dmcRedgrave
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Excuse me but FF3 gave us the Job system, aka the My Dick Can Only Get So Hard system
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Square Enix: Final Fantasy XV "greatest contributor", fastest-selling FF (6 million)
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Excuse me but FF3 gave us the Job system, aka the My Dick Can Only Get So Hard system
LordKasual
Banned
Tabata won
thread is lit baby
you guys stole all the good gifs 
KEEP THE SALT COMING BABY
AINT NO STOPPING THIS TRAIN WE ON
I mean half or more of those sales were probably from Versus fans (myself included) who got played thinking they were getting the story Nomura promised only to find out shit that was revealed as late as 1 year before release wasn't even included in the final game. XV just tricked fans and rode on the fame of Versus, selling it as a game which it no longer was.
Every time the same question and every time the answer is shipped unless specified otherwise (with sources like NPD, GFK, Media Create).
The Last One
Member
Oh wow, thanks Versus fans!
dmcRedgrave
Member
If you really think 15 is the worst of the main entries than you haven't played some of the original 1-5 because some of those games are real fucking stinkers.
theofficefan99
Junior Member
This.
NoctisVsStar
Member
Trying to get shake off the poison that was ff13 saga and 14 vanilla isn't easy.
3 months.
Oops, you're right!
You'd classify it as a bomb even though SE is telling you that the game is the main driving force that led to one of their best years financially?
Even though it's the fastest FF ever?
Like seriously, you can hate the game but just stop denying its success, it's really pathetic at this point.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
A lot Versus fans enjoyed FFXV though (myself included). I'd say around half or more.
TheSpoiler
Member
Lmao I'm totally sure.
This was a strange reply to what you quoted.
LordKasual
Banned
This would be an interesting endevor.
Start the game following Young Regis and his battle-filled roadtrip with the homies
and end the game with timeskip Sean Bean
Though it would kinda suck since the climax would be you as an old man getting dragged by an enemy you can barely fight back against
NoctisVsStar
Member
Just wanted to tease perfo a bit.
God, this stuff is so embarrassing.
Stop making excuses because a game you didn't enjoy ended up being very successful.
It really is kind of sad.
theofficefan99
Junior Member
Are people forgetting that this is the only mainline title to ship worldwide simultaneously...? That's why it's the fastest selling.
Anyways, even though FFXV is the most disappointing game I have ever played and I don't think the dev team deserves praise, I'm glad SE is happy with the sales because this means that perhaps higher-ups will treat the franchise with more respect from here on out.
Anyways, even though FFXV is the most disappointing game I have ever played and I don't think the dev team deserves praise, I'm glad SE is happy with the sales because this means that perhaps higher-ups will treat the franchise with more respect from here on out.
Come on dude, don't you think you're exaggerating a bit here?
2030 sounds more reasonable, imo.
EGOMON
Member
Well deserved.
This was my first FF game and I fell in love with it, I have been playing it since it came out and only today I decided it is time to shelf it I kept finding new stuff to do in the game after I finished it. My last quest was to catch every type of Fish in the game lol
I mean I loved the game so much I wanted to spend more time with it.
Thanks SE for the amazing game
This was my first FF game and I fell in love with it, I have been playing it since it came out and only today I decided it is time to shelf it I kept finding new stuff to do in the game after I finished it. My last quest was to catch every type of Fish in the game lol
I mean I loved the game so much I wanted to spend more time with it.
Thanks SE for the amazing game
I don't care if a game I don't like is successful, what do I have to lose from that? I'm only pointing out the game SE played on its fans where they marketed so many aspects of Versus only to remove them from the final game.
dmcRedgrave
Member
Exactly what of Versus was marketed? What of Versus even existed? I can recall a picture of Noctis on a chair, one scene of him riding in a limo, and some proof of concept footage of the basic combat system which remained essentially unchanged.
The Last One
Member
Crazy Diamond
Member
Greatest contributor to the medium as a whole. 🐐
theofficefan99
Junior Member
I "enjoyed" it too in the sense that combat was mostly fun minus the atrocious camera/inability to cancel animations/automated combos, but the experience of the main story was laughable. It's fetch quests, a couple "set piece" ugly janky boss fights, a train ride, a copy/paste shove-lore-in-your-face dungeon for a couple hours, and then it's the end. Shortest main story in the series by far, extremely uneventful, horribly paced, awfully written, shallow, stitched together. When the main story is this poor I have no interest in going back and completing the fetch quests or the annoying post-game dungeons.
At the very least, SE is well aware of how unsatisfying the main story is.
LordKasual
Banned
oh no, there's plenty of salt
it just aint stickin
cuz there aint no stoppin this train we on
oh it is fuckin DELICIOUS keep it commin baby
The Last One
Member
I mean, who dresses like that?
I want to see a serious discussion of Type-0's combat versus FFXV's because I've been having thoughts that Type-0's is actually better designed, which is a pretty heavy indictment of FFXV.
Considering it's a great game, yeah it's deserved.
Disagree, The Versus fans were not half of the sales. Final Fantasy fans in general. I also disagree that it's not the game it was. Nobody really had any clue what Versus was and still don't.
LordKasual
Banned
I mean, who dresses like that?
a business woman who will beat every one of her local competetors 100% of the time
PshycoNinja
Member
Guys... Come on...
They are just confirming that it is the fastest selling game in the franchise. Doesn't mean it didn't sell anything in three months. From what I hear and see it's still has quite the legs. Selling more over a long period of time compared to the last few SP entries.
Let's not do this, Perfo.
Heh.
They are just confirming that it is the fastest selling game in the franchise. Doesn't mean it didn't sell anything in three months. From what I hear and see it's still has quite the legs. Selling more over a long period of time compared to the last few SP entries.
Let's not do this, Perfo.
Heh.
Cheezeman3000
Member
Once I heard Tabata was the new director of XV, I knew it was in trouble. Tabata isn't afraid to cut (or ignore) important artistic elements from his games in order to meet deadlines. At this point in XV's troubled development he was a necessary evil, otherwise it would have been delayed to oblivion. I'm sure he's a favorite of the Square Enix suits. Once you hear he's directing something you can bet there will be a devastating impact on the story, presentation, and combat mechanics, all in favor of rushing the game out the door faster than should have ever been considered.
It's not totally his fault. Square Enix needs to stop announcing games 10 years before they're ready (I know this game started as Versus, but it was obviously not anywhere near ready when it was announced... and now we have VII and KHIII announced way too early as well... they never learn). Nomura is an issue too, he's a visionary and a great artist, but his games take way too long to develop. So there are multiple issues in the current leadership.
I thought World of Final Fantasy, on the other hand, was a step in the right direction. Put that team on some more games stat.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1328781
Hell the 2013 reveal trailer was what started the hype train all over again and so much was cut from that.
Congratulations SE!
I'm not in the omg this game sux boat, but also not on the 10/10 boat.
It was a rough trip, and accomplishing 6M considering that, is by all means an accomplishment.
However, SE, don't get cocky or arrogant please. Learn from your mistakes too. The XV had a lot of foundation (side stuff, room for lore, world, chp9 onwards, etc) that could've been fleshed out a lot more.
It's understandable given the incredibly troubled development of the game, but I'm not sure it will be acceptable if it becomes the norm. I want to think, it won't.
I'm not in the omg this game sux boat, but also not on the 10/10 boat.
It was a rough trip, and accomplishing 6M considering that, is by all means an accomplishment.
However, SE, don't get cocky or arrogant please. Learn from your mistakes too. The XV had a lot of foundation (side stuff, room for lore, world, chp9 onwards, etc) that could've been fleshed out a lot more.
It's understandable given the incredibly troubled development of the game, but I'm not sure it will be acceptable if it becomes the norm. I want to think, it won't.
theofficefan99
Junior Member
I think the more accurate version of that complaint is that pretty much nothing that was marketed before March 31, 2016 was in the game.
I didn't enjoy 15 but I'm still glad it's a success. The only thing I'm afraid of is they try and release another car adventure type FF bc 15 sold well and I really really didn't like the way this game handled travel or story. The combat was bueno though for sure.
dmcRedgrave
Member
That has absolutely nothing to do with my question of what existed of Versus prior to its change to 15.
RedAssedApe
Banned
guess it makes sense why they still have that smaller team working on updates. i bought the game at launch (albeit at a discount) but have yet to play beyond the combat tutorial lol
The Last One
Member
NoctisVsStar
Member
Tabata is secretly a business suit, dude has no artistic flair.
Nomura needs someone to stop him at times and be like "it's ok we couldn't do this, let's proceed". Dude focuses to much on minor details.
Kojima is sort of like Nomura but he's more realistic about things.