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Steven Seagal is being sued for all kinds of crazy shit

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pakkit said:
RiskyChris has ruined no less than 4 threads within the past 2 days.

If this is some grand trolling scheme, I applaud your efforts.

:lol how is this thread ruined? We're still talking about the girl and Steven Seagal and the motivations behind the encounter.

God you guys have such a grudge against me.
 

grumble

Member
RiskyChris said:
:lol how is this thread ruined? We're still talking about the girl and Steven Seagal and the motivations behind the encounter.

God you guys have such a grudge against me.

It's fairly obvious. You turn all these threads into something about how women are being abused by men. Your logic is flawed, too.
 
grumble said:
It's fairly obvious. You turn all these threads into something about how women are being abused by men. Your logic is flawed, too.

Holy loly I turned this thread about a girl getting abused by a guy into something about the abuse of women?!
 

pakkit

Banned
RiskyChris said:
Holy loly I turned this thread about a girl getting abused by a guy into something about the abuse of women?!
Common procedure dictates that we throw around some Seagal GIFs and generally make fun of his character. You've been here long enough to know that.

But no, now I can't even fap to my favorite pornstars with out your preachy abuse bullshit blueballing me.
 
pakkit said:
Common procedure dictates that we throw around some Seagal GIFs and generally make fun of his character. You've been here long enough to know that.

But no, now I can't even fap to my favorite pornstars with our your preachy abuse bullshit blueballing me.

I'm happy I ruined porn for you >=)

I'll remind people I posted in this thread originally in an attempt to explain to somebody why a woman might visit him a second day after the first's abuse. No agenda here.
 

RevenantKioku

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pakkit said:
RiskyChris has ruined no less than 4 threads within the past 2 days.

If this is some grand trolling scheme, I applaud your efforts.
Trolling is incredibly easy if you believe what you're saying.

Or are an idiot.
 
1:"Why would a woman go back to an abusive rich man a second time?"

2:"Well actually you see being rich is a very very attractive thing and therefore a woman might choose to deal with unfortunate abuse to hold on to that..."

1:"Troll troll troll!"
 

RevenantKioku

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That, or you're deserving of hugs and cookies.
 

RevenantKioku

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RiskyChris said:
What kind of threads about abuse am I allowed to post in? Prosecuted rape cases where the victim wasn't wearing a short skirt?
You're allowed to post wherever you want. If I were you, I wouldn't until I got those deep seeded issues worked out.

The problem is you're not saying anything of value. You're just trying to rock a boat. It's obvious and annoying.
 

Dead Man

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RiskyChris said:
1:"Why would a woman go back to an abusive rich man a second time?"

2:"Well actually you see being rich is a very very attractive thing and therefore a woman might choose to deal with unfortunate abuse to hold on to that..."


1:"Troll troll troll!"
That would be stupid, yes? Common maybe, but stupid none the less. So why support that course of action? It is saying that greed is a good motivator that can lead to bad consequences for which the greedy person should be excused.
 
RevenantKioku said:
The problem is you're not saying anything of value. You're just trying to rock a boat. It's obvious and annoying.

Dude.

Somebody asked why a girl would come back a second day, and I gave a very logical explanation why she would. Please instead of mocking me and calling me a troll, tell me what about the things I said was wrong and out of line.

idahoblue said:
That would be stupid, yes? Common maybe, but stupid none the less. So why support that course of action? It is saying that greed is a good motivator that can lead to bad consequences for which the greedy person should be excused.

I am not supporting it I am explaining why it happened and why people in power are assholes for manipulating people in this way.
 

Osietra

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........anyway.

Heres my top 5 Seagal films:

Out for Justice
Under Siege
Hard To Kill
Executive Decision
Under Siege 2.
 

Salazar

Member
Laughing Banana said:
I am not defending anyone, but I am honestly surprised that it is an okay thing in GAF to use the word "retard" as an insult like this :\

I don't think it is ok. The internet is, though, implicitly the realm of 'whatever you can get away with'.

In any case, there are so many beautiful insults that fall within acceptable discourse while still inflicting organ-liquefying internal injuries. Settling for 'retard' is like stepping on someone's shoelace.
 

RevenantKioku

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RiskyChris said:
Dude.

Somebody asked why a girl would come back a second day, and I gave a very logical explanation why she would. Please instead of mocking me and calling me a troll, tell me what about the things I said was wrong and out of line.
Because the question is rhetorical?

Laughing Banana said:
I am not defending anyone, but I am honestly surprised that it is an okay thing in GAF to use the word "retard" as an insult like this :\
I'm only offering up a possibility for consideration. I'm not calling anyone anything.

Or:

Some of my best friends are retards.
 

Cindres

Vied for a tag related to cocks, so here it is.
RiskyChris do you like, personally know all these women or something? You seem to know exactly how they think/what they were thinking/what their professional options are and were.
 

Dead Man

Member
Laughing Banana said:
I am not defending anyone, but I am honestly surprised that it is an okay thing in GAF to use the word "retard" as an insult like this :\
There was a thread for that last year I think. The majority opinion seemed to be that since being retarded is an objectively negative thing, it is a valid insult. I happen to agree with that, and think it is no different to calling someone a moron, or stupid. But many people did disagree so ymmv of course.

/derail.
RiskyChris said:
I am not supporting it I am explaining why it happened and why people in power are assholes for manipulating people in this way.
You are implicitly supporting by suggesting she had no ability to not be in that situation due to her greed. That assumes that greed is a valid motivator and people should not be held liable for their actions when motivated by it.
 
Cindres said:
RiskyChris do you like, personally know all these women or something? You seem to know exactly how they think/what they were thinking/what their professional options are and were.

If you don't think that was the reason then let's have a discussion about it. I'm not claiming to have The Answer, but rich guy is alluring to girl is not exactly unique.
 

RevenantKioku

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RiskyChris said:
Rhetorical or not it has a logical explanation. I'm sick of getting called a troll without anyone bothering to respond to my points.
What exactly is your "point"? That's what I'm getting at. You don't actually have one.

Day one she was a victim, day two she was a stupid victim. Stupid people are going to be mocked.
 
RevenantKioku said:
What exactly is your "point"? That's what I'm getting at. You don't actually have one.

Day one she was a victim, day two she was a stupid victim. Stupid people are going to be mocked.

I don't think she was entirely in control of her situation even on day two.

I don't mock victims, because I am not a robot w/o emotion. I also don't justify their actions, I pity them.

Edit: My point is if this is true then SS is an asshole, kinda like what the title of this thread suggests (getting into crazy lawsuits is not a positive thing)
 

RevenantKioku

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RiskyChris said:
I don't think she was entirely in control of her situation even on day two.
Yes. She was. She went back instead of immediately filing the suit. There's no question about this unless you're trying to do something. I have no idea what you're trying to do though. No one does.

I don't mock victims, because I am not a robot w/o emotion. I also don't justify their actions, I pity them.
You see, here's the problem with your reasoning. Things can be more than one thing at once. An apple can be delicious and cold. At the same time.

People aren't mocking her being victimized, if you haven't figured that out yet.
 
RevenantKioku said:
Yes. She was. She went back instead of immediately filing the suit. There's no question about this unless you're trying to do something. I have no idea what you're trying to do though. No one does.

You don't think the threat of losing a connection to a famous person could be something important to her? Maybe she isn't aware of her power in a legal situation? Maybe she is, but she still values being with a famous person over being treated like shit. These are not justifications for SS (allegedly) acting like a dickwad.

RevenantKioku said:
You see, here's the problem with your reasoning. Things can be more than one thing at once. An apple can be delicious and cold. At the same time.

People aren't mocking her being victimized, if you haven't figured that out yet.

I have already said I don't support her decision, that doesn't change the fact that SS is (allegedly) abusing and taking advantage of women he knows will put up with his shit.
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Back. Glad to see nobody's gotten anywhere. On with the show!
 

Zaptruder

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Laughing Banana said:
I am not defending anyone, but I am honestly surprised that it is an okay thing in GAF to use the word "retard" as an insult like this :\

Retard no long applies to just developmentally challenged individuals. It's become common parlance for terms like idiot, moron, imbecile, stupid, etc.
 

RevenantKioku

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RiskyChris said:
You don't think the threat of losing a connection to a famous person could be something important to her? Maybe she isn't aware of her power in a legal situation? Maybe she is, but she still values being with a famous person over being treated like shit. These are not justifications for SS (allegedly) acting like a dickwad.
Nor are they good justifications for going back to a second day of work somewhere where you're being sexually harassed.
Again, I raise you the "what exactly is your point?" card. You're making it sound like as soon as she started working for Seagal he controlled every aspect of her life. No one believes that.

I have already said I don't support her decision, that doesn't change the fact that SS is (allegedly) abusing and taking advantage of women he knows will put up with his shit.
Which does make him a terrible person, but it also doesn't make the woman a smart person. Unless the payout for a sexual harassment lawsuit increases with the time you put up with it or something.
 

Salazar

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Zaptruder said:
Retard no long applies to just developmentally challenged individuals. It's become common parlance for terms like idiot, moron, imbecile, stupid, etc.

It's beneath many people, and it should be beneath GAF.
 

Fuzzery

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RiskyChris said:
Because she was an assistant to someone famous? Another example of people taken advantage of in situations they can't easily escape.
If I offer you $10000 to cut yourself on the arm, am I taking advantage of you? Because it seems to me, I'm giving you an overwhelming incentive that is preventing you from getting away. This seems to be your line of argument here.
RiskyChris said:
Good job, staying with abusive assholes is not exactly rational. This is one of the reasons I am outspoken on this issue because women are very literally stuck in irrational tragedies.
Pretty misogynistic if I may say.
 
RevenantKioku said:
Nor are they good justifications for going back to a second day of work somewhere where you're being sexually harassed.
Again, I raise you the "what exactly is your point?" card. You're making it sound like as soon as she started working for Seagal he controlled every aspect of her life. No one believes that.

My point is a woman is easier to take advantage of the more powerful you are, as evidenced by the fact that a girl went back for more abuse to stay with a famous person.

I'm not justifying her actions, how many times do I have to say that. An asshole took advantage of somebody below him, that's that. That's my point. It's right there in the OP.

Fuzzery said:
If I offer you $10000 to cut yourself on the arm, am I taking advantage of you? Because it seems to me, I'm giving you an overwhelming incentive that is preventing you from getting away. This seems to be your line of argument here.

Yes, you are. That is pretty much a boiled down version of what happens here and in the porn thread too.
 

SapientWolf

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Laughing Banana said:
I am not defending anyone, but I am honestly surprised that it is an okay thing in GAF to use the word "retard" as an insult like this :\
Idiot, imbecile, and moron were all medical terms once too. Having limited mental facilities is going to be seen as a huge negative in our society no matter how much you dress up the term to describe it.

And speaking of limited mental facilities, why did this woman stay at Segal's den of depravity for 6 days without notifying the authorities?
 

RevenantKioku

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RiskyChris said:
My point is a woman is easier to take advantage of the more powerful you are, as evidenced by the fact that a girl went back for more abuse to stay with a famous person.

I'm not justifying her actions, how many times do I have to say that. An asshole took advantage of somebody below him, that's that. That's my point. It's right there in the OP.
Okay, well the next time your point is in the OP go give yourself a warm glass of milk and a cookie and stay off of GAF.

Your way of rewording the OP makes me want to give you a super special hug that lasts for so long and I just don't have that kind of time anymore.
 

Instro

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Laughing Banana said:
I am not defending anyone, but I am honestly surprised that it is an okay thing in GAF to use the word "retard" as an insult like this :\

Yeah its pretty offensive to the sizable part of the community thats mentally challenged.
 

SapientWolf

Trucker Sexologist
RiskyChris said:
Why are there more posts in this thread talking about how stupid this girl is than ripping on Seagal? Come on.
Because her story isn't adding up. There were warning signs that it wasn't a legit job from day 1, and it's not like he had her chained up in the basement. She could have left and called the police at any time. The fact that she's filing civil charges instead of criminal further leads me to suspect that there is a financial motivation behind this. Details scattered throughout the article allude to this as well.
 

RevenantKioku

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RiskyChris said:
Why are there more posts in this thread talking about how stupid this girl is than ripping on Seagal? Come on.
Honestly? Because most people probably don't think highly of Seagal to begin with.
SapientWolf said:
Because her story isn't adding up. There were warning signs that it wasn't a legit job from day 1, and it's not like he had her chained up in the basement. She could have left and called the police at any time. The fact that she's filing civil charges instead of criminal further leads me to suspect that there is a financial motivation behind this. Details scattered through the article allude to this as well.
And this intelligent sounding stuff.
 
RevenantKioku said:
Honestly? Because most people probably don't think highly of Seagal to begin with.

Fair enough.

SapientWolf said:
Because her story isn't adding up. There were warning signs that it wasn't a legit job from day 1, and it's not like he had her chained up in the basement. She could have left and called the police at any time. The fact that she's filing civil charges instead of criminal further leads me to suspect that there is a financial motivation behind this. Details scattered through the article allude to this as well.

This is an awesome response compared to "she could have left" because it actually addresses the idea that maybe there wasn't abuse on the hand of SS. Thank you.

RevenantKioku said:
And this intelligent sounding stuff.

Word, I'm not all agenda here.
 
There's a good chance she is a fame or money seeking whore, but it's also not hard to see why she'd pursue a civil suit rather than a criminal case. I mean, the accused is a famous action movie hero who was filming a show with the police in that jurisdiction.
 

SapientWolf

Trucker Sexologist
RiskyChris said:
Fair enough.

This is an awesome response compared to "she could have left" because it actually addresses the idea that maybe there wasn't abuse on the hand of SS. Thank you.
Oh, I'm pretty sure SS used his kung fu grip on all of those women. The only question is whether or not the women were seeking to profit from it.
 

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Cindres

Vied for a tag related to cocks, so here it is.
Don't you guys just hate when you're watching a porno, and you're about to finish so you try to skip to the good part but you misjudge it and the girl's getting abused by the industry?
 
Cindres said:
Don't you guys just hate when you're watching a porno, and you're about to finish so you try to skip to the good part but you misjudge it and the girl's getting abused by the industry?

There is a whole thread full of unprovoked attacks on me, can you keep it there?
 
Instro said:
Yeah its pretty offensive to the sizable part of the community thats mentally challenged.

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I'd like to high five your avatar for this one. Gold.
 

jorma

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RiskyChris said:
There is a whole thread full of unprovoked attacks on me, can you keep it there?

smh.. unbelievable

21st century Don Quixote come to life. Keep fighting those windmills.
 
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