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Star Trek Discovery - official trailer in OP, 15 episodes ordered, premieres 9/24

firehawk12

Subete no aware
Hmm. It's always had a broad international feel to me, certainly among its fanbase. Or maybe that's just my perspective as a non-American.
TOS probably has the most traditionally conservative/neo-liberal principles. You could argue that Voyager is basically about an American in space doing what she wants in order to further her own goals, morality be damned. lol
 
Always loved that design, looks very much like something that NASA would design if they cracked the alcuberre drive problem

lol you're not wrong
http://collider.com/star-trek-warp-ship-nasa-images/#into-darkness-bridge

nasa-star-trek-enterprise-ixs-110-image-8.jpg
 

jb1234

Member
"Demons"/"Terra Prime" could have been a three-parter where the last hour is pure denouement, and flashes forward six years to the new speech Archer is about to give in the real finale, and it would have been a worthy send-off. The Romulan thread would still have been left dangling, but it's Star Trek so we know what happens there and we can take the Season 4 buildup as political tension and nothing more. It would have been fine. As it stands, Season 4 is still quite good despite not diving further into that content the following year.

But noooo, we had to suffer "These Are The Voyages..." instead. Heh. I enjoy the last few minutes though. Archer and T'Pol, and then the ships.

To be fair "These Are The Voyages..." is far from the worst episode that season. People just dogpile on it because it was the series finale and badly misconceived. I'd rather watch it then say, "Bound."
 

JeffZero

Purple Drazi
To be fair "These Are The Voyages..." is far from the worst episode that season. People just dogpile on it because it was the series finale and badly misconceived. I'd rather watch it then say, "Bound."

I'm curious, which other Season 4 episodes would you rank beneath TATV? "Bound" is the only one I ever see mentioned, and even it has its fans. I'm not big on "Home", but I like what they tried to do. It's just that the A-Plot between Archer and Hernandez is very uninspired.
 

jb1234

Member
I'm curious, which other Season 4 episodes would you rank beneath TATV? "Bound" is the only one I ever see mentioned, and even it has its fans. I'm not big on "Home", but I like what they tried to do. It's just that the A-Plot between Archer and Hernandez is very uninspired.

I really dislike "Daedalus" as well, which snatches elements of DS9's "The Visitor" but forgets to include that episode's heart. I barely remember "Home" but I remember appreciating it as a quiet character episode.

But yeah, "Bound" is the real turd of the season. I guess you can find redeeming qualities if you're into the sexy ladies but as I'm gay, I mostly just wanted the whole thing to end. :p
 
TOS probably has the most traditionally conservative/neo-liberal principles. You could argue that Voyager is basically about an American in space doing what she wants in order to further her own goals, morality be damned. lol

Well I just attribute that to Janeway being Janeway, rather than American. :p

I mean sure there's a lot of American customs in Starfleet, but the Federation itself has always been a bit socialist with policies of non-interference in other cultures. At least in theory.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
Well I just attribute that to Janeway being Janeway, rather than American. :p

I mean sure there's a lot of American customs in Starfleet, but the Federation itself has always been a bit socialist with policies of non-interference in other cultures. At least in theory.
I mean, TOS had many episodes where Kirk basically preaches about how awesome humanity is to "primitives"... which is basically what America went around doing for most of the 20th century.
 

JeffZero

Purple Drazi
Kurtzman talks about how Fuller's creative imprint remains in the development of Season 1 and the ideas for a possible Season 2, says they're currently shooting Episode 5 of 15 for Season 1, cites the importance of representation and involved storytelling, and even teases some celebrity cameos.

http://collider.com/star-trek-discovery-lgbt-characters-alex-kurtzman-bryan-fuller/#cbs

Kurtzman also noted that given the intense fandom surrounding Trek, he’s gotten many requests for celebrity cameos—so keep those eyes peeled:

“So many actors are fans. We literally got a list of them that were like, ‘Here are people who said they want to be on Star Trek’. It was awesome… To just be in an episode or come in or out.”

And in case you missed my topic last week, Nicholas Meyer is also working on a Star Trek project that's unrelated to Discovery.

http://trekmovie.com/2017/06/02/exc...che-and-hints-at-another-star-trek-project-2/
 
- Star Trek: Discovery announces its official premiere date
EW said:
Trek will return to series television on Sunday, Sept. 24 at 8:30 p.m. ET with a special telecast on CBS (the network’s NFL football coverage will act as its lead-in). Both the premiere and the second episode will also immediately debut on the CBS All Access streaming service (so if viewers finish the premiere and want to know what happens next, they can instantly switch to All Access to find out). After that, the series be released weekly on All Access for the rest of its 15-episode run, which will be split into two parts. The first eight episodes will be made available on Sunday nights through Nov. 5, then the show will take a winter hiatus; Discovery will resume its second chapter in January 2018. Outside the U.S., the series will air on Netflix.
 

JeffZero

Purple Drazi
EW is claiming the football coverage is the lead-in, but StarTrek.com says the season premiere of 60 Minutes airs first. Hm.
 

JeffZero

Purple Drazi
http://ew.com/tv/2017/06/20/star-tre...green-burnham/

Oops, I posted this in the wrong Star Trek thread earlier. Anyway: Burnham is fully human, but she grew up around Sarek and Amanda.

Ready to learn a bit more about the lead character in Star Trek: Discovery?

We spoke to star Sonequa Martin-Green about her mysterious role for this week’s upcoming issue of Entertainment Weekly. Her character, First Officer Michael Burnham (deliberately a man’s name), has been shrouded in mystery so far, with the show’s trailer hinting at a Vulcan past. Is she human? Vulcan? Martin-Green is ready to clear things up (a little).

We can tell you that Burnham is fully human (not half-Vulcan as some have speculated) and is the first human to attend the Vulcan Learning Center as a child and then the Vulcan Science Academy as a young woman. She has a close relationship with Sarek (James Frain), the father of Spock. For the past seven years, she’s been serving on the U.S.S. Shenzhou.

“I’m the first officer on the U.S.S. Shenzhou that is captained by Captain Philippa Georgiou, who is played by the amazing Michelle Yeoh,” she says. “I have an inner war and it’s a journey of self discovery and finding out what it means to be alive, to be human, to be a Starfleet officer, what it means to be a hero.”



The producers searched long and hard to find an actor who could pull of Burnham’s divided nature. “We read a lot of people and they either went way too robotic or and chilly or way too emotional,” says Aaron Harberts, who serves as showrunner on the series along with Gretchen J. Berg. “What’s beautiful about Sonequa’s performance is she’s capable of playing two, three, four things at once. She’s got such a great command of her craft, she’s able to be aloof but warm; logical but able to surrender her emotional side to the audience.”

Adds Martin-Green: “I have the Vulcan conflict in my life from Sarek and Amanda so there’s always going to be that inner conflict with me. But I think it’s relatable because we all have some kind of inner conflict going on — who we are versus who we present ourselves to be. There’s a lot to be discovered.”
 
Starfleet has such cool uniforms that get updated all the time but the civilian wear is shit.

It's obvious Starfleet gets their hand on all the good designers.
 

TVexperto

Member
Wait so the bridge from the trailer is not the one which will be the main bridge on the tv show? cause the bridge in the trailer looked awful and dark
 

Shoeless

Member
Hot new infographic courtesy of TrekMovie. More uniformity at the [Great] Link below.

That's pretty crazy just how much detail they went into for a uniform meant to be used on a TV series. Hopefully they're actually comfortable to wear, or else maybe we'll see some iterations on the design as the series progresses, a la Next Generation.
 
It seems like a really good middle ground between the NX-01 era suits and the TOS uniforms. Outside of the division colouring, it seems like the nailed the look of early starfleet to me. I also appreciate the extra shoulder design to destinguish the Captain because I've always felt it was a little odd we had no uniformity where the captain was concerned (I am not counting that ugly captain's jacket in later seasons of TNG).
 
That's some Kelvinverse costume design if I ever saw it

Also, according to that design sheet, Lorca isn't a captain at the time of that picture.
 
Then is the chart wrong?

Chart says there should be a big fat color stripe on one shoulder to denote he's the Captain.

Shit ain't there.

edit: wait, is that the gold or is that the lighting. And is it on just one shoulder or both?

Ugh.

Yeah I think the lighting makes it look more silver, but he has the coloured shoulders and captain badge as per the chart.
 
Not really a fan of the uniform design. Seems like they're designing a superhero outfit more than a uniform. Take off the racing stripes on the sides.
I am glad that the commanding officer on the ship gets a separate shoulder indicator from their rank badge. Too long has the rank of captain often been synonymous with the commanding officer. The commanding officer is not always rank captain. Could be a rear admiral, or a commander, etc. Im glad the uniform has a separate piece to make the commanding officer distinction separate from the badge.

The most respectable uniforms in starfleet were the 2150s and 2370s.
 
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