mb on broadband only takes 3 minutes or less.
its probably a steam key so its the same as just buying it on steam