Agent Dormer said:That Red Sox comment ruined the entire article. If you're gonna reference that old curse, make sure to get the info right.
Strangely though, it's not even in the real article.
Agent Dormer said:That Red Sox comment ruined the entire article. If you're gonna reference that old curse, make sure to get the info right.
Good point. As development/production costs continue to rise, we're just going to keep seeing development houses being sucked up by larger companies. It's simply too expense for some of these people to develop a game for one console with a limited market share, let alone all three consoles.border said:All this stuff about the market expanding, and yet magazines are going out of business, publishers are on the brink, and EA is buying everything under the sun. The market can expand, but the companies running things may still need to consolidate. A dwindling marketshare may mean that you'll just be overtaken by one of the behemoths.
SantaCruZer said:While it's true, it sounds too generic to only create 1st person shooters and EA like sports games. No thanks.
GamerDiva said:But it is this losing of marketshare that is calling for Nintendo to finally have one clear vision and to stick to it.
I realize that the Red Sox hadn't won in 80+ years, but isn't the curse itself only ~50 years old?Agent Dormer said:That Red Sox comment ruined the entire article. If you're gonna reference that old curse, make sure to get the info right.
ge-man said:I should put it another way--Nintendo should forget about trying to earn a specific position and concentrate on discovering who their audience truly is.
2. Forget the bottom line.
ge-man said:How? As someone said earlier, the most people that come into a market, the less space there is for each competitor. I think the most important point in the article is the idea that Nintendo needs to find a solid strategy and figure out who they are actually selling their games to. That is going to be the key for their from here on out--they should forget what is happening with their market share at the moment.
Fix said:This man is a business genius!
seismologist said:My only complaint is they need to start making more first party mature franchises and stop putting Mario in everything.
Azih said:Nintendo's mindshare is shrinking in all segments, and that includes the hardcore. Will RE4 and Zelda help a bit? sure, but it won't be sustained and if that's all the gamecube's got then the bounce will be completely lost by the time the next gen wars begin.
Plus merely 'retaining' marketshare isn't enough given their weak position.
Error Macro said:Nintendo are so wrapped up in maximizing profit, that they deliver the cheapest hardware possible. Freakin' idiots. Microsoft lost money on the Xbox... But look at what it has: digital video out, digital audio out, a built in ethernet card, a hard drive. Nintendo has none of these things now, with their recent removal of the digital video out port on the 101 models.
binary said:I think Nintendo already knows who they are selling their games to, but Nintendo realizes they aren't getting anywhere by selling only to them. That is why you see the Resident Evils and Eternal Darknesses. Nintendo is desperately seeking new people to buy its' products because the people they are used to selling their games to simply aren't buying from them anymore.
ToxicAdam said:I was most bothered by the fact that he compared Sega's software to Nintendo's (third party) software prospects. Nintendo is peerless (maybe EA) if they would become a third party company.
ToxicAdam said:I was most bothered by the fact that he compared Sega's software to Nintendo's (third party) software prospects. Nintendo is peerless (maybe EA) if they would become a third party company.
You have no fuckin' idea of how true is this. In today's market smaller publications are becoming more and more important to promote games, do you realize that TeamXbox was nothing but a (still) terrible fansite? Now is a part of IGN and has millions of readers. Both Sony and MS have courted fansites with free games, trips, exclusive material and some insights on certain titles, knowing that they are going to be more enthusiastic and much cheaper than the pros, heck Sony has built entire fansites to promote their games, they are THE MASTERS of viral marketing. Yet, Nintendo still embraces their hollier than you attitude, alienating not just fansites but small printed publications. Do you know how fucking stupid is to BUY Nintendo games to review them one month later because they won't send you jackshit while any other companies from the business are sending you free games and even relatively expensive hardware to test? They need to get off of their white horse, a large part of PlayStation's brand strenght came from independent magazines small websites and radio programs.Nintendo is notably more harsh than Microsoft or Sony in its handling
Error Macro said:Actually, he's dead on, there.
Nintendo are so wrapped up in maximizing profit, that they deliver the cheapest hardware possible. Freakin' idiots. Microsoft lost money on the Xbox... But look at what it has: digital video out, digital audio out, a built in ethernet card, a hard drive. Nintendo has none of these things now, with their recent removal of the digital video out port on the 101 models. All because they saved a couple of dollars per unit. Screw them. I'm the freaking consumer; I want my investment to be worthwhile. They should be loading the Revolution down with all the features they could possibly fit in it.
Funky Papa said:You have no fuckin' idea of how true is this. In today's market fansites are becoming more and more important to promote games, do you realize that TeamXbox was nothing but a (still) terrible fansite? Now is a part of IGN and has millions of readers. Both Sony and MS have courted fansites with free games, trips, exclusive material and some insights on certain titles, knowing that they are going to be more enthusiastic and much cheaper than the pros, heck Sony has built entire fansites to promote their games, they are THE MASTERS of viral marketing. Yet, Nintendo still embraces their hollier than you attitude, alienating not just fansites but small printed publications. Do you know how fucking stupid is to BUY Nintendo games to review them one month later because they won't send you jackshit while any other companies from the business are sending you free games and even relatively expensive hardware to test? They need to get off of their white horse, a large part of PlayStation's brand strenght came from independent magazines small websites and radio programs.
/small mag freelancer rant off
Funky Papa said:You have no fuckin' idea of how true is this. In today's market smaller publications are becoming more and more important to promote games, do you realize that TeamXbox was nothing but a (still) terrible fansite? Now is a part of IGN and has millions of readers. Both Sony and MS have courted fansites with free games, trips, exclusive material and some insights on certain titles, knowing that they are going to be more enthusiastic and much cheaper than the pros, heck Sony has built entire fansites to promote their games, they are THE MASTERS of viral marketing. Yet, Nintendo still embraces their hollier than you attitude, alienating not just fansites but small printed publications. Do you know how fucking stupid is to BUY Nintendo games to review them one month later because they won't send you jackshit while any other companies from the business are sending you free games and even relatively expensive hardware to test? They need to get off of their white horse, a large part of PlayStation's brand strenght came from independent magazines small websites and radio programs.
/small mag freelancer rant off
You nailed it. I still remember the day our local TV games channel (Game One) was showing Majora's Mask, and they guy was explaining that they had the beta game CHAINED to a N64, and they would have both console and game only for 24 hours. And that was one week before the game would be released in France, a game that was already available in the US and Japan since some time.Funky Papa said:You have no fuckin' idea of how true is this. In today's market smaller publications are becoming more and more important to promote games, do you realize that TeamXbox was nothing but a (still) terrible fansite? Now is a part of IGN and has millions of readers. Both Sony and MS have courted fansites with free games, trips, exclusive material and some insights on certain titles, knowing that they are going to be more enthusiastic and much cheaper than the pros, heck Sony has built entire fansites to promote their games, they are THE MASTERS of viral marketing. Yet, Nintendo still embraces their hollier than you attitude, alienating not just fansites but small printed publications. Do you know how fucking stupid is to BUY Nintendo games to review them one month later because they won't send you jackshit while any other companies from the business are sending you free games and even relatively expensive hardware to test? They need to get off of their white horse, a large part of PlayStation's brand strenght came from independent magazines small websites and radio programs.
/small mag freelancer rant off
Blimblim said:I still remember the day our local TV games channel (Game One) was showing Majora's Mask, and they guy was explaining that they had the beta game CHAINED to a N64, and they would have both console and game only for 24 hours.
There needs to be an IMDB-esque resource for games, the IMDB database is awesometacular.gofreak said:edit - Had a look at gamerankings - gee, what a waste. All those reviews and they can't offer such interesting statistics as average score by publisher etc.
:lolHeh, if Steve posted here the mods would ban him for picking on Nintendo, and then he'd get a tag.
Random_Hajile said:On the console side, its harder to imagine where Nintendo fits in
now than it was 12 months ago, says Taylor.
When asked, the clerk at a GameStop store in Hawaii said that his store
had sold out of PlayStation 2 and Xbox. We still have GameCubes in
stock.
Funky Papa said:You have no fuckin' idea of how true is this. In today's market smaller publications are becoming more and more important to promote games, do you realize that TeamXbox was nothing but a (still) terrible fansite? Now is a part of IGN and has millions of readers. Both Sony and MS have courted fansites with free games, trips, exclusive material and some insights on certain titles, knowing that they are going to be more enthusiastic and much cheaper than the pros, heck Sony has built entire fansites to promote their games, they are THE MASTERS of viral marketing. Yet, Nintendo still embraces their hollier than you attitude, alienating not just fansites but small printed publications. Do you know how fucking stupid is to BUY Nintendo games to review them one month later because they won't send you jackshit while any other companies from the business are sending you free games and even relatively expensive hardware to test? They need to get off of their white horse, a large part of PlayStation's brand strenght came from independent magazines small websites and radio programs.
/small mag freelancer rant off
mumu said:I stopped reading here. Someone should lock the thread, it's not gonna be nice.
ROTFLMAO :lolOdnetnin said:cry me a river. "I don't get my freebies + stuff to line my pockets." If you stopped at the statement regarding courting fans + mainstream.
GamerDiva said:I disagree. I thought Sega was better than Nintendo (software wise) when they had their Dreamcast machine but it seems like they lost their passion when they went third party. I feel supporting your own console brings the best out of you. Who's to say that the same thing won't happen to Nintendo, especially noting that Sony and MS will be throwing tons of cash around for their own exclusive Nintendo titles?
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0761536434/Odnetnin said:IAWTP. And can someone refresh me who Steve Kent is? Is he from EA? I think he is anyhow.
AniHawk said:Yes. Steven Kent is from EA. He's the president of it, actually.
Odnetnin said:And can someone refresh me who Steve Kent is? Is he from EA? I think he is anyhow.
ToxicAdam said:/me points to the "million unit sellers thread" posted today. Sega has nothing on Nintendo in terms of franchises.
4. Americanize, Americanize, Americanize
GamerDiva said:That wasn't my point nor does selling a million copies mean a game is good or that I'd like it.
During my Dreamcast days, IMO, Sega was making better games than Nintendo was.
Blimblim said:http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0761536434/
He is (was) a very respected writer, and this book is a reference.
lockii said:Thanks for the link, actually looks to be a decent book, I may buy later on today. One question though, io the product description, there's mention of 'The videogame that saved Nintendo from bankruptcy' - What was that game?