Wow this thread. Going to take a good, hard look at it after I finish this game...
A dev posted about this:It's hard to say Sony's marketing is bad when they recently put out the fastest selling console ever and have managed to sell their recent first party offerings really well.
I don't like, or even understand why they're showing their prettiest game in shoddy ways, but I don't know that it's bad marketing.
I've been on gaf for quite a while, this is not a new thing. I actually enjoy reading the hyperbole, and seeing how others either support or try to tear it apart.
Also, the stream portion is just something new. Sure, streaming quality wasn't fantastic since it's not a perfect technology, but there's plenty of time to release full high quality videos down the road. We can also start focusing on the aspects many gaffers in this thread have asked to know more about, and try to answer those questions and inquiries as best as we can.
So keep with the chatter, I always try to read all of it.
Looks spectacular. Sadly also super lame when it comes to gameplay/combat. How can anyone get exited for this in 2014. Looks like a standard 2007 cover shooter but worse (again, talking about gameplay).
They're trying to promote two things, Twitch on PS4 and The OrderAll of this could have been avoided had they released some HQ footage. Why do Sony developers in particular continue to do this of late?
First it was Drive Club and the IGN disaster and now its 1886 with twitch stream footage that makes the both look worse than it is and makes it look like it suffers from technical issues.
Get your shit together Sony. A 30 second HQ clip sent to Gamersyde would have done a much better job building hype than this 3min twitch stream footage.
Sigh. It's not even worth getting upset about any more...they won't learn.
Wow this thread. Going to take a good, hard look at it after I finish this game...
Sure the teaser could be an interesting idea but the execution was terrible. Why stream over Twitch? Now instead of people talking about the game you've created some discussion about potential performance issues.
Marketing is all about perceptions, do you think they created largely positive impressions from the teaser?
I've been on gaf for quite a while, this is not a new thing. I actually enjoy reading the hyperbole, and seeing how others either support or try to tear it apart.
Also, the stream portion is just something new. Sure, streaming quality wasn't fantastic since it's not a perfect technology, but there's plenty of time to release full high quality videos down the road. We can also start focusing on the aspects many gaffers in this thread have asked to know more about, and try to answer those questions and inquiries as best as we can.
So keep with the chatter, I always try to read all of it.
oh this thread would be a good look back once the game is out yeah . Whichever way it turns out its going to be pretty funny.
Sure, I didn't mean that as like teasing or rubbing their faces in it, I really would like to hear impressions. I have a PC and have played plenty of PC games, but I don't have a really high end PC and don't really know how the best on PC compares.
For example, I thought InFamous looked really insane, but lots of PC people were saying it didn't even meet Sleeping Dogs level on a really nice PC.
This is the first game that visually looks like it's doing something different, not just doing what last gen did but with nicer assets and IQ.
Wow this thread. Going to take a good, hard look at it after I finish this game...
It's hard to say Sony's marketing is bad when they recently put out the fastest selling console ever and have managed to sell their recent first party offerings really well.
I don't like, or even understand why they're showing their prettiest game in shoddy ways, but I don't know that it's bad marketing.
Driveclub is bad example to give, its marketing has been criticised heavily. It only takes 1 impressive looking demo to get rid of all the negativity, if sony show what makes this game so different to other tps like investigation scenes and warewolves everyone will forget this.I said backfired because the video should be bringing in the hype. Driveclub and Sunset Overdrive did just that. The video for The Order just brought in questions of fps issues, screen tearing, and downgrades. It should not be doing that. Without showing the video at this time it would of saved the image of the game a lot better. I'm just saying they should of waited til E3, because in my opinion this just made the game look bad.
It's hard to say Sony's marketing is bad when they recently put out the fastest selling console ever and have managed to sell their recent first party offerings really well.
I don't like, or even understand why they're showing their prettiest game in shoddy ways, but I don't know that it's bad marketing.
I said backfired because the video should be bringing in the hype. Driveclub and Sunset Overdrive did just that. The video for The Order just brought in questions of fps issues, screen tearing, and downgrades. It should not be doing that. Without showing the video at this time it would of saved the image of the game a lot better. I'm just saying they should of waited til E3, because in my opinion this just made the game look bad.
Grey. Grey everywhere...
Damn he has gray hair now??? O-O
What?Second game they've done it to now. It's really hard to see it as an isolated incident...
They must know how much people want direct feed HQ footage and yet they still continue to showcase their games with LQ garbage feeds. It's annoying.
I would like to see the monsters next time! Very curious to see the creatures from
that E3 reveal trailer.
Please be werewolves
What did the twitch stream do better then a video hosted on playstation blog or youtube couldn't?
The performance would be better.
I meant after I am done playing my current game.
Wow this thread. Going to take a good, hard look at it after I finish this game...
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Aside from the different clothes, the lighting is also different.
It's hard to say Sony's marketing is bad when they recently put out the fastest selling console ever and have managed to sell their recent first party offerings really well.
I don't like, or even understand why they're showing their prettiest game in shoddy ways, but I don't know that it's bad marketing.
They're trying to promote two things, Twitch on PS4 and The Order
Ruh Oh ban hammer gonna come down hard on a few posters here.
I honestly don't see what all the fuss is about, did they mention if this was a early build?
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Aside from the different clothes, the lighting is also different.
This pretty much is exactly my impressions as well. I prefer organic gameplay over this extremely scripted style.Whenever I watch these early gameplay videos I'm trying to get a sense of what I'll be doing - as the player - and the kind of choices I'll make, either from moment to moment or as part of a longer term strategy.
In this video, with me as the player, I watch a cut-scene which then puts me into a firefight on street level. Cover to the left with allied AI using it, cover to the right with allied AI, and cover forward in the street with another allied AI using it. I guess I'd use the big ole empty cover in the middle for this firefight then.
Now, I'm behind cover, what are my choices? There doesn't seem to be any real need to advance as the enemies are all at height, and no reason to look for alternative cover spots for angles or defensive moves since nothing the enemy is doing looks to affect me here. So my choices are really in which order to take the enemy positions down in.
Once that's done the game literally asks you to fire your special weapon attack into the building's second floor so you can see a canned explosion and advance the checkpoint forward.
Then policeman guy gets downed and you're asked to attend to him. You get to move up and hit triangle, at which point you're now stuck on rails while a line of enemies will walk on to a rooftop in the open and fire on you at point blank range with their pistols. The choice here is the same, to prioritize who to shoot, only now you've got no cover to work with.
Once you take down those enemies in whatever order since they're all the same, you get another cut-scene and the story moves forward.
So, as a showcase of visuals, this video is fine. As a showcase for gameplay, nothing that's come out for this game looks engaging in the slightest. No interesting choices to be made whatsoever.
If there's a fun game in there, I'd love to see it at some point.
I'm not insisting at all,I don't want to prove anything.
In the interviews they have been pretty much clear about what this game is about, an interactive linear cinematic experience with shooting mechanics. It's their definition about the game. Read the interviews with Ru Weerasuriya.
About the rest, the answer is in the video. You get an animation of the the two main characters dragging the wounded guy inside, it's an animation and while that happens you're given the freedom to shoot the enemies on the balcony and that's it. It's not really free action and that's why many here are complaining.
The point is that they expect something the game isn't, when they showed the first gameplay a couple of months ago people complained because they couldn't see enough freedom,it seemed on rail, now they're complaining again for the same reasons. Two times in a row a bad choice for a trailer? Or maybe the game is what you see, an interactive cinematic experience like the developers have claimed themselves it to be?
But I guess that the E3 demo will probably clear the doubts.
What?
Devs always really videos on youtube it was nothing new, what is rare is getting better quality videos.
why are people going to get banned? I just skipped to the last page.
:/ :/ :/Sounds a bit like some PR spinning with that comment. Whether it is or not, this pre-E3 preview seemed to backfire on them.
There would be some 'it'd look better at 4k/120Hz, lol' or whatever, but it's interesting to see what a ground up top tier next gen title includes visually.That's cool. But the usual PC owners here on Gaf seem to think PS4 is just a low end laptop powered console and are quick to come in PS4 threads to remind everybody. I don't want to know what they think.
Riiiiight.
If you're deaf, how are you reading and responding.
Lol, give yourself away much?
Dude, I'm not blind. you fucking dumbass.
:/ :/ :/
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I said backfired because the video should be bringing in the hype. Driveclub and Sunset Overdrive did just that. The video for The Order just brought in questions of fps issues, screen tearing, and downgrades. It should not be doing that. Without showing the video at this time it would of saved the image of the game a lot better. I'm just saying they should of waited til E3, because in my opinion this just made the game look bad.
Where are all the colours Penny Dreadful?
They decided to go for a different look and atmosphere, got nothing to do with downgrade.
Outfits will likely change over time in the game as you progress.
Green is all the color a show needs.
Where are all the colours Penny Dreadful?