outunderthestars
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Phonomezer said:
The psp has sold almost 300 million piece of software. At roughly $5 per game in royalties, that is over a billion dollars of royalty money alone....
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Sony to sell PlayStation Vita for a loss, Profitable within 3yrs
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The psp has sold almost 300 million piece of software. At roughly $5 per game in royalties, that is over a billion dollars of royalty money alone....
babyghost853
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Bad_Boy said:
You are ok with a lot of things you shouldn't be ok with, $50 games means this thing is DOA, $35 at most. Here's to hoping you are wrong again.
googleplex
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Wait....isn't that what subsidized means?outunderthestars said:
zerodayPopbot
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At launch alone I'll probably get Uncharted, Wipeout, Stardust and Little Deviants, so I'm doing my part.
outunderthestars
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googleplex said:
subsidized would be if AT&T sold the 3g Vita for $100 but made you sign a two year contract for data. They subsidize the price of the hardware, and make it up over time.
That is why you cannot buy an iphone for $200 without a contract, yet you can buy an ipad without one. the iphone is subsidized, whereas the ipad and vita are not.
I kind of wish Sony wouldn't operate like this. I'm okay with waiting a little longer and getting a better product as a result of developers/R&D staff feeling like they could take their time and get it right
As it stands we'll get a neat device with freaking bubbles on the UI. But it's okay because they're taking a loss on it
As it stands we'll get a neat device with freaking bubbles on the UI. But it's okay because they're taking a loss on it
outunderthestars
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Delio said:
I'll pay $50 for Uncharted before I pay $40 for a N64 port like Starfox/Zelda
How can Sony sustain such a model now a days? It's not like they are coming off a stellar cycle like the PS2's. If they plan on Vita being profitable in 3 years when the hell do they plan on launching the PS4? I can only assume they will again take the same approach when they launch the PS4. I mean does Sony ever plan to be profitable?
outunderthestars
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Delio said:
not at all! play what you enjoy.
I'm trying to understand the hypocricy here I see from some people...
$250 is a fair price when the company loses money but bad when the company profits?
And $40 is too much for portable games on 3DS but $50 is good on Vita?
Love what you love, buy what you want, but stop being ridiculous.
"History will teach us nothing."
$250 is a fair price when the company loses money but bad when the company profits?
And $40 is too much for portable games on 3DS but $50 is good on Vita?
Love what you love, buy what you want, but stop being ridiculous.
"History will teach us nothing."
Chuck Norris
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Does that mean they will turn a profit on the whole venture or one each unit sold?
Because turning a profit on the venture would include start up costs and R&D which are at 4 - 800 million based on their R&D reports.
I imagine they'll be selling at a loss but it won't take too long for them to be making a profit on each unit sold.
Because turning a profit on the venture would include start up costs and R&D which are at 4 - 800 million based on their R&D reports.
I imagine they'll be selling at a loss but it won't take too long for them to be making a profit on each unit sold.
Justin_Bailey
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Way too many people making a mountain out of a molehole. This isn't going to be another PSP Go. OLED Touch Screen/Dual Analog Sticks, graphics on par with PS3/Xbox 360. You can't say they aren't giving people what they want. Whether or not people buy it will be up to us, the consumers. You can't fault them for making it affordable for us, even if it ends up being a loss for them for a few years. It's really not a big deal.
kinoki
Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
I'll be doing my part and buying software and plus services. I really am a sucker, though. I own like 30 UMDs for the PSP so I helped make that profitable so I'm guessing I'll help make VITA profitable too.
outunderthestars
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kinoki said:
How is the plus service? I just ordered a PS3 today and am thinking about Plus....
Mama Robotnik
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So the best case scenario is that Vita is a wild success, and any losses are easily recovered through software and accessory sales.
And the worst case scenario is it gets hacked in its first week by the many hackers who are now specifically targeting Sony, leading for pirates to build on their work and pirate the hell out of it, resulting in a financial implosion for the company.
Risky business this video games lark.
And the worst case scenario is it gets hacked in its first week by the many hackers who are now specifically targeting Sony, leading for pirates to build on their work and pirate the hell out of it, resulting in a financial implosion for the company.
Risky business this video games lark.
googleplex
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Or AT&T could be selling 300 dollar PSV and subsidizing the loss/lack of profits by selling contracts. AT&T aren't going to be selling games like game stop to make money.outunderthestars said:
If Sony is getting a cut of that monthly contract you can bet their going to make that 3g sku as attractive as possible. I'm thinking that the 3g sku will come with a memory card and a game.
Lagspike_exe
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It's a risky strategy, but what were they suppose to do? Sell it at $299, or, even worst, $349? It would have been dead in the water.
Besides, we don't know how much does it cost to make. They may be losing something minor, such as $20, but aren't expecting processor shrinkage for a few years or something similar. There are multiple possible scenarios.
Besides, we don't know how much does it cost to make. They may be losing something minor, such as $20, but aren't expecting processor shrinkage for a few years or something similar. There are multiple possible scenarios.
Justin_Bailey
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Faxanadu said:
I think people are ok with spending more for higher tech. Correct me if i'm wrong everyone....
I mean obviously you're asking why are people not happy about paying $250 for the new Nintendo handheld, but don't seem to mind with Sony's?
I think alot of it also has to do with past history. Sony launched PS3 for $599. Most people expected Vita to be $300 or $349 (if not $399)
Chuck Norris
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Everybody in this thread seems to be confusing selling the system at a loss with turning a profit in three years. The article states nothing about selling the system at a loss for three years, it says Sony will have a profit on Vita in three years. Obviously you'd have to be making back money at some point on the investment in order to become profitable on the investment. It could just mean Sony will be making such a tiny amount back off the system that it will take that long for the project to get in the black
Justin_Bailey
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DiscoJer said:
Vita games will be $49.99 MSRP - book it!
viciouskillersquirrel
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You may be an insane right-wing narcissist and a loon, but you make a good point, Chuck Norris. The wording is ambiguous here.Chuck Norris said:
googleplex
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No people don't like paying 250 for old and dated hardware, but people don't mind paying 250 for advanced forward thinking hardware.Faxanadu said:
Go figure.
Justin_Bailey
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googleplex said:
Exactly. I think it's really that simple. State of the art handheld for $250 or another DS that has a 3D gimmick (and Nintendo 1st party games)
ShockingAlberto
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Did I miss something? I checked the OP and didn't see anything about $50 games. Is that the confirmed MSRP?
RustyNails
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$39.99. Calling it.Justin_Bailey said:
Dreams-Visions
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would be the only deal-breaker.DR3AM said:
opticalmace
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$43.61. Calling it.RustyNails said: