BoogieWoogie
Banned
I missed the librarian shot...I'll have to keep my eyes peeled when I see it again.
It's great because it's out of focus, making it creepier because it's clear she's practically about to jump over her desk to get at Ben.
I missed the librarian shot...I'll have to keep my eyes peeled when I see it again.
The librarian shot was amazing. One of the creepiest parts for me because like you said they don't draw focus to it.
This is the kind ot horror I like and I would make and I often wonder why no one does it more frequently. I imagine it's a faux pas or unwritten rule or what not? That would be dumb.The librarian shot was amazing. One of the creepiest parts for me because like you said they don't draw focus to it.
I'm almost 100% those are leftovers from a different version of the scene.
Yea that's how it felt to me. I was like she looks sort of creepy, but then there was zero payoff.
Was alright but I'm getting bored of 80s nostalgia and this story doesn't seem to have much depth to it
I thought the secret of the clown was going to be more interesting than it was
this was basically Goosebumps
My favorite shot of the film was from the scene in the library wherein one of the kids was researching Derry's history. While the shot focuses on the kid intensely flipping through the pages, you can vaguely see in the blurred background one of the librarians staring and smiling at him. The background is blurred due to depth of field so you can't really see her in detail, but it's unmistakeable that she is staring right at the kid, and he's completely unaware. It's a deeply unsettling shot because it never calls attention to her. No cuts to her, no rack focus shift. It's only noticeable if you are really looking for it.
With the amazing box office results, I wonder if part 2 will get a bigger budget to allow for even more creepy effects and hopefully a decent looking Spider at the end.
Just the fact that they'll have to get an ensemble cast of adult actors likely has to mean a bigger budgetWith the amazing box office results, I wonder if part 2 will get a bigger budget to allow for even more creepy effects and hopefully a decent looking Spider at the end.
Personally I'd much rather prefer unknownsI hope they splash out a bit on the cast if anything. The kids were incredible. Getting some names to play the adult versions appeals to me.
Needful Things and Tommyknockers are both greatIT was my first King book and I loved it. What would any of you recommend I read next?
Oh man that scene was well done. I told my wife to look at the back of the kid. She didn't notice it at first.
With the amazing box office results, I wonder if part 2 will get a bigger budget to allow for even more creepy effects and hopefully a decent looking Spider at the end.
Personally I'd much rather prefer unknowns
A lot of actors can convincingly become their characters or feel different, rather just being "X playing whoever" onscreen, but I've found that having unknowns adds another layer between the reality of filmmaking and the vision of the presented story. I've noticed it when watching foregin movies and shows; there's something about not being familiar with the actors onscreen that makes a story feel more real.I did like the idea of Charlie Cox as Bill, but broadly I'd agree - the chemistry and ability of the adult cast is key, and the idea that it needs "names" is one to avoid. If a name actor is a good fit physically, ability-wise or in chemistry with the other actors, fine - if not, don't force someone "bankable" in.
How can you improve on perfection?I want a remake of the Langoliers.
Langoliers fucked me up as a kid. Loved itI want a remake of the Langoliers.
Its easy to miss because she is initially preoccupied, then walks up to a table and just stares, grinning for like 10 seconds, while everyone around her goes about their business.I completely missed the weird librarian. Well, guess I'll just have to go see the movie again then.
How can you improve on perfection?
The dark tower series is amazing but it's a massive, massive investment.
'11/22/63' is really damn solid, it's proof he's still got the spark somehow.
I too am just kinda jumping into king but I'm learning he's alot more interesting then his legacy let's on. His adaptations usually take away the things that make him such a crazy interesting writer (please be good it part 2).
If you don't mind spoilers might I recommend looking up the history of the monster. IT might be the most insanely interesting history of a monster ever written.
Bring back Seth Green from the mini series as Richie.I assume there has been no casting for the adults yet? Cuz damn if Bill didn't look like the guy from Silicon Valley who was also Gabe on the office.
Does anyone know how I might be able to get a clear screencap of the weird "cat" shirt one of the bullys is wearing while chasing Ben?
I remember the graphic being really cool looking and I want to draw it!
It's great because it's out of focus, making it creepier because it's clear she's practically about to jump over her desk to get at Ben.
Yea that's how it felt to me. I was like she looks sort of creepy, but then there was zero payoff.
She also teleports around the library depending on the shot. It really seems like there was an earlier version of that scene they decided against for whatever reason, and they just repurposed some of the shots for the version in the film.
Or she was just a bad extra and they didnt catch it on the set
As great as this movie was, I hope there is an unrated / extended version for the blu-ray that deals with The Bowers gang a bit better. I was hoping we would get the flying leeches scene with Patrick, that would have been cool but what happens in the movie was a bit lame.
Victor and Belch just disappear from the movie too, so I'm hoping an extended cut fixes this problem and they go with Henry at the end and we get their death scenes too, unless they made this change on purpose and they are going to be around for part 2, instead of Henry or maybe even with Henry, if he survived the fall.
Does anyone know how I might be able to get a clear screencap of the weird "cat" shirt one of the bullys is wearing while chasing Ben?
I remember the graphic being really cool looking and I want to draw it!
Cause kids are missingSo why does the town have a 7pm curfew at the start of the movie? What was that all about?
Because someone is killing kids.So why does the town have a 7pm curfew at the start of the movie? What was that all about?
In the book, people think there's a killer roaming the town due to kids being killed (not merely missing like in the movie), so a curfew is enacted.So why does the town have a 7pm curfew at the start of the movie? What was that all about?
My favorite shot of the film was from the scene in the library wherein one of the kids was researching Derry's history. While the shot focuses on the kid intensely flipping through the pages, you can vaguely see in the blurred background one of the librarians staring and smiling at him. The background is blurred due to depth of field so you can't really see her in detail, but it's unmistakeable that she is staring right at the kid, and he's completely unaware. It's a deeply unsettling shot because it never calls attention to her. No cuts to her, no rack focus shift. It's only noticeable if you are really looking for it.
I wish there were more bits like that, because I otherwise I really don't think the film left any mark on me. Great kids though. Very likable and convincing performances. I liked them all. Best thing about It, really.
That shirt stood out to me too, I was thinking it'd be great to put up on RedBubble, The character Patrick Hockstetter in the movie was wearing it if that helps.
I agree with you guys that the movie isn't overly scary but it settles into your bones in a way that has continued to creep me out since. Ill think back to several scene's and it starts to unnerve me which is exactly how I remember feeling as a kid with the original. I can't remember the last time a "scary" movie had that kind of effect.
Plus my friends left several balloons floating in my parking garage last night and that made me feel proper messed up.
I agree with you guys that the movie isn't overly scary but it settles into your bones in a way that has continued to creep me out since. Ill think back to several scene's and it starts to unnerve me which is exactly how I remember feeling as a kid with the original. I can't remember the last time a "scary" movie had that kind of effect.
Plus my friends left several balloons floating in my parking garage last night and that made me feel proper messed up.
If you can say this movie had such an effect, but then say it wasn't overly/particularly scary, then what exactly does "scary" even mean for a horror movie? I'd argue that if a movie can make you feel like that, it's more scary and effective than a movie that can't. Like that should be the highest goal of a scary movie, that haunting feeling that sticks with you well after you see itThe Witch was the last film to do that to me.
And I've been feeling the same. I didn't find it particularly scary, but I'll be damned if that Georgie in the basement scene hasn't stuck with me big time.
"It wasn't scary" is a common criticism you see when anything horror is discussed (cough The Witch cough), and I think over the years, I've come to see that kind of assessment as odd. It seems to imply that if a movie or work isn't actively scaring you, making you feel fear, than it's a failure in the horror department. Maybe it's not even horror.
Although when I hear criticism like that, I tend to envision their definition of "scary" as said work making them react like this during it
But I feel like the idea that something horror has to scare you to be considered as such to be pretty narrow. Especially when you consider that a veteran of the genre and subgenres has probably seen dozens or hundreds of takes on various genres, and thus the mechanisms of those genres have probably long been acclimated to.
But horror can unsettle and disturb, make you feel uncomfortable and tense. Personally I don't think those are the kinds of reactions that are usually associated with the "it wasn't scary, it wasn't actually horror" criticism. To be fair, it's way easier to startle with a quick scare than it is to create an atmosphere of dread, so I can see why the former has been so closely linked with what a work of horror is supposed to be do
The Witch was the last film to do that to me.
And I've been feeling the same. I didn't find it particularly scary, but I'll be damned if that Georgie in the basement scene hasn't stuck with me big time.
If you can say this movie had such an effect, but then say it wasn't overly/particularly scary, then what exactly does "scary" even mean for a horror movie? I'd argue that if a movie can make you feel like that, it's more scary and effective than a movie that can't. Like that should be the highest goal of a scary movie, that haunting feeling that sticks with you well after you see it
If that isn't scary, then what is? I find it an odd juxtaposition between saying a movie wasn't scary but it's still haunting your thoughts and unsettling you days later
I actually made a thread about that last year
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1362779
As great as this movie was, I hope there is an unrated / extended version for the blu-ray that deals with The Bowers gang a bit better. I was hoping we would get the flying leeches scene with Patrick, that would have been cool but what happens in the movie was a bit lame.
Victor and Belch just disappear from the movie too, so I'm hoping an extended cut fixes this problem and they go with Henry at the end and we get their death scenes too, unless they made this change on purpose and they are going to be around for part 2, instead of Henry or maybe even with Henry, if he survived the fall.
Agreed. Having read the book, I was expecting a lot more from The Bowers gang - what was presented and the changes made were quite disappointing tbh.
Can't believe they cut the "Bev fucks all the guys in the sewer" part from the book.
What the fuck was King thinking with this?? Does anyone know?
Can't believe they cut the "Bev fucks all the guys in the sewer" part from the book.
What the fuck was King thinking with this?? Does anyone know?
Does anyone know how I might be able to get a clear screencap of the weird "cat" shirt one of the bullys is wearing while chasing Ben?
I remember the graphic being really cool looking and I want to draw it!