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Soulcalibur V |OT| Go home and be a salary man!
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Freshmaker
I am Korean.
What's her 4a?
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
Dunno why buffering a throw break wouldn't be legit. You still have to guess right. Also kinda limits your ability to move or do anything else but stand and guard so you have a major tradeoff there.
Alx
Member
Sorry to ask questions about the basics of the game, but since the manual won't help me...
I was wondering how a certain special move worked, that is when an opponent launches a Critical Edge just after what looks like a Guard Impact (green bubble). Is it the critical edge move itself that involves an auto-GI, or does the player need to input the CE command just after the GI ? (it sounds impossible to do at my level...).
I was wondering how a certain special move worked, that is when an opponent launches a Critical Edge just after what looks like a Guard Impact (green bubble). Is it the critical edge move itself that involves an auto-GI, or does the player need to input the CE command just after the GI ? (it sounds impossible to do at my level...).
AlphaDragoon
Member
Certain characters, like Xiba and Nightmare, have Critical Edge attacks that GI automatically before the move comes out. That's probably what you're seeing.
Still trying to get better with Alpha Pat, getting some of the JF attacks down now but not all of them. If anyone wants to do some matches let me know, my tag's AlphaDragoon02 on PSN.
DR2K
Banned
Yep, game is great overall. Minus a few missing characters it's got everything you could want from SC.
Hrmm looked up the attack. 4A is at -8, which means there's nothing I can do to interrupt the next attacks I believe. Not sure how the impact / disadvantage works with chains....
Guess I'll have to test.
My friend GI's with Xiba and Siegfried if he has 2 bars pretty consistently. Its far from a joke or useless. Half bar to a 60 percent combo and a free mixup is pretty sweet to me. I do prefer using my meter for BE's but generally I'll almost always be fully loaded by the 3rd so i rarely have to choose.
Black Lawn Finale
Banned
There you go. Ivy isn't the type of character you can convert a full damaging combo off of a GI because that's not how she plays. Like I said before, I'd rather save the meter for a CE or BE.
I play Pat and i hardly use it too but Id hardly be ready to declare it a feature useless across the board. The few times I do though (end of the round) Its worked out. Even if you cant convert it to huge damage If you're on oki with half a bar and no decent options you can GI and ring someone out or finish them off. Its a pretty damn useful defensive options compared to things you lose entire bars for in other games.
R_thanatos
Member
I have a question : what is the maximum level in rank ( online ) and offline ( in the game for the trophy )
It depends what you come to SC for.
Single player is lacking. Combat feels significantly different to me.
There's still fun to be had though.
If single player isn't what you want, find some videos to see how the combat looks.
People tell me it's the same as 1-3, but I feel it's a lot faster and way more hectic. Too much emphasis on offense.
For me, this game is missing the core elements of what I want from a SC. But I still put like 40 hours in. So that must mean something.
But had I known what I know now, I would've waited for a price drop.
gutter_trash
Banned
the offline modes are pretty shallow with a capital S,
if you have friends to play VS or online = buy
if you want to have fun in offline modes = eh maybe wait for price drop
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I am loving how Astaroth can verify his EX meter with his EX extandable throws eh eh best way to use EX meter
sixteen-bit
Member
I thought Soul Blade/Edge was available for download as a PSone Classic.... but I was wrong.
bummer
Yeah, Namco should get on this considering how many Tekkens they have on there already
You I have an old psp and the d-pad sucks for most fighters, but I think it would work great with this game.
metareferential
Member
Maybe it's already been asked, but how does this compare to other entries in the series?
Considering that for me Soul Calibur = Dreamcast version (despite having played all of them, always with the feeling that something was missing), will I enjoy it or will nostalgia (and the far better art direction of SC1) kill it for me?
There's SC 1 on XBLA.
Considering that for me Soul Calibur = Dreamcast version (despite having played all of them, always with the feeling that something was missing), will I enjoy it or will nostalgia (and the far better art direction of SC1) kill it for me?
I thought Soul Blade/Edge was available for download as a PSone Classic.... but I was wrong.
bummer
There's SC 1 on XBLA.
Depends on what you want from the series. I've been a huge fan and think this is going to end up being the best one yet.
That being said, nothing beats nostalgia.
Yeah I know..but I just wanted to play something on PSP. And they are usually just 6 bucks.
sixteen-bit
Member
Do you have custom firmware? There is a way to legally rip your original PS1 Soul Blade disc and use it on PSP.
metareferential
Member
What I loved from SC 1, apart from the great art direction, stages, etc., was its fast-paced yet tactical gameplay. And everytime a new episode came around, I always felt like it was too slow, compared to the Dreamcast version.
Maybe it's just me, who knows. And I'm not a fan of meters/ultras/etc.
njean777
Member
Really? I always felt 2 was the fastest in the series, I could be wrong...
hmmmm. I guess that's an option.
Well the matches in 2 load pretty damn fast compared to what I played in 5. It all depends what mode your in, but that's what it seemed like to me.
SC1 still feels the fastest. This is closer in speed/feel to SC2 or SC3.
Glad I'm not crazy!
I should be defined it as does Tira anything in Natsu's AA league?
When I was in training Natsu's A interrupts the B follow up at close range. At the edge of 4A, the B followup wins. The A follow up. Well most people can see it anyway. Come to think of it, Natsu's A might not have been the best choice given it's high speed.
How casual are you? As a casual fan myself I honestly cannot recommend buying it. Single player is lacking, with the increased speed and super AI, it's impossible for me to play. Online depends on how many people near you have the game. I can only get 3 bar connections to players in japan, who are way too damn good. I have the most fun when I play dress up with the creation mode.
metareferential
Member
I could really use a demo right now. Yes, I am looking at you, Namco.
I guess I'll stay on the fence a little more, and wait for the right occasion/pricedrop (and keep playing SC1 xD).
sixteen-bit
Member
What's the deal there? SCIV had a demo. I wonder what gives this time.
Not sure you need to spend $60 on it. It's an incremental upgrade from SC4. It looks nicer, is faster, and has better netcode. If you want it mostly for single player, I think this has one of the worst single player offerings in the series. The story is atrocious (this mode should not exist) and doesn't let you choose your characters. The AI gets unnaturally good/cheap. Arcade mode is very slim with 6 stages, no boss or endings. Quick Battle provides an endless stream of AI to fight but the AI gets too fucking good for it to really be fun for me to play this mode. Training mode on the other hand is the best it's ever been. CAS is improved.
I prefer to play online, I'm doing pretty decently since yoshimitsu is basically the same from 4, and there's lots of new players. Fighting against other players is great, and of course that's what this game is all about. I love that, but fighting against the AI is little more than a chore for me.
gutter_trash
Banned
SC1 also had more air juggle combo freedom
I really enjoyed SC4 as well. I'm still a bit sour about the lack of GI, the new system is too difficult/cumbersome for me. The fighting is definitely more fluid, but I haven't played enough to tell if it's definitely better. I also lived with my friends when I played SCIV, and could play that shit with friends all day. Not the case here unfortunately. So as improved as it may be I won't have the same experience fighting silly CAS with my friends in the same room all the time. I still bought this day 1 because i love SC4 so much. But I'm not playing it much outside of a few random matches online.
You don't care about fighting against other people. For me, a fighting game is fighting other people. If that's what you care about, jump in.
Edit: Also, a lot of people really enjoyed SC4. This isn't a competition. I don't like the thinking that if you hate X, then you'll like Y. SC4 was great. So is SC5.
I was more addressing the "core of a fighting game" part. I didn't connect the two as a single thought.
I misunderstood. Sorry.
EDIT: I mentioned SC4 because a lot of people seem to say it was the worst in the series. I don't agree.
In any case, SC5 is still a good game. Even with all my whining, I've spent many hours with this game and intend to spend many more. I'm even doing a bit of online, which I never do.
Casuals who are into online play might want to wait a bit for the ranks to settle though. Right now, I'm constantly running into people who are way too good to be E rank.
For me, that's why fighting games are made. The online is amazing, the gameplay is awesome, and there's no better time to get online and fight people than at launch.
Most fans think SC3 the worst in the series, if you're talking gameplay, at least.
Master Thespian
Member
If casual options are the focus here, then that's fine. But this part is patently false. I've said it before but the system changes in SCV are the biggest jump in a sequel since SoulEdge -> Soulcalibur.
In terms of move speed, not much has changed from SC4. Movement speed is below SC2 but higher than SC4. The main thing is that frames on block and hit are the best they've been since SC1. So good players can build an offensive momentum and it makes it seem as if the moves are faster because sitting on the block button won't help you get out and if you don't have meter you can't GI.
It's a shame we never got SC3AE or SC4BD on home consoles or the rankings would look much different, IMO.
To me it goes:
SC1 > SC2 > SC4 > SC3
But if you swap out the last two with their final versions it's more like:
SC3AE > SC4BD > SC1 > SC2.
I think SC5 is going to be the best in the end either way.
Thanks for the answers everyone.
I quite liked past entries single player so it's disappointing to hear how bad it is. It's what I used to play hours on end in SC2 and 3.
I like to dabble in the online in fighting games but often get frustrated by lag or other issues, and I've never played a Soul game very competitively before. Also I'm in Australia so I don't really know how many local, non that serious, players there are. Unless I can somehow vs overseas players online with no lag I don't think I'll play a lot of it.
Anyways, I'm still considering it because my local GAME has a trade in deal where you can trade in a PS3 version of Skyrim and get this game for $28. Seems like a good deal even with all the issues in the game?
I quite liked past entries single player so it's disappointing to hear how bad it is. It's what I used to play hours on end in SC2 and 3.
I like to dabble in the online in fighting games but often get frustrated by lag or other issues, and I've never played a Soul game very competitively before. Also I'm in Australia so I don't really know how many local, non that serious, players there are. Unless I can somehow vs overseas players online with no lag I don't think I'll play a lot of it.
Anyways, I'm still considering it because my local GAME has a trade in deal where you can trade in a PS3 version of Skyrim and get this game for $28. Seems like a good deal even with all the issues in the game?
I think there's possibly a wider level on which the two games, SCIV and SCV, could be compared though. Simple personal ability (and even limitations) can have a profound effect on things. A moderate increase in playspeed will naturally demand more from a person's brain-speed and could tip the experience from challenging-but-fun to challenging-and-frustrating. A new inclusion of 2QCF-supers might exclude an important mild comeback/punish option from a player who's crap at double-quarters on an xbox dpad. Poor spatial awareness might make it challenging to get used to a new meter mechanic where one eye should be on two different gauges during the fight. And other for example and etcs, etc.
I could see people who *do* care about fighting others (albeit on a low-skill level, perhaps friends that pop around locally) finding the transition from SCIV to SCV to be a tricky one.
I could see people who *do* care about fighting others (albeit on a low-skill level, perhaps friends that pop around locally) finding the transition from SCIV to SCV to be a tricky one.