So he is basically saying Xbox first party lineup will be dire until the end of the generation.
Yes if for the past two/three years he hasn't signed any deals whatsoever
Jesus basic logic escapes the window
So he is basically saying Xbox first party lineup will be dire until the end of the generation.
For that year they will just allow Scorpio exclusives to be a thing.
Yes, developing the X cost money. However, a huge percentage of that money is simply paying for the people involved in the project. And those people really aren't going to be fired now, they will be refocused on future development and other hardware projects.Perhaps their budget was first for the hardware, then game investment !?
Do you know their inner workings?
Their first party is bare to say the least though
Wait, I think I did hear a rumour somewhere in the past few months that MS was exploring its own "Horizon."
I wonder if that rumor came from that LinkedIn, or if there is someone in the know.
P.S. I'm talking about myself.
And the dozens of people who share my view.
Perhaps their budget was first for the hardware, then game investment !?
Do you know their inner workings?
Their first party is bare to say the least though
"Give him the benefit of the doubt"
"Wait till E3"®
Running quotes for 3 years now.
What about wanted him to show game he sign 2-3 years ago? Unless they totally sign nothing for past couple years.
Show us or shut up Phil. He's so full of shit.
Yes, developing the X cost money. However, a huge percentage of that money is simply paying for the people involved in the project. And those people really aren't going to be fired now, they will be refocused on future development and other hardware projects.
Console owners always have hardware teams that are always working on their next projects. Did Sony's first party die out while they were working on the Pro?
It is possible diverting funds to X had some sort of effect on total game budget, but considering the current costs of development if that was the major factor the Xbox division is on a shorter leash and more resource starved than anyone realizes.
Saying "they couldn't afford to make games because they were building X" is actually a terrifying thought.
Let's accept this scenario for a moment, so what you're saying is they took a limited budget and blew it all on an incremental mid-gen upgrade for an already dwindling console that prioritises 4K gaming over investment in games for those who'd already bought into their platform ?
again, First Party exklusive gakes do Not and will NEVER sell a Console.
3rd party games, price etc sell a Console.
Just Look at Wii u 0 3rd party Support, best First party Support, still saleswise a failure.
No way is Forza Horizon 4 or Gears 5 coming next year or the next.
Probably not. After QB launch Remedy has been in recruiting phase for their two projects (CF2, P7). In other words, they have their hands full. Also the talks that Puha has given, sounds like Remedy isn't that interested in AAA game development any more due to the risks that it brings to the studio.I wonder if it's Remedy, might be understandable with how their last couple of games ended up performing.
that was 2 years ago
so we're right on track for their reveal next year
I definitely think this new approach (unless it's all talk, let's hope not) is a double edged sword.
Ms first party has been lacking since 2010. There is no viable excuse at this point.
So you... don't think that the Xbox One will have exclusive games in 2-3 years? That's an interesting bet. I'm sure you've thought it out though.
Do you guys have no reading comprehension? He's giving an example that's shows he is actively signing games and that he doesn't want to show games of to early. Not that any new games they have coming won't be for another 2-3 years. Do you guys not read the OP, going by the OP's title choice he didn't either if he thought that was thread worthy.
I dont think the XBOX will have AAA exclusive games, sea of thieves etc are not tripple a titles
I'm beyond ready for the next mainline Halo. Can't wait.Forza Horizon 4
Halo 6 and/or Gears 5
Looks like a full lineup for me. ;p
2-3 years means Xbox 4 hopefully.
I'm beyond ready for the next mainline Halo. Can't wait.
I leave the thread at page 5 were everything should have cleared up, but instead you all with different blatant biases decided to pull it in different directions to make your on narrative point. Then proceed to argue at each other from those very different points, not only are people still confused and haven't read the OP but some of you are blatantly ignoring the confusion to push narratives. I will quote my post from the start of the thread that should have ended the confusion but apparently not:
I'm sorry but after going through 5 pages of rubbish yours was one I had to answer, are you seriously trying to imply the games that MS produces are not triple AAA even tho team size and cost of development is that of a triple AAA title. Clearly a uninformed post, but what I don't understand is how you can think that. Does every game have to be photo realistic to be AAA is that the angle your getting at or something different. But some how even photo realistic or graphically intense games like Forza, Halo or gears aren't triple AAA now?
So you know the studios he's signed?
I would be more confident if he had said that he built new internal development teams.
"Signing exclusives" sounds so much like 3rd party exclusivity deals. That won't fix Microsofts problem.
"trust us", there's 3 big games coming 2020. Next E3 will provide info on deals signed off this time last year.
I don't know why Microsoft are bothering with this.
I would have just announced the xbox 4 for next year, with backwards compatibility, and leave it at that.
There isn't a 'correct' formula on when to show or not show, it's case by case and comes down to judgement.You Sir are part of the problem.
Impatient people who need to know about games X years in line. The same group of people who will probably moan/whine when said game either gets delayed or there is a media black out.
Knowing about a game X amount of years way doesn't benefit our current gaming experiences.
So you... don't think that the Xbox One will have exclusive games in 2-3 years? That's an interesting bet. I'm sure you've thought it out though.
Do you guys have no reading comprehension? He's giving an example that's shows he is actively signing games and that he doesn't want to show games of to early. Not that any new games they have coming won't be for another 2-3 years. Do you guys not read the OP, going by the OP's title choice he didn't either if he thought that was thread worthy.
You Sir are part of the problem.
Impatient people who need to know about games X years in line. The same group of people who will probably moan/whine when said game either gets delayed or there is a media black out.
Knowing about a game X amount of years way doesn't benefit our current gaming experiences.
I'm sure Xbox GAF finally understands Phil says anything you want to hear, because he is a PR dude.
I don't know how anyone can defend Phil any more.
Sure, he seems like a nice enough guy - it certainly came through in the GB interview, but the facts speak for themselves. What is Microsoft bringing to the table in terms of compelling gaming software on any platform?
Anecdotal I know, but I know many semi-casual/serious single console gamers that went Xbox One this gen and right now are looking to jump off, or have already bought a PS4 and/or Switch, because they were so sick of seeing the grass truly being greener on the other side of the fence.
There is certainly conviction in his voice. He truly seems to believe what he is saying, regardless of whether it's true or not. That's why people love him, because he comes off genuine and sincere.
If this Xbox thing doesn't work out for him, he definitely has a career in politics.
Means shit. If thats the case were are the new exclusives he signed the last couple of years now?
These new signed games gonna be announced next year and canceled the year after it anyway.
"Signed" makes it sound like just some more outsourced IPs like Ryse and Sunset Overdrive. Which is okay, but what happens when those become a success? Let the actual talent move on to a different platform using the experience they gained on your game (a la Insomniac, Playground), and then build copy-cat factory studios that will never reach the heights of the creators (a la 343, Coalition)?
Granted building new studios is hard, but there are other ways. Sony didn't create Naughty Dog after all.
Here's some things you could do:
Expand Rare, have them become your Japan Studios (multiple projects, hardware support)
Acquire A4, have them become your Guerilla Games
Acquire IO Interactive, have them become your Santa Monica
Acquire Remedy, have them become your Naughty Dog
Acquire Playground Games, have them become your Liverpool Studios
Acquire People Can Fly, have them become your Quantic Dreams
Add another team to Coalition
Add another team to 343
Whatever you do PLEASE don't rely on outsourcing for new IP.
Nothing close to this is happening. Dream smaller.
And considering MS just recently turned down a new AAA game from one of those devs, perhaps much smaller.
Nothing close to this is happening. Dream smaller.
And considering MS just recently turned down a new AAA game from one of those devs, perhaps much smaller.
Posts like these always read like parody. And what's wrong with relying on outsourcing for new IP? Sony have a great relationship with Housemarque, Quantic Dream and Supermassive Games, for example. All external partners who have produced multiple new IPs.
I assume you mean they turned down a game from Remedy, given Quantum Break was a huge bomb?