Well at least those had some decent-good gameplay tho.
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Star Ocean Material Trader announced
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Well at least those had some decent-good gameplay tho.
PlanetSmasher
Banned
There hasn't been a good Star Ocean game since SO2, so this doesn't hurt as much as it could...but it still stings.
Is it bad that sometimes I kind of wish I could fly over to Japan and break every single cell phone in the country so developers would be forced to start making meaningful things again?
Is it bad that sometimes I kind of wish I could fly over to Japan and break every single cell phone in the country so developers would be forced to start making meaningful things again?
Gucci Messiah
Banned
Why can't this gen be like the PS2 era? Oh, I wish I could turn back time. The jRPG's! There was just so many. Now? Not so much. iOS junk, F2P/browser games, blah blah.
They've all gone to 3DS/Vita but yeah, I know what you mean. The PS2 era was indeed amazing for JRPGs.
PlanetSmasher
Banned
There really aren't even that many good JRPGs on the handhelds either. The handhelds have sheer numbers, yes, but most handheld RPGs are gimped or nerfed nostalgia factories that don't even come close to eclipsing their console counterparts from last gen.
It's a goddamn shame.
Pinko Marx
Banned
No amount of good game play can make up for the atrocity that was Star Ocean 4
Now I am curious as to what games you like...
Cornbread78
Member
Fu(k this $hit.. Give us an actual game....aarrgghhh
PlanetSmasher
Banned
They should ditch the writer while they're at it. Keep that pseudo-eroge nonsense out of our RPGs.
TwoDurans
"Never said I wasn't a hypocrite."
This is a bad idea, kay?
It was fine, it's an anime game after all, roll with it. Those shower PA would have been 10x funnier if it was actually acted well, but hey.
But a lot of the cutscenes looked awkward because of how the characters moved, and how their faces looked. I just couldn't take them seriously at all. Oddly I think even SO3 was better in this regard, but I don't remember SO3 very well. I should replay that sometime soon.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
If you call terrible voice acting charming I guess.
It's like people never played SO3!
What do you think this is?
PlanetSmasher
Banned
The worst part about SO3 was that it also destroyed Valkyrie Profile at pretty much the same time, since SO3 pretty strongly insinuated (and actually downright stated at one point) that VP and Star Ocean take place in the same universe.
So the SO3 plot twist also neutralized Valkyrie Profile as well.
graywolf323
Member
can't they at least put Star Ocean 1 & 2 PSP up on PSN so I can play them on Vita?
What PSX games had good voice acting?
PlanetSmasher
Banned
Metal Gear Solid?
neoism
Member
yeah i love 3 though but SO2 is my fav by far...
CielTynave
Member
I didn't really enjoy SO2, although that's most likely because I played the PSP version of SO1 right before it and that meant I was basically playing the same game again but with a worse story and characters.
Oh no...
Star Ocean is officially dead
RIP
Star Ocean died with 3 though.
Remember the plot twist?
Forsaken82
Member
Geez, what do you qualify as a "Good game" because despite the voice acting and dialogue of Star Ocean 4, I thought the gameplay was fantastic. Great combat, good exploration aspects, epic long boss fights, solid creation system. I mean what did you want from the game? Do you need solid story and writing to enjoy a game? I didn't realize Story > Gameplay
I couldnt care less about how annoying the characters could at times get because when i actually PLAYED as them, it was enjoyable.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Remember how the game ended?
LOL I spit out my water when I saw the picture under it.
Femmeworth
Banned
Kagari could have softened the blow for Star Ocean fans, but she didn't. I blame Toriyama.
encephalon
Member
In a sense this series is almost more disappointing not for losing what was, but for what could have been. 3 and 4 are good games, but have well known story issues that go beyond mediocrity to distract from the quality of the overall product. I would really like to see a 5, especially since I like the Sci Fi element (even if it isn't as pronounced as I would like it to be), but it could very well end up as silly as 3 or 4. 2 isn't really some masterwork. It's a fairly basic JRPG storyline with some less than common Sci Fi elements, wonderful music, and a fun, if a bit messy, battle system. There are just so few quality JRPGs these days that another 2 at this point would be a godsend.
Star Ocean 3* was garbage compared to the first two. Absolute garbage. Maybe it's just me, but I feel like JRPGs in general have taken a huge shift. I remember they used to be filled with drunks, cursing, and some pretty dark stuff. Nowadays it's all rainbows, sunshine, and very feminine male protagonists.
There might be enough people out there who eat it up, but I'm not on board. Bring back Chrono Trigger, Legend of Dragoon, Xenogears, Star Ocean 1-2, Secret of Mana, FFVII-VIII, Super Mario RPG, Sword of Vermilion, Vagrant Story, Lunar. The list goes on and on and on. It's not like it once was. I used to really be into JRPGs, and now I can hardly stand them at all.
*Whoops, I'm sorry, Star Ocean 3 actually wasn't terrible. It's Star Ocean 4 that I was thinking of. Now that game was a damned piece of garbage. I think the last JRPG I thought was decent had to be Infinite Undiscovery, though, and even it was nothing like they used to be.
There might be enough people out there who eat it up, but I'm not on board. Bring back Chrono Trigger, Legend of Dragoon, Xenogears, Star Ocean 1-2, Secret of Mana, FFVII-VIII, Super Mario RPG, Sword of Vermilion, Vagrant Story, Lunar. The list goes on and on and on. It's not like it once was. I used to really be into JRPGs, and now I can hardly stand them at all.
*Whoops, I'm sorry, Star Ocean 3 actually wasn't terrible. It's Star Ocean 4 that I was thinking of. Now that game was a damned piece of garbage. I think the last JRPG I thought was decent had to be Infinite Undiscovery, though, and even it was nothing like they used to be.
"Material Trader" tipped it off that this was something crap. Call me when SO5 turns into an iOS game...
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I was about to hit you with a sack of bricks
Seriously, SO3 gave birth to team VP2. Which then made RoF.
can't they at least put Star Ocean 1 & 2 PSP up on PSN so I can play them on Vita?
This. Why are these games still not on PSN?
BlueTsunami
there is joy in sucking dick
The IP is ripe for a serious reboot. Serious scenario writer with an already great battle system. Maybe bring the item creation system back to the SO2 style with eclectic skills instead if just pure item creation.
This series was always shit. Besides gameplay (which is merely average) and music, the series is a giant ball of missed potential. Oh hey, a sci-fi JRPG series!!! Oh jk, here, hang out for dozens and dozens of hours on planets that look exactly like every other medieval RPG out there.
Like someone else in this thread said, hand this IP to LITERALLY ANY OTHER DEVELOPER because Tri-Ace is more shit now that they ever were before (and they were never great).
Like someone else in this thread said, hand this IP to LITERALLY ANY OTHER DEVELOPER because Tri-Ace is more shit now that they ever were before (and they were never great).
SatelliteOfLove
Member
Well, I was waiting for the death knell of one of my favorite game series of all time (seriously, there are so few games on SO2's level), and it looks like this is it. Guess we are never getting that tri-Ace tech to come to fruition
Not with the tech gurus of tri-Ace abandoning ship. So much for that chestnut of lack of tech savvy being the death of devs over there (atop a pile of other evidence).
SO2 was one of the broadest, deepest, and most ambitious RPGs ever attempted on consoles natively (especially now with console WRPGs largely abandoning both the PC and their heritage strengths showing up on the scene).
That, and I'm not sure where you'd take it; I mean, would their engine go along with them? And who would do it justice (for the first time ever if that's your take)?
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
lol the game was never touted to be pure sci fi. The whole game is about being stuck in some backwards planet.
With that said, only pre-SO3 Star Ocean have average battle system. SO3 is the best (I consider its battle system superior to SO4's blinking) because of its numerous and complex stuff despite the simple idea. Hell, at least SO3 made an effort to add scifi stuff.