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Streamer Sparks Debate Over Whether Twitch Should Allow Breastfeeding.
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
It's the internet. Gotta let everyone know what you're doing you're own way.
Next up......
..... man streams interview while taking a shit.
Next up......
..... man streams interview while taking a shit.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
There's a time and place for breastfeeding.
Doing it on camera on Twitch in a 10 second clip seems unreasonable. The baby can wait a few minutes.
So is taking a baby in to suck tits at a job interview. Not the right time to do it.
Dr. Claus
Vincit qui se vincit
Or they could do it then and there, but turn off the camera. Or simply not be on camera.
Heimdall_Xtreme
Jim Ryan Fanclub's #1 Member
People see it badly, others see it normal. For me it is a natural and normal behavior.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
So is taking a dump. Pretty sure that would be frowned upon if someone wanted to stream or upload a video of themselves wiping their ass before a Twitch feed.
Show people respect.
Heimdall_Xtreme
Jim Ryan Fanclub's #1 Member
In case the streamers show trash daily, so it is so simple not to see them.
Don't confuse a baby's need, compared to other adult behaviors
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
As long as it's done respectfully, nobody really cares about public space because it's your own space and time. Everyone is doing their own thing.
Doing it on a camera feed where the point of it is games, movies, a politician talking about policies or someone talking about their company's latest quarterly earnings report is pretty odd to have someone on camera having a baby sucking their tit at the same time.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
It is the internet.
Gotta get those clicks at any cost.
Next up...... hey camera crew, for the next video let's do it when it's time to change the baby's dirty diaper.
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Petrae
Member
Miss Milker’s case here is different than the stigma with breastfeeding in public. Sometimes, if you’ve got the tiny human in tow, it needs feeding and there isn’t always a private space to do it. I’m not a fan, but I get it and just ignore it if I happen to see it.
Bewbalicious in this case is streaming from a private place already. There’s no necessity in having to subject a viewing public to it. She can AFK. She can schedule shorter streams during this time of need. She just feels entitled to stream what should be a private activity— and expose her child to public eyes without its consent— because she wants attention. It’s a willful choice.
Unfortunately for her, streaming platforms don’t have to allow acts like this to be aired. No accommodations are needed, because again: She is doing this from home, where there are already plenty of accommodations that she is choosing not to utilize.
Bewbalicious in this case is streaming from a private place already. There’s no necessity in having to subject a viewing public to it. She can AFK. She can schedule shorter streams during this time of need. She just feels entitled to stream what should be a private activity— and expose her child to public eyes without its consent— because she wants attention. It’s a willful choice.
Unfortunately for her, streaming platforms don’t have to allow acts like this to be aired. No accommodations are needed, because again: She is doing this from home, where there are already plenty of accommodations that she is choosing not to utilize.
shaddam
Member
I was in a japanese restaurant, and a (problaby)japanese woman was breastfeeding her baby. I didn't think it was a problem at all, nobody cared. But doing it on stream I feel like its only for the clicks. I find it slighty disgusting to using your child. Boob streaming should die. Get a job or stream quality content
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Contica
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah, but my question was "why?".
And the nipple is allowed on TV at all hours here, it's the nature of the content that defines if it'll be aired late. So say someone feeding a child, or a science program talking about the body could be any time of day, while someone licking and fondling a breast in a sexual manner would be late.
Anything can be sexual. Some places knees and ancles are sexual.
Aintitcool
Banned
I mean even on neogaf our pervy threads are very censored. I saw no nipple on neogaf yet
IF you really want to go into a rabbit hole of why. I personally think it's circumcised men vs uncircumcised. The relationship to ones mother can become very deranged when you're an infant-3 years old getting cut and in pain for months. With only breast feeding and your mother comfort carrying you through the pain. A side effect of circumcision: https://circumcision.org/how-male-circumcision-harms-women/
Europe will pull real photography of bare breast and nipple in advertising. Yes it can be on tv even during the day and no big fuss happens depending on context. For example Fashion TV has no such issues. But the standard of moving it to post 10pm is very real on german television too.
MMaRsu
Banned
Grinchy
Banned
Yeah that's where I have a hard time understanding the people who seem to disagree with this idea somehow.
Streamers have all sorts of things they can do with their feed. If I was a streamer who had to whip out something that isn't supposed to be whipped out in front of the camera, I'd just press a button on my keyboard and it would switch scenes to a static image that says "BRB" or something on it. It's so simple. Pretending that she was involuntarily on display in this situation is asinine.
Portugeezer
Member
I'm all for it in public, but usually women don't want to attract too much attention to it, so the idea of doing it on camera with breast fully on show is a strange one to me. But I also don't sexualise breasts when it comes to breastfeeding, although many people do which is why Twitch probably thinks it's best to not allow it.
Aintitcool
Banned
Ehh so all of you weighing in right now claiming twitch was right. They revoked the ban and allow breastfeeding now.
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www.theverge.com
Breastfeeding does not violate Twitch’s rules, company confirms
Terms of service will be updated to provide transparency
www.theverge.com
Portugeezer
Member
How long can the nipple be whipped out, pre-breastfeeding, before it is classified as sexual by Twitch?Ehh so all of you weighing in right now claiming twitch was right. They revoked the ban and allow breastfeeding now.
Breastfeeding does not violate Twitch’s rules, company confirms
Terms of service will be updated to provide transparency
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Contica
Unconfirmed Member
Uhm, I'm not german, but I've been there, and you might be a tiny bit confused. What came on at ten wasn't a plain nipple in a movie or whatever, it was soft porn. A bit later at night came the tv ads for sex phone lines.
I've seen exposed bushy ladyparts on screen on TV in the afternoon in my country. But it wasn't sexual. It all depends on context.
I'm fascinated by how this suddenly became about circumcision though, had not thought of that, and not sure what to think about it. It makes some morbid kind of sense though that a culture that deems it fine to mutilate baby boys has a weird relationship with bodies in general.
Aintitcool
Banned
And I fucking lived in Austria 21 years now. I definitely can say what the TV stations and advertising standards do here. (Especially since germany shares all its public tv stations and cable shows with austria.) Yes in nature and a non-sexual context you can get away with both male and female nudity. Context of art also applies. But this is the law and standards:
Schluss mit sexistischer Werbung: Mit Brüsten werben ist so 1999 | BR.de
"Sex sells" immer noch. Da müssen Brüste auch mal für Fliesen herhalten. Wer keine Lust auf sexistische Werbung hat, kann sich jetzt wehren, bei "Werbemelder.in". Die Macher der Seite kämpfen gegen nackte Haut auf Werbeplakaten.
www.br.de
It is very different than the USA. I remember buying teen magazines that displayed a woman and man who were 18 completely nude to spread different body awareness. Full out naked 18 year old male and female side by side with their life story in a short bio. In a weekly magazine. Nothing you can sexualize unless you want it too. More like biology textbook.
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New Yorks Finest
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Damien Crowley
Member
Yeah, Bayrischer Rundfunk ... @Contica got it pretty spot on, after 10 in the evening (never got it right with this silly am/pm) in german free tv everything goes that's not outright hardcore porn they even cut down some "story heavy" porn movies to broadcast them. In the 90's we may not had the internet, but goddamn we stayed up late for a reason!And I fucking lived in Austria 21 years now. I definitely can say what the TV stations and advertising standards do here. (Especially since germany shares all its public tv stations and cable shows with austria.) Yes in nature and a non-sexual context you can get away with both male and female nudity. Context of art also applies. But this is the law and standards:
Schluss mit sexistischer Werbung: Mit Brüsten werben ist so 1999 | BR.de
"Sex sells" immer noch. Da müssen Brüste auch mal für Fliesen herhalten. Wer keine Lust auf sexistische Werbung hat, kann sich jetzt wehren, bei "Werbemelder.in". Die Macher der Seite kämpfen gegen nackte Haut auf Werbeplakaten.
It is very different than the USA. I remember buying teen magazines that displayed a woman and man who were 18 completely nude to spread different body awareness. Full out naked 18 year old male and female side by side with their life story in a short bio. In a weekly magazine. Nothing you can sexualize unless you want it too. More like biology textbook.
Source: german here!
Aintitcool
Banned
The news channels will show uncensored news with nudity if its there only after 10PM. Its disengenius to claim the post 10pm standard of germany is only for softcore/porno sex lines. It is a similar censorship to the states. Source: I too stayed up for the eurosport channel strip shows. Lingerie advertising in PUBLIC can not show nipple here too. Magazines, everything else practically yup no problem. We don't cover up museum statues either. When it is in the context of art/nature/biology europe does nothing. But we do censor it. And especially now with the larger muslim population it happens as a standard.
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#Phonepunk#
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Closest thing to prime time nudity allowed on US tv is if it’s the victim of a sexual crime ending up as a corpse in Law and Order: SVU
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Damien Crowley
Member
Well not in ALL of the programming, but VOX an Kabel 1 were notourious on (i think) thursdays and fridays... and you meant DSF not eurosport!
Fuz
Banned
The fact that there's a silly taboo around them doesn't mean they are sexual organs.
Aintitcool
Banned
Dude, women can have full body orgasms from stimulation of breast and nipple. Men can not. Orgasms usually associated with sexual organs. Men can't orgasm from it, that's the sexual organ difference.
Don't believe it? https://www.healthline.com/health/womens-health/nipple-orgasm
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Fuz
Banned
And some women can have orgasms with anal sex, feet stimulation or just being whipped and tied. So?
They're *still* not sexual organs.
Trojita
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Aintitcool
Banned
The women orgasm happens via anal is because the G Spot can be stimulated from the anus. Via the vaginal wall that borders it. From gay men I heard they enjoy the surreal feeling of stimulated prostate glands. (though having never felt this I don't want to comment on it but it doesn't cause the man being anally stimulated to ejaculate).
Fetish pleasure from tied up and abuse. Is not orgasm inducing. It is the pain pleasure mix that thrives them. A dominant pleasuring his subject as a mercy from the pain. I don't want to become a sex ed educator. But I see validity in the argument. To me a woman's nipple is a sexual organ. But the anus is not. So that's where subjectivity does fall in.
I mean this thread is also proof. That is a video example. Not very well produced or a sociological study but definitely based on reality.Did you seriously just post a Joey Salads video as proof?
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Trojita
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It’s just that Joey Salads is a known fraud. He hires actors.
Fuz
Banned
I'm sorry, I don't want to sound rude, but this is not up to debate and personal opinion.
Aintitcool
Banned
Okay, well it was the best example I found. More people should make such videos.
Aintitcool
Banned
Womens nipples are directly connected to their sexual organs. The nerve endings meetup. The production of milk are the later stages of reproduction as an unfed child will die. Biologist categorize breast with sexual organs. "
| Breast | External | Produce and deliver milk |
https://opentextbc.ca/biology/chapter/24-3-human-reproductive-anatomy-and-gametogenesis/
So unless you're a biologist with a different school of thought. You can't claim it as fact.
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MisterBrimstone
Member
What seems crazy to me is people hiding the real intention behind all this. People can't be this naive.
All these things (like breastfeeding live) are tactics for views. There is absolutely no need to do it live, same as every other tactic these girls exploit in order to get losers to subscribe and donate. It's like these cosplays that look nothing like the character but show 95% of boobs (looking at you nigri), it's plain stupid to think that this is done for anything else than money.
So yeah, talk about this subject but let's not act like they are talking with the moral high-ground as they are using every tactic for personal gain.
All these things (like breastfeeding live) are tactics for views. There is absolutely no need to do it live, same as every other tactic these girls exploit in order to get losers to subscribe and donate. It's like these cosplays that look nothing like the character but show 95% of boobs (looking at you nigri), it's plain stupid to think that this is done for anything else than money.
So yeah, talk about this subject but let's not act like they are talking with the moral high-ground as they are using every tactic for personal gain.
Fuz
Banned
Sexual organs are reproductive organs only. But you can keep being wrong, I don't care.
Thabass
Member
Rule 34 exists for a reason.
Also, I don't have a problem with them streaming breastfeeding, but I'm not sure this is the audience for it. You're just going to get snarky replies and comments regardless. I'm not female, so it's not my place to say what it is and isn't allowed to be on Stream, but I think Twitch taking it down was silly.
Don't they have a NSFW filter anyway?
Aintitcool
Banned
Feeding the born children is not part of reproduction? Either way doctors differ on the opinion. But the psychological impact is very real from nipples being connected directly to cliteral arrasousal. https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/the-human-beast/201305/sexual-wiring-womens-breasts
PS:The other link was british based biological anatomy descriptions.
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Damien Crowley
Member
Those derailed discussions in here... pure entertainment
lukilladog
Member
I´d never dare to tell a woman where, how, and under what conditions to feed her baby. Well, maybe if she was doing it at the edge of a bridge or something, but internet´s snowflakes feelings should not be of her concern.
Halo is Back
Member
Why is breast feeding controversial in the first place?
