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Square Enix's FY15: $368 million mobile, $369 console/hand/PC, $194 MMO, profit +49%
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Square Enix's actual breakdown was fascinating enough that I split it off to its own thread. Mobile is actually competitive with what console has been earning in the past five years: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1044868
infiniteloop
Member
Nice, good to see.
Well, releasing anything really. Tomb Raider, Just Cause, and Deus Ex on top of what huge number their services earned this year would do it.
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
I thought the three of them were Q3-4 2016 titles?
The Last One
Member
They have FF XV for the next year too!
Edit: but the bump for FF XV will be counted only for 2017 right? My bad.
More_Badass
Member
Banner Saga, XCOM, and FTL play excellently on iPad. Turn based games, tactical games are well suited for touch screen
I play on mobile as much as I do on PC. And not little sessions; a few hours chilling in bed or on the sofa on iPad is great
There are already many games that are long form, 2-8 hours experiences, some longer, that are definitely not suited for a bus ride
FY 2016 yes, but they're coming out in Fall 2015 for the first two and Deus Ex is TBA but most likely Q1 2016.
Yea I hope next time after all the AAA releases the gap will be much higher.
DannyDanger
Member
Square is doing well for themselves
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
Oh so fall 2015 for TR2? I must've missed that. Good to know. It looks like this is Eidos' year. Hopefully the next one with FFXV and Dissidia will be Tokyo's year
Looking forward to Heavensward's sales btw. I wanna see how big the impact will be on the users'base size of now.
DarkLordMalik
Member
Half dozen new Mobile IPs, Tomb Raider and more HD Remasters.
Oh so fall 2015 for TR2? I must've missed that. Good to know. It looks like this is Eidos' year. Hopefully the next one with FFXV and Dissidia will be Tokyo's year
Looking forward to Heavensward's sales btw. I wanna see how big the impact will be on the users'base size of now.
Q4 2015 for the X360 & XB1 versions of Rise of the Tomb Raider. PS4/PC later. Early March maybe if they expect it to contribute to the same fiscal year? Not sure if a PS3 version will even happen.
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
I'm ok with that if FFXII HD is part of it!
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
Probably cause Nintendo.
Felessan
Member
Mobile will continue to perform well.
MMOs will have a significant bump (both have expansion this year).
Some actual HD games coming out.
Final fatnasy ... well that's embarrassing
PumpkinSpice
Banned
This seems like it will be good consistent revenue for them. Is anyone else (aside from Blizzard) doing this well with subscription based MMOs?
EVE is a possibility.
I believe EA noted most of SWTOR's revenue has shifted to the f2p element instead of the sub element at this point.
Lineage 1 still makes a lot of money for some reason.
Trogdor1123
Member
well its nice that the console stuff isn't falling...
I think its pointing to the end of good SE games, although one could say that happened a while back.
I think its pointing to the end of good SE games, although one could say that happened a while back.
Yeah likely and also best case scenario, hoping they aren't going to cut too many things to make it in time.
HD spelling checks are hard. Please understand.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
lol at the people thinking SE is abandoning consoles all together.....are you looking at the same graph as the one in the OP? SE hasn't even released their big franchises yet.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
I started to play FFXIV and it's fantastic, so good job SE, maybe you're not that shitty after all.
It's nice that console-hand-PC was 1 million more than mobile at least, haha.
It's nice that console-hand-PC was 1 million more than mobile at least, haha.
Yeah, Square Enix is a publisher that clearly chose diversification over transition. It's paying off very well. Namco tried to approach more-so as well.
Other companies who instead decided to wind down a lot of traditional publishing (Capcom, Konami, Sega) were more so unable and/or unwilling to compete, hence the heavy resource shifts.
Nice to have some positive news from a Japanese publisher for a change.
Stone Ocean
Member
Yeah, with consoles doing as well as mobile there is no reason to abandon either, specially when their big guns are yet to come out
Double money is better than single money
They had strong catalog sales that drove a lot of the performance (as in games released March 2014 or earlier but were still selling), but the new releases were Dragon Quest Heroes, Final Fantasy Type-0 HD, Theatrhythm: Dragon Quest, Lara Croft and the Temple of Osiris, Nosgoth, Heroes & Generals, Final Fantasy Explorers, Kingdom Hearts HD 2.5 Remix, Murdered: Soul Suspect, Theatrhythm Final Fantasy: Curtain Call, Sleeping Dogs: Definitive Edition, and Life Is Strange.
You'll notice there are two PC f2p titles in there, which when they're not browser based, are bundled into "HD Games".
I could have missed some titles.
I truly believe that when FFXV and KH3 come out (hopefully we'll also have DQXI on the horizon), Square Enix will have essentially weathered the storm and be back on top.
If they have to pump out a bunch of mobile games I'll never play so that their console releases can be released in a timely and presentable fashion, I'm fine with that.
If they have to pump out a bunch of mobile games I'll never play so that their console releases can be released in a timely and presentable fashion, I'm fine with that.
Stone Ocean
Member
DQHeroes, Type 0, ARR, Sleeping Dogs DE, TR DE, Temple of Osiris, there's other stuff I don't remember
I do want to note though that FF14's retail sales are bundled in MMO instead of HD Games.
Stone Ocean
Member
Oh, I imagined the MMO revenue was from subscriptions and not the retail sales
Correct, as made by Nexon.
Yeah their divisions are not always entirely obvious.
Basically anything that makes revenue related to the MMOs is the MMO category, anything that's a mobile game or browser title is mobile/browser, and everything else is "HD games" no matter how not HD it is and even if it's f2p.
Ahh wow, didn't know that, thanks for the info. Seems like an awesome way to revive the game.
djplaeskool
Member
FFXI Grandmasters is a mobile spinoff
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
thats like 4 million in retail sales altogether?
In the next 2-3 years they have FFXV, KH3, Dissidia, Deus Ex, TR, DQ11, DQH2, some HD remakes like FF12 HD, Star Ocean 5, SaGa etc all coming up.
If anything I'd say SE has invested more into PS4 than they did with the PS360.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Which is the right way to go , you don't put all your eggs in one basket .
Well the logic is that if your other basket is on fire and falling off a cliff it's probably safer to use just the one basket.
kiunchbb
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I really wish they break down the net profit between mobile, console, and mmo. Just the revenue break down tell us nothing.
This is just my wishful thinking, but there is a chance that SE spent craploads of money in marketing to build a mobile franchise (and compete against every other mobile game). The profit for mobile might not be as amazing as it looks. If mobile profit ratio is a lot better than console games, we would see SE bragging about it in the financial.
This is just my wishful thinking, but there is a chance that SE spent craploads of money in marketing to build a mobile franchise (and compete against every other mobile game). The profit for mobile might not be as amazing as it looks. If mobile profit ratio is a lot better than console games, we would see SE bragging about it in the financial.