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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS |OT3| Little Mac and Cheese

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k_hop

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Monster Zero said:
Well I won, pretty sure it was your link getting in my ass that helped me dodge this guy lol.
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Congrats! Maybe we'll rematch further in the brackets. >:)
If I don't lose to Masked Man that is. I don't think I've played him yet but he uses a Little Mac avatar... Makes me nervous. Hopefully my zoning will be on point
 
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Monster Zero

Junior Member
Captain Rage Quit 69 said:
Lol you scared me with the jump inhale and earthquake shit. I'm checking out Ike and Falco's customs, holy shit they're godlike. <3

No equips though, right? Gotta get my sets tourney legal.
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Yea, no equips, customs really change a way a character is played, unfortunately Only 1 of G&W's customs are decent, everything else is kinda comedic. *Giant bacon pieces, really nintendo*
 
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Captain Rage Quit 69

Banned
Monster Zero said:
Yea, no equips, customs really change a way a character is played, unfortunately Only 1 of G&W's customs are decent, everything else is kinda comedic. *Giant bacon pieces, really nintendo*
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I would've fucking loved to see that. Alright, so now I'm set. What did you think of my Ike? I'm trying out potential secondaries to see what fits.

Maybe I should pick up custom Kirby lol.
 
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Monster Zero

Junior Member
k_hop said:
Congrats! Maybe we'll rematch further in the brackets. >:)
If I don't lose to Masked Man that is. I don't think I've played him yet but he uses a Little Mac avatar... Makes me nervous. Hopefully my zoning will be on point
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Idk, I wanted to play the campin game with you, but links a frustrating character to fight against, unless this mans little mac is on point you should feel confident.
 
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Monster Zero

Junior Member
Captain Rage Quit 69 said:
I would've fucking loved to see that. Alright, so now I'm set. What did you think of my Ike? I'm trying out potential secondaries to see what fits.

Maybe I should pick up custom Kirby lol.
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He's good, you got a good handle on his absurd range on his attacks. Your recovery is tad predictable, but that's Ike. Custom Kirby is definitely up there, that jump inhale also has invincible frames on it, it's sick. only negative is that it does less damage when you spit someone out.
 
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k_hop

Member
Monster Zero said:
Idk, I wanted to play the campin game with you, but links a frustrating character to fight against, unless this mans little mac is on point you should feel confident.
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haha, I feel like annoying the opponent into taking risks is really the main way Link has to win. :p I wouldn't call him an all-in-all solid character, but he sure is fun
 
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Captain Rage Quit 69

Banned
Monster Zero said:
He's good, you got a good handle on his absurd range on his attacks. Your recovery is tad predictable, but that's Ike. Custom Kirby is definitely up there, that jump inhale also has invincible frames on it, it's sick. only negative is that it does less damage when you spit someone out.
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Sweet, glad to hear that! Yeah, when I recover it's either "AETHER" or "HEY ASSHOLE LISTEN TO ME CHARGE UP MY SIDE B" so I don't have many options. :( I'm feeling him this time, but I'm still learning. What the hell, invincibility frames? Holy shit that's fucked man. No wonder I felt like Melee Roy lol.
 
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Monster Zero

Junior Member
k_hop said:
haha, I feel like annoying the opponent into taking risks is really the main way Link has to win. :p I wouldn't call him an all-in-all solid character, but he sure is fun
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People might play it different in tourneys, but I know if we match up Imma camp my ass off with my long range bacon. You got a solid link game. One that should work more than it doesn't. Makes me wanna pick him up, also had no idea about his god like uair, that shit cripples
 
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k_hop

Member
Monster Zero said:
People might play it different in tourneys, but I know if we match up Imma camp my ass off with my long range bacon. You got a solid link game. One that should work more than it doesn't. Makes me wanna pick him up, also had no idea about his god like uair, that shit cripples
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That Uair stays out for daaaaays, it lasts so long that you can do it before an air dodge and still punish it
 
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Moonlight

Banned
My eyes have been opened to the glory of Robin's neutral air. The gimping potential. The coverage. The spacing opportunities. Soooo good.

Although I keep charging/firing Thoron when I want to go for a retreating Arcfire, lol. I wanna blame part of this on the circle pad but it's something I can correct through timing.

Feels nice to come back to the game after like a week. So satisfying.
 
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Captain Rage Quit 69

Banned
yo some of these customs are whack lmao, everybody's got some mad exploitative tier-boosting custom move on them.

Mario's got Gust Cape, Ike has a good Aether, Doc's recovery doesn't blow, Ness is a goddamn beast, Palutena's got a solution for everything.

Tourneys are gonna be super cray cray with these customs, that's for sure.
 
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emb

Member
Captain Rage Quit 69 said:
yo some of these customs are whack lmao, everybody's got some mad exploitative tier-boosting custom move on them.

Mario's got Gust Cape, Ike has a good Aether, Doc's recovery doesn't blow, Ness is a goddamn beast, Palutena's got a solution for everything.

Tourneys are gonna be super cray cray with these customs, that's for sure.
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Sheik doesn't get anything all that special.

Which is kinda appropriate since she's already good. But :\
 
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Spinosaurus

Member
Charizard has awesome customs

Well, two particularly awesome ones. Dragon Rush is way too good.

I like Wario's fast waft and heavy bike, too.
 
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Azure J

Member
Captain Rage Quit 69 said:
yo some of these customs are whack lmao, everybody's got some mad exploitative tier-boosting custom move on them.

Mario's got Gust Cape, Ike has a good Aether, Doc's recovery doesn't blow, Ness is a goddamn beast, Palutena's got a solution for everything.

Tourneys are gonna be super cray cray with these customs, that's for sure.
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No one ever talks about how Zero Suit Samus' customs are bat shit hilarious. I felt the most amazing sense of "WOW WTF" and "I'm dumb" when I realized that her Shooting Star Kick (Down Special 2 iirc) could be directed based on what direction you hold the slide pad in. With that move alone, you should never need another recovery move. It's also just about the strongest and most thoroughly disrespectful thing to hit someone with bar none. Flipping off the stage all RULES OF NATURE and delivering a high power chasing dive kick that would make Kamen Riders blush? Yes please. :lol

Rosalina's Shooting Star Bit, Marth's Thrusting Slash, Samus' Seeker Missiles, Dense Charge, and Apex Screw are cool too.
 
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Geminosity

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Dear 'For Glory' ike army.

You may have noticed that I've been auto-reticuling you from across the arena every time you use 'Quick Draw'. This is not a coincidence. Please stop. I will not suddenly stop shooting you in the face on second, third, fourth or nth time you attempt it, nor will it miraculously stop getting interrupted by my energy blasts.

Yours Sincerely,
- Gem

alejo0121 said:
I don't know if it was posted before but...

TwitchPlaysPokemon is playing Smash 3DS

http://www.twitch.tv/twitchplayspokemon
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They've got better reactions than some of the 'real' players I've fought on For Glory :p

Captain Rage Quit 69 said:
yo some of these customs are whack lmao, everybody's got some mad exploitative tier-boosting custom move on them.

Mario's got Gust Cape, Ike has a good Aether, Doc's recovery doesn't blow, Ness is a goddamn beast, Palutena's got a solution for everything.

Tourneys are gonna be super cray cray with these customs, that's for sure.
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Palutena is a completely different creature with her customs. I almost wonder if they didn't give her such dull defaults just to make people seek out the customs :p
 
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Azure J

Member
Gem you need to teach me how to Palu in a PM. I still don't know how that character should work (or maybe I'm just too used to characters I can go in with while Palu demands that you control the entire field and go in on very specific situations).
 
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Geminosity

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Azure J said:
Gem you need to teach me how to Palu in a PM. I still don't know how that character should work (or maybe I'm just too used to characters I can go in with while Palu demands that you control the entire field and go in on very specific situations).
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Well, I like to give tips in the forums because it means we can all share (and if someone is aware I'm incorrect on something then they can also help me out XD )

My general playstyle with her is as follows:
a) if they give you any distance and they're not super fast, auto-reticule them to make them regret it. Until you've got their patterns down you want them to approach you, rather than the other way around. If they start jumping, let them and just fire the auto-reticule later so they land on it. It's all free percentages and it'll piss them off, hopefully increasing the chances of them being brash and making mistakes when they do come at you :3 Don't worry if they have a reflector: auto-reticule is so terrible it doesn't even reflect back at a decent angle, so it won't hit you unless you're point-blank XD

b) if they have a ranged attack spam reflect to make them come closer or, if they're really silly, hurt themselves with their own projectiles. Mix it up from time to time with the occasional auto-reticule so they know they can't just sit there too. If they're too close for you to confidentally use your reflect, a well spaced running attack can eat projectiles: you don't even have to hit your opponent with the attack, just make sure you hit the projectile :p

c) when people do try to get in, you can answer pretty much anything they'll do depending on what they try. If they attempt a running attack your jab can surprisingly beat a good few of them (though not all), your own running attack pulled off quickly will beat almost literally anything or, if your spacing/timing are good and your opponent doesn't dodge or shield much, you can actually smack them with your forward or up smashes. If they jump at you, then you've got a whole bunch of toys. You can jump up and aerial them yourself or you can use up tilt or up smash depending on their approach angle and your confidence with said moves :3
If you think they'll fake you out by rolling past you then just down smash, it's not too hard to time it so it'll whack them just as the invincibility frames wear out. Or you can roll back too and jab them :p

d) Unless your opponent is shield/dodge happy you can predict and punish just about anything they do with your running attack. If I had a % on where most of my damage and KOs come from, it'd probably be this attack. As I mentioned earlier, it beats everything else in the game clean out with only some incredibly specific and rare exceptions. My second most used attack is her back-air which has pretty much all the same qualities as her running attack but is safer :p For fun, if you have someone who shields and grabs whenever you do your running attack, you can really mess with them by switching to using the reflect at point blank range. The shield on her arm has a hitbox on it, putting them in hitstun and then the reflect field will push them back before they can recover. I've not actually seen this technique used by anyone else yet but I've had great fun using this where applicable.This obviously doesn't work on people with tether throws though :p

e) When you want to be aggressive yourself your repertoire is relatively slim but effective. Again, your running attack will leave you open if dodged/shielded so don't go crazy with it, but if your opponent is like a lot of people who try to hit you when you approach then you'll just plough straight through their attack and smack them skywards. A slightly safer approach is well spaced forward airs (hold back after the forward air comes out to pull yourself out of grab/jab retaliation range when you land) and if you know they're just going to shield you can obviously just grab them. Grabbing with Palutena is generally a good idea as down throws can lead to a bunch of options that we've mentioned in the thread before (dash after them and jump/short-hop into an aerial. Up air kills at about 120% unless they're super heavy, while forward air should reach most people if they pull away, neutral air racks up a whole bunch of percent if they get caught in it :3 )
On the rare occasion you have someone who predictably spot-dodges all your approaches, your tilts stay out for a long time so they can help punish those, but they'll leave you wide open if your opponent chooses to dodge roll instead.

f) edgeguarding with Palu basically boils down to getting spikes off her down-air if the opportunity presents itself, aerials, up-smash or up-tilt if they try to recover from above, or, if they go for the ledge and you're sharp enough, you can edge-steal and then back air fthem when they get popped off for a KO if their % is high enough.
Another possibility is windbox shenanigans :p
I've been using the reflector and her forward-smash's windboxes to catch some people off-guard as they come for the edge, blowing/pushing them away from the latch-on hotspot and causing them to fall to their doom or use up more of their recovery options to get back again (windboxes don't count as a hit so they don't get their jumps/up-b usage reset :3 )

g) If your opponent is standing at the edge and isn't on the ball you can sometimes even get a KO on them just by running up and reflecting them in the face. I've caught some people so off-guard with this that they've failed to react in time to recover. Don't expect it to work TOO often though, but it'll scare the heck out of a lot of the people it doesn't kill. Keep in mind that shielding doesn't stop windboxes so they'll have to dodge or hit you first with something better to avoid being shoved off the edge :p Also, if someone gets hit by auto-reticule at the edge it'll often shove them off too, inducing some minor panic (though I've never been lucky enough for anyone not to recover from this in time XD )

That's some general pointers though. It's a bit scatter-brained but lemme know if any of that helps or if you feel like there's specific aspects of Palutena I might be able to advise on that you're unsure on :3
 
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Hello.

Banned
Does anyone know the exact amount of Custom Moves and Equipment pieces there are? I want to know so I can complete this god-forsaken challenge.
 
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Snacks the sober sea lion

Member
This game is killing me. I can't believe how fast the recovery time on so many characters' attacks is, and I keep trying to punish them and getting hit for it. Shit like Little Mac's side smash having super armor is particularly infuriating, because I'm used to just knocking people out of their smash attacks when they get zealous with their charging.
 
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EmCeeGramr

Member
lucina in the sky with dairmonds would be a good thread title even if it's the fair that keeps killing my mac

well, that's my story, good bye
 
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Geminosity

Member
Pancakes said:
Bookmarked for future reference. Auto reticule seems more useful than I initially thought.
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I'm not auto-reticule's biggest fan, but I'm often amused how many other projectiles it'll stop or even beat due to being multiple shots. Robin literally has no ranged answer to it outside of a fully charged thunder. Anything less collides with auto-reticule's shots... that said, it's hard for robin to even get that full charge when you're constantly interrupting the build-up with even more reticule spam :3
 
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