I NEED SCISSORS
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Some sort of combo of Netflix + Plus + maybe Gaikai if the Vita streaming isn't shit would be appealing. I can't imagine they'd allow Spotify on PS4 since they want Music Unlimited to sell, but that could also be nice to have.
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Sony considering Gold, Silver & Platinum memberships for PS4's online services
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Read the article instead of replying to the title.
Yep.
They can put the fancy stuff behind a paywall, but what's free on the PS3 better still be on the PS4.
Kenshin001
Member
They already have Silver and Gold now essentially with PS+. By adding more features they would create the Platinum tier.
Dragon1893
Member
Yup. There may be other services that are worth paying for and that's fine but don't mess with what we have now.
I don't think it would be prudent for them to lock existing free services behind a paywall in next gen. But I'm more convinced than ever that nearly every new service available for PS4, except for, say, uploading videos to YouTube, will require some form of subscription fee.
I'm disappointed to say the least, as I'm happily a non-subscriber to anything and don't really intend to change that any time soon.
Theoretically, from a gamer perspective, sure. Yet the costs of maintaining the infrastructure for gaikai and having enough hardware running to give access to all those instant-access games are much too high to simply incorporate into a typical PS+ subscription. It seems unrealistic when looking at it financially.
The_Hitcher89
Member
I dunno man. Someone has to pay for those servers. I'm pretty convinced that it will need to be behind a paywall or have as many ads as the XBox dashboard to be sustainable. The days of Ken "This feature is awesome so screw the cost" Kutaragi are done, unfortunately.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
What ever top tier is ill buy it.
Super happy with PS+
Locking MP behind a pay wall is no concern personally either. I pay XBL Gold anyway
Super happy with PS+
Locking MP behind a pay wall is no concern personally either. I pay XBL Gold anyway
Won't "those servers" just be Ustream/YouTube? If it drives increased traffic to their sites, increased ad revenue means it should pay for itself.
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Google pays for those servers, not sure why Sony would charge for it
Nealand Liquor
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I think one of MS's biggest mistakes next gen will be to keep media apps behind the live paywall. It made sense before SmartTV, roku, and the numerous other media streaming devices hit the market, but it doesn't make sense now. I honestly believe that placing *media apps behind a paywall is going to devalue any product that does so going forward.
*I am only referring to apps for subscription and free services such as Netflix, YouTube, etc.
*I am only referring to apps for subscription and free services such as Netflix, YouTube, etc.
Yeah I'm with this guy. Same with Live and whatever top tier Sony brings.
People call it a "pay wall", I call it a pay "pebble/crumb".
I don't expect them to deliver all this insanity in one package for free.
Dark Octave
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The lack of a "Gold" type of subscription is one of the main reasons I am considering moving from the Xbox as my main console to the Playstation in the next gen. It's terrible to hold basic services ransom for a premeum.
I hope that if Sony does this, they leave it the way it is with PS+ as "gold" and include their Gaikai as "platnum" or something to that effect. Just as long as they don't take away basic stuff like browsing, Netflix, youtube and online multiplayer.
A Netflix like service for PS1, PS2 and PS3 games sounds super exciting.
I hope that if Sony does this, they leave it the way it is with PS+ as "gold" and include their Gaikai as "platnum" or something to that effect. Just as long as they don't take away basic stuff like browsing, Netflix, youtube and online multiplayer.
A Netflix like service for PS1, PS2 and PS3 games sounds super exciting.
TheLegendOfMart
Banned
Someone didn't read the full article. He was talking about the Gakai stuff, not online services as a whole.
Ze_Pershing
Member
Have to repeat what everyone says here so Sony know what's up...
MP and chats for free and do whatever you have to with the rest
MP and chats for free and do whatever you have to with the rest
Aphallatosis
Member
What servers? Facebook? Ustream? That's always been the problem with paying for multiplayer on Live they aren't really doing much of anything.
I'm not talking about them streaming games to you over Gaikai. That would be an actual service they're providing. Recording/uploading your own videos is paid for when you buy the hardware as far as I'm concerned.
Yes, COULD.
It could if the majority of it's user base had 50+mbs connections with unlimited bandwidth which the majority don't. Like i said in the other thread this whole "streaming" games idea on paper is great but until those kinds of speeds and unlimited bandwidth become the norm this will never be as big as they want it to be. There is a reason places like Redbox still exist and still rent out movies like crazy, because people don't have the bandwidth to stream 1080p movies whenever they want, same goes for people still buying dvds/blu-rays. This isn't the PC market, the console market is as big as it is because of of ease of use and lack of high end bandwidth, people want to buy a game and stick it in and play and not have to download a 20-40gb game.
Oh, have I missed something? I was assuming that the social features including sharing would all be rolled up into Sony's own offering the way they were showing it at the conference, but if they've said they'll just leverage YouTube, then fantastic.
SolsticeZero
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Agreed. I really like to think that Sony took a look at the stuff they screwed up on this last generation with an intent to fix it. I <3 you Sony!
Exactly.
Diablohead
Member
If multiplayer stays as a free for all deal, I am all for some premium packages on the ps4
I never watch movies on my consoles but if there was something like PS+ and included the game streaming services I would pay for it, long as it was reasonable.
I never watch movies on my consoles but if there was something like PS+ and included the game streaming services I would pay for it, long as it was reasonable.
JordanLMiller
Member
Please keep a free option too.
iceatcs
Junior Member
But there is no need to remove this feature because not everyone have speed or bandwidth.
It is the future, like it or not. The speed and bandwidth don't stay same forever, it will improve eventually.
GrandHarrier
Member
Sony gonna make you paaaaaay!
I honestly believe they will pay wall many features like MS. It makes too much sense. They'd be dumb not too.
I honestly believe they will pay wall many features like MS. It makes too much sense. They'd be dumb not too.
Oppo
Member
Well, as Yoshida said – with regard to streaming games, they need to start somewhere.
And the console still has a disc drive.
Yeah, we've seen Ustream mentioned officially as well as Facebook. I can't recall if YT specifically has been name dropped - but the thing all of those services have in common is that they want that content up on their site, because it pulls more users in.
Exactly. Services like this are more likely to cause change in the future and push ISPs into evolving their infrastructure. Typically every year, speeds increase, caps increase, and they will continue to do so as services like google fiber will eventually expand. Competition will force ISPs to match it or become irrelevant.
I love PS+ and assume it'll be expanded and improved for PS4, but I'm not crazy about multiple tiers. Keep it a simple yes/no thing and add Gaikai and whatever new stuff they can think of (like being able to stream from your console directly to Twitch or something) and that would be fine, but having 3 or more options just strikes me as needlessly complicated.
AranhaHunter
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I said this in another thread:
PSN Bronze - what the current PSN is. Free multiplayer, access to the store, demos, apps, netflix, etc. I believe cross game chat and party chat will be free as well. I also think share/upload your games will be free.
PSN Silver - what the current PS+ is. Bronze + IGC, major discounts on games, 1GB cloud storage for vita, ps3, ps4 each, automatic downloads, etc. $50/year
PSN Gold - Silver+ play as you install, see what others are playing, help others with their games, cloud saving (directly saving on the cloud and locally as opposed to having to do it manually as is now), bigger cloud storage, maybe 5GBs each, and all other stuff they talked about on the 20th. $70/year
PSN Platinum - Gold + gaikai netflix like service streaming of games. $100-$200+/year depending on selection of games
PSN Bronze - what the current PSN is. Free multiplayer, access to the store, demos, apps, netflix, etc. I believe cross game chat and party chat will be free as well. I also think share/upload your games will be free.
PSN Silver - what the current PS+ is. Bronze + IGC, major discounts on games, 1GB cloud storage for vita, ps3, ps4 each, automatic downloads, etc. $50/year
PSN Gold - Silver+ play as you install, see what others are playing, help others with their games, cloud saving (directly saving on the cloud and locally as opposed to having to do it manually as is now), bigger cloud storage, maybe 5GBs each, and all other stuff they talked about on the 20th. $70/year
PSN Platinum - Gold + gaikai netflix like service streaming of games. $100-$200+/year depending on selection of games
That's pretty good then. I can see how it would be mutually beneficial for both Sony and the content sites, but I also know that all the console manufacturers do enjoy controlling content end to end. Glad to see Sony's being smarter than that here.
Tiers goes against what they said at the PS4 reveal of they want the PS4 to be "simple, elegant, etc". Tiers for PS+ is going to do nothing but confuse the shit out of the customer, its a terrible idea. Ustream and facebook are free so why put them behind a pay wall?
Here is how it should go:
Everything the OS can do = free
Gaikai for PS3 BC = PS+
That's it, nice and simple right Sony?
Here is how it should go:
Everything the OS can do = free
Gaikai for PS3 BC = PS+
That's it, nice and simple right Sony?
How incredible would it be if we got most/all PS1/PS2/PS3 titles for streaming through a Netflix style subscription? I can't even comprehend the logistics behind it (such as Sony paying devs/publishers royalties and whatnot) but it would be sensational if they're able to pull it off.
I'd easily pay $10 or $15 a month for such a feature.
I'd easily pay $10 or $15 a month for such a feature.
MikeE21286
Member
I've been saying/predicting this for awhile now.
It absolutely makes the most sense IMO.
It absolutely makes the most sense IMO.
Hah. Know what's worse? I'm in SCEE territory but have invested in SCEA PS+