Infinite Justice
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I wonder if this 3 years is their worse case scenario.
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Sony to sell PlayStation Vita for a loss, Profitable within 3yrs
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demosthenes
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Price to build will fall with time. The 3 years most likely has that and price drops built into it.viciouskillersquirrel said:
outunderthestars
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claviertekky said:
All companies except for (greedy) Nintendo sell hardware at a loss at launch.....
SolidSnakex
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TheOddOne said:
I'm talking about the people that seem to think that Sony can't do this.
onQ123 said:
Which proves that Sony doesn't know how to build reasonable hardware. I wonder how many people are gonna shell out for a Vita version of a game when a better PS3 version can be had? Let's face it, it's entirely unlikley the Vita will get any system selling exclusives.
Sony subscribes the the Tim Taylor school of console design. "More Power, ar ar ar ar ar"
Risky? Perhaps. PSP price was that system's failure, but this time they're intent on stealing away a much bigger share of the handheld market. Vita provides much more value compared to the 3DS at equal price.
This time the 3DS is the fail unless they dramatically drop the price soon.
This time the 3DS is the fail unless they dramatically drop the price soon.
Mariah Carey
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YOU DON'T SAY
perfectnight
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bummyhead said:
lol
outunderthestars
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bummyhead said:
Gravity says hello.
sixteen-bit
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I guess they're really confident software sales will make up for it.
Callibretto
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Seventh said:
maybe they're trying to keep the price competitive and down to mainstream price as fast as possible through that 3 years. so let's say they take small loss during launch, first chance they succeed to reduce the manufacturing cost, they'll reduce the retail price of Vita too and keep taking losses instead of try to make profit. hopefully in 3 years, they've finally settle to mainstream prices, make a small profit for it, and already have big user base. 3 years seems like a long time, but we can assume Vita will last longer than 5 or 6 years.
SolidSnakex said:
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perfectchaos007
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Mama Robotnik said:
That's pretty much what I'm thinking. But I guess the good news is that even PSP wasn't hacked right away, it took some time. So if they can stave off getting broken for 2 or 3 years then suddenly they are already making profit on each unit sold. ( I wonder if this prediction of profitability includes planned price drops or not? )
lowrider007
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Mama Robotnik said:
If PSVita was to become hacked I really don't foresee it being as detrimental to the system as it was with the PSP, I think if the PSVita can sell ok out of the gate and keep up a respectable momentum in sales I think third party support with be much stronger this time around, also being that this systems online features will be much more important to people that will also help.
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outunderthestars said:
viciouskillersquirrel
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Again, I say - no room to manouever if sales tank. Price drops that are planned years ahead of time usually make a bunch of assumptions regarding the product life cycle, which can often be wrong.demosthenes said:
OneMoreQuestion
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I'm sure the Japanese would lap this up just for the chance to play Monster Hunter 3rd with the right analog stick for the camera.
outunderthestars
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I really don't want Sony to ever stop doing their thing. Make me awesome hardware, and then support it by creating unique 1st/2nd person studio created games.
If I owned a 3DS I'd be pissed off right now that it certainly looks like Nintendo gouged the fuck out of the price of the hardware.
Then again Nintendo sells N64 games for $40 and gameboy color roms for $6.....
If I owned a 3DS I'd be pissed off right now that it certainly looks like Nintendo gouged the fuck out of the price of the hardware.
Then again Nintendo sells N64 games for $40 and gameboy color roms for $6.....
scorpscarx
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I've been reading this thread and honestly, I am more concerned with the desire to use this as a web-browser, game machine for at night laying in bed. Any news on the quality of the web-browser? Or OLED's ability to display text.
On topic though, Sony makes amazing hardware, and saying they sell it at a loss should only increase the consumer's demand for it.
On topic though, Sony makes amazing hardware, and saying they sell it at a loss should only increase the consumer's demand for it.
outunderthestars
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BorkBork said:
It took the PSP several years to be profitable as well.
titiklabingapat
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Good for consumers but whether or not they want to pay that price for ANY handheld is the big question, no matter the tech. Saying stuff like 'you're getting alot for the price' don't really jive as well as a 'good enough' tech at a lower price.
They are in a tough position though. The gaming division is already bleeding all kinds of red, and with the PS4 yet to launch, you will have two loss leaders for the foreseeable future.
They are in a tough position though. The gaming division is already bleeding all kinds of red, and with the PS4 yet to launch, you will have two loss leaders for the foreseeable future.
zerodayPopbot
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Never change Sony. I wouldn't be looking so forward to Vita if it wasn't such a beast.
Justin_Bailey
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Why are some of you so worried about Sony selling this for a loss? You honestly think this piece of hardware is going to make or break the company? Sony is a global corporation that has had its share of successes and failures in history. They are not betting the farm on this handheld.
Seriously guys, you bitch if they price hardware too high, and when they finally make something affordable, we find a way to complain about that too.
Seriously guys, you bitch if they price hardware too high, and when they finally make something affordable, we find a way to complain about that too.
Callibretto
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scorpscarx said:
OLED for web browsing Gaf (white background) on 3G connection is gonna suck that battery down pretty quick.
googleplex
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Any loss will most likely be made up by the purchase of an over priced memory card.
And they won't take a loss on the 3g sku, due to it being subsidized by AT&T contracts.
And they won't take a loss on the 3g sku, due to it being subsidized by AT&T contracts.
timetokill
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In other words, they can't afford price drops any time soon, while Nintendo can?
Things gonna get interestin'.
Things gonna get interestin'.
Callibretto
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Justin_Bailey said:
are we complaining? I think we're just concerned. I love Sony for making this dream hand held device, but I do want them to succeed so they can keep doing stuff like this. how would you feel if after Vita and PS3 less than stellar success, Sony decide to make PS4 just marginally better than PS3? considering that my interest is in this powerful device.
StickSoldier
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Wasn't it obvious that they were selling it a loss when they announced it at $250? Nintendo is making profit off the 3DS, and I'm sure they'll sell a lot more of systems with the upcoming games.
Phonomezer
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outunderthestars said:
Yeah but they can make up for it with software sales - the PSP's weakest point.
outunderthestars
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googleplex said:
The 3g unit isn't subsidized. That said I imagine Sony will get a percentage of the montly service fees.
$50 is the cost of the 3g radio chip.