To keep the Dojo thread from becoming a rumor thread, we should compile and discuss the rumors/prophets here. I will start by listing some of the "prophets" that the smash boards have not debunked yet, as well as their predictions.
NeoGAF's own 'leaker':
NeoGAF's own 'leaker':
MarkMan said:I will say this, 35 characters, 41 stages. That's it.
MarkMan said:No third party characters that haven't already been announced...
rapscouter
Rapscouter is possibly the most famous one of the bunch, he was the one who leaked a number of things about Pokémon Diamond and Pearl before it was released. He returns with a number of predictions, however, GameFAQs seems to keep deleting his posts, but I have Notepad files of all his predictions, and I will post them here, instead of posting a link.
For each set, he has stated that three things within are lies.
-Super Smash Bros. will be on the Virtual Console Feb. 4th. (The idea has been tossed around among leakers)
-Blastoise, Zapdos, Luxray, Combusken, and Grovyle will be pokeball pokemon. (Blastoise & Zapdos are likely to return)
-There will be no more delays, this game will be out Feb. 10th. This game is Finished and has been finished the only reason it was delayed is so it didn't conflict with Super Mario Galaxy's sales. (Surprisingly, we all thought this was a bona fide truth. Not any more!)
-The Dojo will reveal the 3rd third party character not this week, but the following week. (1/14/2008-1/18/2008){No third party character}
-Metal Gear Solid will have three ATs, Cyber Ninja, Revolver Ocelot, and someone else who will bring a smile to your face. Revolver Ocelot stands on on side of the level and rapidly fires at everyone other that the person who threw the AT. (Possibly referring to Raiden, who is mentioned by forbrawlbattle & ChaoticImplosion; Cyber Ninja AKA Gray Fox confirmed via the DOJO, Raiden may have been confirmed at JumpFesta)
-Ditto is an extremely powerful pokeball pokemon.
Many people will not be surprised by the third 3rd party character, but many will be.
-Sothe, Trace, Professor Oak, and Kiddy Kong are Assist Trophiess. (Sothe was confirmed at JumpFesta; forbrawlbattle said Sothe, Trace & Professor Oak as well)
-Luigi's Mansion, Gorons Mountain, and Kaptain K. Rool's ship are levels in SSBB. (jhonnyturbotti mentions Gangplank Galleon, AKA K. Rool's ship)
-The third 3rd party's character level is from the same series, but not from the same game as him.
-1/2 of the SSB levels and 1/3 of SSBM levels are going to be in SSBB with improved graphics
-There's really a forth third party character that's gonna blow minds, don't who it is because my friend wouldn't even tell me.
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-Falco will return due to his popularity. (Disagrees with ChaoticImplosion; Agrees with ChaosZero)
-Wii Bowling, Wii Shop, and Big Boss Blue's are all music in the game. (Wii Shop Music was confirmed via the Pictochat update)
-Poke Floats 2, and a level based on one of Bowser's airships will be in SSBB. (Poké Floats 2 was deconfirmed by Serebii)
-There will be DLC new levels and possibly items, ATs, and characters.
-The Ditto pokeball pokemon most of you thought was a lie, well if it was and even if it wasn't a lie, let me continue giving you some more information on him, when he comes out of the ball he copies the character that threw the ball, and unleashes their final smash. That's the reason I said he was really powerful.
-Rawk Hawk, Tricky, Twinrova, and kremlings are going to be Assist Trophies.
The boss battles from The Legend of Zelda in the Subspace Emissary are going to be big and epic.
-Tails, Knuckles, and Dr. Eggman are all the assist trophiess from Sonic that I know of. (Tails was mentioned byChaoticImplosion & forbrawlbattle)
-About 65% of the hidden characters are unlocked in the Subspace Emissary. (Sakurai did say a majority of characters would be unlocked through SSE)
-There is a level called Through Time and Space.
-Luigi will be able to jump higher and run faster, but slide sorta like in Super Mario Galaxy. (Luigi confirmation)
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-The Frozen Flower, Bob-Omb, and the Red Shell are all items in SSBB.
-Salamence, Hitmochan, Hitmonlee, and Staryu are all pokeball pokemon.
-Saffron City, Sector Z, Hyrule Castle, Mushroom Kingdom and Dream Land will return with improved graphics. (Serebii has deconfirmed Saffron City as returning)
-The Soundtrack for this game will be epic, there are supposedly over 200 songs in this game. It will have everything from The Super Mario Bros theme to The Metal Gear Solid theme.
-In Subspace Emissary there will sometimes be guest characters that join up with you, that will not be in the playable character roster. (One_Step87 refers to ATs helping out in SSE)
-Tauroneo, Impa, and Boo are Assist Trophies.
-Some Music from Fire Emblem will be Fire Emblem Theme, The Strong, and Ascent.
-Ganondorf will be returning in his Twilight Princess form, and Fight with a sword, but move very slowly. (Interview w/ Eiji Aonuma, prophets have agreed)
-Green Hill Zone, and Good Egg Galaxy are levels in SSBB. (One_Step87 says both of these)
-An item called Rare Candy will temporarily make you stronger.
-Roy, and Marth are being taken out and being replaced by characters from Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn. (disagrees with jhonnyturbotic)
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-Fire Rods and Ice Rods will be items.
-Rundas, Daisy, Chain Chomp, and Agahnim will be ATs. (forbrawlbattle says he saw a Chain Chomp AT; jhonnyturbotti says this as well)
-Gateway Galaxy, and Chozo Ruins will be levels.
-Ridley is in Subspace Emissary.
-Final Destination is back. (Most leakers have said this)
-Metal Gear Solid will also have a item in SSBB, Magazine throw on the floor and if a fighter walks over it they will become distracted by it.
-Regirock, Registeel, and Regice will be pokeball pokemon.
-Supspace Emissary will take around 2-5 hours to beat depending on your skill level and how many worlds you wanna beat.
-Ness is back and playable, he has NOT been removed. (Most leakers have said this)
-Captain Falcon is back with a new moveset.
-There will be around 65-75 levels.
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-Another Fire Emblem level will be in.
-Mewtwo will be returning. (Disagrees with ChaosZero and One_Step87)
-Leafeon, Vaporeon, and Jolteon will be pokeball pokemon.(Leafeon confirmed via WHOBBY)
-There will be no rival P.T. in the game. (C'mon Blaziken, Turtwig, and Croconaw I think it was no, if anything it would be Blastoise, Charmeleon, and Bulbasaur, maybe or maybe not, but I do know Blastoise would be in the there.
-Rayquaza will not be the only Pokemon boss in Subspace Emissary.
-The third 3rd party character is from Capcom.
-There will be a level in here that will have SNES graphics. (I have no idea what it's from, but that's how it was described to me.)
-After you get all the cds, you can supposedly upload your own music via memory stick.
-Twilight Fossil- Stallord, and Twilight Igniter- Fyrus are bosses in Subspace Emissary.
-Monty Mole, and Professor E. Gadd are assist trophies.
{-Big Goron's Sword, and Poison Mushroom are items.(Poison Mushroom confirmed via WHOBBY]}
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-Thomp, Birdo, and Magikoopa are ATs. (forbrawlbattle also says Birdo will be an AT)
-Items from Mario Party will be in here.
-Third Party Characters will be in Subspace Emissary.
-There will be a co-op Arcade mode.
-Not all levels will have reps.
-In Subspace Emissary Snake teams up with the more cartoonish characters.
-All Star mode will return.
-Sonic and Link team up in Subspace Emissary.
-Lon Lon milk will be an item.
-There will be a level from Donkey Kong Country 3, and a old school Wario game.
-Bowser Jr. is an Assist Trophey. (ChaoticImplosion decomfirmed him as a playable character)
ChaosZero
On Halloween 2007, a post was (supposedly) made by ChaosZero, describing the Dragoon parts in amazing detail. The funny thing is that the Dragoon Parts were not so much as acknowledged by Sakurai until the 12/28 DOJO Update. Thus, ChaosZero became the first true "prophet" that people stand to believe.
-Character: Sheik (Interview w/ Eiji Aonuma; reason for why Zelda's special moves have not been mentioned on DOJO or CoroCoro cards; Disagrees with Vatro Xu)
-Character: Lucario (Many prophets have said this, including Vatro Xu)
-Character: Ness (Vatro Xu disagrees)
-Character: Wolf O' Donnel (Agrees with ChaoticImplosion & Vatro Xu)
-Character: Falco Lombardi (Disagrees with ChaoticImplosion)
-Character: Ganondorf (See almightgoat for more details)
-Character: Captain Falcon (Agrees with Vatro Xu)
-Subspace Emissary Detail: Mewtwo (implied, if Mewtwo is not returning)
-Stage: Final Destination (Many prophets have said this)
-Item: Dragoon (10/30/2007) (Dragoon Parts update occurred 12/28/2007...
forbrawlbattle
This guy posted a list of 50 out of the large number of Assist Trophies that are potentially in Brawl. The list is a combo of confirmed and unconfirmed, with some interesting results. Here's the link: Gamespot post of forbrawlbattle's AT findings
-Assist Trophy: Samurai Goroh (F-Zero) (1/8/2008)
-Assist Trophy: Dr. Wright (SimCity) (1/8/2008)
-Assist Trophy: Hammer Bro (Mario series) (1/8/2008)
-Assist Trophy: Nintendogs (1/8/2008)
-Assist Trophy: Devil (Devil World) (1/8/2008)
-Assist Trophy: Knuckle Joe (Kirby) (1/8/2008)
-Assist Trophy: Stafy (1/8/2008)
-Assist Trophy: Jill (Drill Dozer) (1/8/2008) (Confirmed at E for All)
-Assist Trophy: Waluigi (Mario series) (1/8/2008)
-Assist Trophy: Lyn (Fire Emblem) (1/8/2008)
-Assist Trophy: Mr. Resetti (Animal Crossing) (1/8/2008)
-Assist Trophy: Saki Amamiya (Sin & Punishment) (1/8/2008)
-Assist Trophy: Little Mac (Punch Out!) (1/8/2008)
-Assist Trophy: Excitebike (1/8/2008)
-Assist Trophy: Gray Fox (Metal Gear Solid) (1/8/2008)
-Assist Trophy: Metroid (1/8/2008) (Confirmed at E for All)
-Assist Trophy: Lakitu (Mario series) (1/8/2008)
-Assist Trophy: Bullet Bills (Mario series)
-Assist Trophy: Chain Chomp (Mario series) (rapscouter says this, as does jhonnyturbotti)
-Assist Trophy: Tatanga (Super Mario Land)
-Assist Trophy: Birdo (Mario series) (Agrees with thealmightygoat)
-Assist Trophy: Mouser (Super Mario Bros. 2)
-Assist Trophy: Re-Dead (Zelda series)
-Assist Trophy: Tingle (Wind Waker) (agrees with thealmightygoat)
-Assist Trophy: Stalfos (Zelda series)
-Assist Trophy: Kracko (Kirby series)
-Assist Trophy: Sir Kibble AKA Enemy Kirby gets Cutter From (Kirby series)
-Assist Trophy: ZERO-ONE w/ Snap (Pokémon Snap) (ChaoticImplosion said this)
-Assist Trophy: Professor Oak (Pokémon series) (rapscouter mentions him)
-Assist Trophy: Kumatora (MOTHER 3) (refers to a pink haired girl with a blue & white dress from the MOTHER series)
-Assist Trophy: Duster (MOTHER 3) (refers to a character with a large nose and the snake from Lucas' tether recovery)
-Assist Trophy: Pig Mask Soldier (MOTHER 3)
-Assist Trophy: Claus (MOTHER 3)
-Assist Trophy: Arwings (StarFox)
-Assist Trophy: F-Zero Machines
-Assist Trophy: Advance Wars Infantry and Tanks (Confirmed at E for All)
-Assist Trophy: Sothe (Fire Emblem) (Report from JumpFesta; rapscouter mentions him)
-Assist Trophy: Tails (Sonic series) (ChaoticImplosion & rapscouter said this)
-Assist Trophy: Fiery Blowhog (Pikmin series)
-Assist Trophy: Windy Blowhog (Pikmin series)
-Assist Trophy: Pak E. Derm (Yoshi's Story)
-Assist Trophy: Chibi-Robo (Chibi-Robo for GCN)
-Assist Trophy: Raiden (Metal Gear Solid series) (mentioned by ChaoticImplosion; referred to by rapscouter)
-Assist Trophy: Doshin the Giant (GCN)
-Assist Trophy: Spire (Metroid Prime Hunters) (referred to as a boulder creature w/ spikes from MPH)
-Assist Trophy: Trace (Metroid Prime Hunters) (referred to as a weird red hunter; rapscouter mentions Trace)
-Assist Trophy: Baby Mario Bros. (Mario series; Yoshi series)
-Assist Trophy: Eggplant Wizard (Kid Icarus)
-Assist Trophy: Magikoopa (Mario series; Yoshi series)
-Assist Trophy: Thwomp (Mario series)
