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[SPOILERS] Persona 5 Spoiler Thread | Steal your heart; steel yourself
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Elaugaufein
Member
There weren't a lot of references, apart from Rise.
Chie got mentioned on the Leblanc TV, but not by name.
It'd be pretty hard to come up with a justification to visit Inaba , which is supposed to be the middle of nowhere.
And the timeskip is significantly bigger here, P3 was mostly in 2009, P4 was mostly 2011 , P5 is mostly 2016 (it'd be even larger but P5 wasn't set as far in the future as P3 / P4 which were set almost 3 years ahead, whereas P5's framing device was 2 months ahead , while most of its story was 5 months behind. )
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
What if they made Chie Joker's parole officer.
I thought the game would have benefitted by breaking the structure of repetition up sometimes. Why do I always get text messages from my stupid group chat of morons as soon as I get home? They could pop up randomly and maybe make them feel a little more organic.
Elaugaufein
Member
What if they made Chie Joker's parole officer.
P5 says she's still a cadet.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I thought the game would have benefitted by breaking the structure of repetition up sometimes. Why do I always get text messages from my stupid group chat of morons as soon as I get home? They could pop up randomly and maybe make them feel a little more organic.
Also why does it have to be about the case all the time?
Some random chat about whatevers could probably help make the group dynamic seem more casual.
P5 says she's still a cadet.
Ah alright.
What if they made Chie Joker's parole cadet?P5 says she's still a cadet.
KO Traveling Hobo
Member
I'm jealous of people who have been playing the series in Japanese all this time, since you got to hear the real Igor at the end of the game - even if it was pieced together from old clips. The dub used a new VA, so the "real" Igor is just as foreign as the imposter Igor.Finishing thoughts after 160 hours (in Japanese so I was extra slow):
--WARNING WALL OF TEXT--
The game doesn't come out and say this, which I think it definitely should have, but I think Haru was able to get over her father's death so easily because he was honestly a complete piece of shit. And not even like "typical deadbeat dad" piece of shit, but "full-on mustache-twirling villain" piece of shit.
I agree that Yusuke feels very unique even among a cast of outsiders and outcasts. His design feels much more SMT than the rest of the cast, too.
Fuck Morgana and the fedora he rode in on.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
What if persona 6 is set in a police academy with chie as the main character.
I think you're confusing Morgana with Sojiro.Fuck Morgana and the fedora he rode in on.
Pretty sick of reading posts about "The Crimson" from people who don't actually know why p4g is called "The Golden" and posts about Sae Nijima from people who didn't play arena and think adults can summon personas
adults can summon personas. adults summon personas in the arena games
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Uh i don't actually know why p4g is called the golden either.
Green Mamba
Member
The fuck are you talkin' about.Pretty sick of reading posts about "The Crimson" from people who don't actually know why p4g is called "The Golden" and posts about Sae Nijima from people who didn't play arena and think adults can summon personas
Are you taking this information from Persona: Trinity Soul?Pretty sick of reading posts about "The Crimson" from people who don't actually know why p4g is called "The Golden" and posts about Sae Nijima from people who didn't play arena and think adults can summon personas
Fucking poser.Uh i don't actually know why p4g is called the golden either.
Green Mamba
Member
Never mind the bizarre allegation that adults can't summon Personas, I'm still hung up on the implication that the Arena stories are worth paying attention to.
Elaugaufein
Member
Adults (or whatever the hell the Velvet Room attendants are) summon Persona in the mainline games too. And Koromaru was a mature dog too IIRC.
That's not even counting a lot of the Persona 2 cast.
That's not even counting a lot of the Persona 2 cast.
Never mind the bizarre allegation that adults can't summon Personas, I'm still hung up on the implication that the Arena stories are worth paying attention to.
the arena games also take lore elements from the P3 club book, thus canonizing that giant piece of garbage, and therefore the arena games can never be forgiven
I thought multiple of the p3 cast had lost their personas in the arena storyline?
nope, all of them still have their personas
also the golden is the name of the p4 group's time capsule
what
edit: apparently this in the p4 golden anime, which is both awful and not canon
I thought multiple of the p3 cast had lost their personas in the arena storyline?
This never happened.
Green Mamba
Member
The culprit in Persona 4 is also an adult who can summon a Persona, and according to the MegaTen wiki they're older than Sae is.
Also, Sae is apparently six feet tall? What?!
Also, Sae is apparently six feet tall? What?!
Green Mamba
Member
Okay, "P3 Club Book" is a new set of words for me, tell me what that is, I'm morbidly curious.the arena games also take lore elements from the P3 club book, thus canonizing that giant piece of garbage, and therefore the arena games can never be forgiven
Literally what are you talking about?I thought multiple of the p3 cast had lost their personas in the arena storyline?
also the golden is the name of the p4 group's time capsule
I've played the original version of P4 once and Golden twice, there's no time capsule in any of it.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Wait is the golden an anime only thing?
How am I supposed to know that lol.
How am I supposed to know that lol.
Iva Demilcol
Member
time capsule hahaha what?
what does chie put in there
Trial of the Dragons maybe
Okay, "P3 Club Book" is a new set of words for me, tell me what that is, I'm morbidly curious.
tl;dr a japanese-only book covering persona 1, 2, and 3's stories, with an in-depth section on persona 3 lore that brings us such gems as "nyx was an extradimensional alien being capable of eating planets that crashed into earth and became the moon", "the collective unconscious exists because nyx is made of magic fairy dust that spread all over the world when she collided with earth and caused life to evolve intelligence", and "the items from P3's easy mode that revive you if you die are actually shards of Nyx that can be used to make Dark Hour-capable motorcycles and robot girls" (this is the main one arena canonizes)
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
So Nyx is Galactus?
... what if this is leading to an avengers style persona game.
... what if this is leading to an avengers style persona game.
Green Mamba
Member
Oh right, the... feathers? Or something? From Labrys's story?tl;dr a japanese-only book covering persona 1, 2, and 3's stories, with an in-depth section on persona 3 lore that brings us such gems as "nyx was an extradimensional alien being capable of eating planets that crashed into earth and became the moon", "the collective unconscious exists because nyx is made of magic fairy dust that spread all over the world when she collided with earth and caused life to evolve intelligence", and "the items from P3's easy mode that revive you if you die are actually shards of Nyx that can be used to make Dark Hour-capable motorcycles and robot girls" (this is the main one arena canonizes)
Attempts to add deeper lore to Persona always fall on their face. It's part of the reason I think the Arena games are so screwed up (outside of the writing in general just being ass). P3, 4, and 5 are basically self contained stories that do away with stronger lore cohesion for better thematic cohesion within themselves. Like, P3 and P4 aren't compatible really at all.
So Nyx is Galactus?
... what if this is leading to an avengers style persona game.
Hasn't that already happened?
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Like, Q?
KO Traveling Hobo
Member
tl;dr a japanese-only book covering persona 1, 2, and 3's stories, with an in-depth section on persona 3 lore that brings us such gems as "nyx was an extradimensional alien being capable of eating planets that crashed into earth and became the moon", "the collective unconscious exists because nyx is made of magic fairy dust that spread all over the world when she collided with earth and caused life to evolve intelligence", and "the items from P3's easy mode that revive you if you die are actually shards of Nyx that can be used to make Dark Hour-capable motorcycles and robot girls" (this is the main one arena canonizes)
I unironically love the sound of all of these things. Gives me Evangelion vibes.
Oh right, the... feathers? Or something? From Labrys's story?
Attempts to add deeper lore to Persona always fall on their face. It's part of the reason I think the Arena games are so screwed up (outside of the writing in general just being ass).
persona 3 in particular wanted so badly to be evangelion they even thought they'd put out a companion book explaining how the whole story actually ties in to ancient history and the development of humanity
KO Traveling Hobo
Member
persona 3 in particular wanted so badly to be evangelion they even thought they'd put out a companion book explaining how the whole story actually ties in to ancient history and the development of humanity
I respect all things that strive toward perfection.
Like, Q?
Persona 4 Arena Ultimax comes pretty close.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Is Aigis modelled after Itsuki's dead wife or something.
Pretty sick of reading posts about "The Crimson" from people who don't actually know why p4g is called "The Golden" and posts about Sae Nijima from people who didn't play arena and think adults can summon personas
Adults lose their ability to summon their Persona in Trinity Souls. Did you also forget about the P4 culprit?
I thought the game would have benefitted by breaking the structure of repetition up sometimes. Why do I always get text messages from my stupid group chat of morons as soon as I get home? They could pop up randomly and maybe make them feel a little more organic.
Yup, this got really bad near the end. It's like they were afraid you'd forget what the plot was if you finished the palace too early.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Nah, that's how I went as well.
KO Traveling Hobo
Member
I think those might have been my firsts too. I know I ignored everything in favor of Death until I hit the Charm gate, at least.Uhh my first two confidants maxed out were Death and Sun. I don't think that is very common.
ChasingComets
Member
Uhh my first two confidants maxed out were Death and Sun. I don't think that is very common.
Sun isn't as surprising as you might think, since he's one of the two confidants (the other being Mishima) that doesn't need you to hang out with to advance, and there isn't any kind of progression gate in his storyline besides having to work at the start. Also helps that Yoshida's bonuses are some of the best to get.
CielTynave
Member
I always thought "The Golden" was just referring to the golden shadow in Jungian psychology:
Consider the truth that Creation needs you to be your most vibrant and creative self. Life wants to express something unique and powerful that will help to heal the world in some way. Why do so few of us live a n empowered creative life? The answer is hidden in our "Golden Shadow."
When we speak of the shadow we usually think about the more shameful and frightening aspects of ourselves that we have disowned. We often do not consider that we also disown our bright light.
Psychiatrist Carl Jung called our submerged creative potential the "Golden Shadow." We can find our golden shadow embedded in our intense admiration of other people. The bright qualities that we admire in others are the disowned aspects of our unlimited self.
The Golden Shadow is our submerged greatness. The Golden Shadow is our dismissed and unknown strengths. Our strengths wait, disguised within our deepest emotional pain and hurt.
The Golden Shadow is the soul part of ourselves that offers a particular strength of love and healing to the areas where we have experienced the most hurt and lack.
Elaugaufein
Member
Death is sorta unusual because of the Charm gate (and having both her best Abilities by Rank 7) and Lovers and Chariot being easy to Max but Sun is fairly normal (automatic rank ups, no progression gates).
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
To be fair chariot and lovers are both pretty boring.
Okay so, the P4 Arena games were sick fighting games and I want P5 Arena to happen. I think they should go for a non-cannon story, and just go full on dumb dream match. Timeskip versions of the P4 crew, P3 crew, what if characters with no relation to whatever story they come up with (p3 protag, feMC), maaaaaybe P1 & 2 characters? I kinda want to see timeskipped versions of the P5 crew.
Or just make SMT Dream Match.
Been looking everywhere for this, appreciate it.
Or just make SMT Dream Match.
Is anyone else super disappointed the instrumental version of Last Surprise isn't even on the official soundtrack? It sounds so damn good.
Been looking everywhere for this, appreciate it.
Lightning Lord
Banned
Yukari gets name dropped on the TV, and I also saw mention of the Amagi Inn on TV as well.There weren't a lot of references, apart from Rise.
Chie got mentioned on the Leblanc TV, but not by name.