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Lol would it make you feel worst if I said I never played the other game either the first one icoThe amount of people in this thread that never played SOTC before is too damn high!
Lol would it make you feel worst if I said I never played the other game either the first one icoThe amount of people in this thread that never played SOTC before is too damn high!
lol trueThe amount of people in this thread that never played SOTC before is too damn high!
Everyone has their preferences.I always hear people say they love the PS4 platform for the exclusive games, but other than one or two on this list, there is really nothing that interests me at all.
Well no, not just that, I mean for me even their non-Japanese style single player games are strong like Horizon Zero Dawn, inFAMOUS, Uncharted 4 & Lost Legacy, Until Dawn, Resogun, Tearaway, MLB etc. And have a good upcoming lineup with Spider-Man, God of War, Detroit, Days Gone, The Last Of Us 2. I'd be totally more than satisfied with just that, but then on top of it there's the japanese offerings and it really takes it to another level after the likes of Bloodborne, Gravity Rush, Yakuza, Persona get thrown into the mix.However, I am not a big fan of the Japanese style singleplayer games, so maybe that's what everyone loves?
I mean for me even their non-Japanese style single player games are strong like Horizon Zero Dawn, inFAMOUS, Uncharted 4 & Lost Legacy, Until Dawn, Resogun, Tearaway, MLB etc. And have a good upcoming lineup with Spider-Man, God of War, Detroit, Days Gone, The Last Of Us 2. I'd be totally more than satisfied with just that, but then on top of it there's the japanese offerings and it really takes it to another level after the likes of Bloodborne, Gravity Rush, Yakuza, Persona get thrown into the mix.
But yeah, it may be their general focus of what to offer via exclusives may not gel with you. Like for instance, I can totally understand if someone is into multiplayer games mainly, that they would likely not be into the PS4 exclusive offering.
Yeah I am kind of in the boat where I mainly play multiplayer games. The only PS exclusives I am interested in TLOU and Horizon Zero Dawn, also Days Gone in the future. However, I hardly like any of the Xbox exclusives either, only Forza and State of Decay mainly.
You're focusing too much on Spider-Man outselling another game. It doesn't matter if it fails to outsell Part II. Spider-Man being successful on its own is more important because of what it could potentially mean for the Sony x Marvel partnership.
100% day one purchases -
1. Days Gone
2. God of War
3. The Last of Us Part II
4. Spider Man
50/50 -
1. Death Stranding
2. Detroit: Become Human
Zero interest -
1. Dreams
2. Shadow of the Colossus
Also have the Horizon DLC pre-ordered since June or something like that. Days Gone is my number one most wanted game overall but I also think that it's at least a year away.
I'm confused. I said Spider-Man would be Sony's most important game, and then you responded to me saying TLoU 2 would sell more.
You heard it here first. Spider-Man PS4 to sell in the region of 24-30 million copies.
and we will never hear it again. 10 - 15 million will be far closer.
What does "most important game" even mean if not the "biggest success"?
How are you ascribing importance? On what basis are you defining it?
I think from Sony's perspective, their own (fully owned) IP are more important to them than an IP licensed from Marvel.
So whatever way you're defining importance, I disagree that Spider-man would be more important to Sony than their own IPs.
Not that I agree with him, but Spider-man has much more casual appeal than pretty much anything else in Sony's lineup, the closest thing being TLoU2 because zombies. Spider-man has a fanbase that reaches much, much further than the main gamer demographic.
At this point in the console life-cycle, appealing to the more casual market starts becoming more and more important to keep sales momentum. A good Spidey game will sell consoles because Spidey.
When we consider that it's the very same casual gamer consumer-base who are less informed and thus got burned out by the last decade of shitty Spider-man games, it becomes clearer that the sales picture isn't as straightforward as, "Spider-man is a huge IP, thus a game based on it will sell gangbusters".
It definitely isn't a straightforward proposition, indeed. My main point was that, given a good game and competent marketing campaign, Spider-man has the potential to have a larger impact on the future of the PS4 as a platform, because it has potential to drive growth regardless of being the biggest seller.
What does "most important game" even mean if not the "biggest success"?
How are you ascribing importance? On what basis are you defining it?
I think from Sony's perspective, their own (fully owned) IP are more important to them than an IP licensed from Marvel.
So whatever way you're defining importance, I disagree that Spider-man would be more important to Sony than their own IPs.
Horizon Zero Dawn Complete Edition announced:
https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/915611755434401792
Those answers... *roll eyes*
You heard it here first. Spider-Man PS4 to sell in the region of 24-30 million copies.
For Spidey to sell 24-30 million on the PS4...
That is effectively saying it'll sell in the ballpark of GTAV on a single platform.
That's not true at all. Hasn't GTA V sold more than double that?
That said, I think Spider-Man will sell about 7 million copies.
What does "most important game" even mean if not the "biggest success"?
How are you ascribing importance? On what basis are you defining it?
I think from Sony's perspective, their own (fully owned) IP are more important to them than an IP licensed from Marvel.
So whatever way you're defining importance, I disagree that Spider-man would be more important to Sony than their own IPs.
Still far too optimistic... I'm thinking more 5-7m.
Wait; who is claiming that Spider-Man will sell 24 - 30 million copies?! They're joking; right?!
Hell no, even the low budget mediocre Spiderman games sells buttloads, this time with Insomniac going all in and could possibly be the best Spiderman game of all time Spiderman will triple TLOU sales
TLOU mostly by PS fans and Spiderman bought by the majority even people from other platforms this game can be a system seller to them
Important is probably the wrong word. What I'm saying is I think the possible consequences of it being a success are a bigger deal.
80 million across 5 platforms.
In the mainstream gaming consciousness Sony has maybe 4 brands which will create ripples as big as Spider-Man (God of War possible, Uncharted, The Last of Us, Gran Turismo). If they get a Spider-Man game as good as the Arkham games and market it right it'll be a huge success for them.
Yes, this seems realistic. But even so, 5-7 million sales for a first-party exclusive is massive; especially for what would effectively be the first game in a new series.
Aren't you contradicting yourself here?
Uncharted 4 has already sold well over 7m. TLOU2 will break 10m without blinking, GoW is very likely to exceed 7m and GT Sport has a good chance. Hell, Horizon Zero Dawn may already be past this number.
Yes Spider-man is a huge IP, but the reality is that this has never historically translated to a Spider-man game selling gangbusters... Ok, you can argue that we've never had an Insomniac Spider-man game, which is true, but the Insomniac seal of quality isn't going to automatically produce a major sales success... Sony still needs to get the marketing on point, and the game still needs to overcome the history of the last decade of shitty Spider-man games that may have left a bad taste in the mouths of more casual gamers (who are unlikely to even know who Insomniac are).
Sales numbers are only a part of what I was talking about, so no it's not a contradiction. Everyone knows Spider-Man. My 4 year old son knows Spider-Man, but of course he doesn't know GoW or Uncharted or TLoU or GT. My 70 year old dad knows Spider-Man, even though he doesn't give a shit about games. Like I said, if the game is good (it will be) and Sony market it strongly (they will do) then it has potential to be huge. Quite possibly more than 5-7 million, but stepping away from hyperbole and trying to be realistic I think that's a pretty safe range in which to expect. You can't really compare it to previous Spidey games, because Activision has almost always given them a lower budget and shat them out as quickly and uncaringly as possible to make the most of the license, which seems to be the polar opposite of what Marvel, Insomniac and Sony are doing with this instalment.
Seems like there might be good stuff at PGW
"You won't want to miss this!"
https://twitter.com/sidshuman/status/915867652790165504
Sid doesn't always do this. I think he might have done for PSX last year and there was part 2.
Media people must know already about most announcements, right?
Media people must know already about most announcements, right?
Dreams will 100% be there Im sure of itIt's got to be Dreams. It simply has to be there.
Hype!Seems like there might be good stuff at PGW
"You wont want to miss this!"
https://twitter.com/sidshuman/status/915867652790165504
Sid doesn't always do this. I think he might have done for PSX last year and there was part 2.
Media people must know already about most announcements, right?
And hopefully a couple other games announced at E3 2015.It's got to be Dreams. It simply has to be there.
You mean Horizon Zero Dawn? Or No Man's Sky? Maybe The Last Guardian? Or possibly Street Fighter V?And hopefully a couple other games announced at E3 2015.